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The MacBook Pro 17 inch isn't coming back is it?
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Not everyone. I probably would get over toting something the size of a TRS-80 200 if it was insanely powerful and was really a "pro" machine. The cMBP's are thin enough already...
There are 2 groups nowadays, the consumers, who "want" thin and light, or the prosumers, who want power and more value for their $$. The consumers don't know what they want, they know what they are being fed though... IMO.
Surely though, computers are getting faster I just wish apple obsessed less over thin and light and started obsessing over features and power.
Amen!
Absolutely agreed. Especially with that cMBPs are thin enough, they just need to become even more powerful and actually LIVE UP TO the Pro title. If you pay premium price and not get what you actually bought into is a sham, paying over premium and 'not' getting dGPU is seriously illegal !
Absolutely agreed. Especially with that cMBPs are thin enough, they just need to become even more powerful and actually LIVE UP TO the Pro title. If you pay premium price and not get what you actually bought into is a sham, paying over premium and 'not' getting dGPU is seriously illegal !
Will MBP 17" Ever Return?
I had been a big fan of MBP 17": about the same spec as iMac yet more portable then iMac, has bigger screen then other Apple laptop models, and etc. I liked the idea of having portable and powerful workstation.
Now that Apple has discontinued 17" models, will 17"s ever return?
If it won't (return), I might as well simply go back to good old iMac for my next workstation.
I had been a big fan of MBP 17": about the same spec as iMac yet more portable then iMac, has bigger screen then other Apple laptop models, and etc. I liked the idea of having portable and powerful workstation.
Now that Apple has discontinued 17" models, will 17"s ever return?
If it won't (return), I might as well simply go back to good old iMac for my next workstation.
I just love large and portable, top of the line machines period. The fifteen inch is cute and useful but it doesn't suit my status of what the apex used to be set by this company with the introduction of the 17" at all. Now that they no longer have that standard, I feel they are saying 15" will do and everyone will have to lower their standards. I wont lower my standards I always expect the best of the best and only 17" will do for a powerful portable for me.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I <3 17"
When I want something small, I pick up my ipad.
I got one of the last refurb 17" MBPs they had. Top specs. It wasn't cheap. And I've pimped it about as much as possible. I use this machine very intensively for R&D / Software Development for my actual real-world job. I use it with external monitors. I use it in the field and I use it at home. I'd buy a 19" if they made one. It's small for what it has to offer. I'm so sad they killed this line and hope they will begin making something similar down the road. I live on this machine and it takes great care of me.
I have a meaty Ubuntu VM and Win7 Boot Camp-based VM live along-side OSX all the time and I run it on stripe RAIDed 750GB drives. This machine is outstanding. I hope it's not the last of its kind.
When I want something small, I pick up my ipad.
I got one of the last refurb 17" MBPs they had. Top specs. It wasn't cheap. And I've pimped it about as much as possible. I use this machine very intensively for R&D / Software Development for my actual real-world job. I use it with external monitors. I use it in the field and I use it at home. I'd buy a 19" if they made one. It's small for what it has to offer. I'm so sad they killed this line and hope they will begin making something similar down the road. I live on this machine and it takes great care of me.
I have a meaty Ubuntu VM and Win7 Boot Camp-based VM live along-side OSX all the time and I run it on stripe RAIDed 750GB drives. This machine is outstanding. I hope it's not the last of its kind.
I also <3 17!!
My 2010 MBP17 workhorse was stolen on the weekend and I find myself in the unenviable position of having to replace it with someone else's used, 2-year-old computer.
It's either that or get a 15" Retina. Which scares me a tiny bit less now that the SSDs are user upgradable, at least...
Are there any former 17" owners out there who can chime in with regards to the Retina resolution vs. the screen real estate of our beloved MacBook Pro 'Brontosaurus'? I'm really looking for a desktop replacement--not planning to get an external monitor.
My 2010 MBP17 workhorse was stolen on the weekend and I find myself in the unenviable position of having to replace it with someone else's used, 2-year-old computer.
It's either that or get a 15" Retina. Which scares me a tiny bit less now that the SSDs are user upgradable, at least...
Are there any former 17" owners out there who can chime in with regards to the Retina resolution vs. the screen real estate of our beloved MacBook Pro 'Brontosaurus'? I'm really looking for a desktop replacement--not planning to get an external monitor.
woah!
I love this comment a lot, no sarcasm, this is what I been trying to tell them! Always have it on hand as a build to order ONLY. That makes beautiful and perfect BIG business sense, people need to stop thinking small failed business sense around here.
Good on you thank you for contributing and not just following the pack!
I love this comment a lot, no sarcasm, this is what I been trying to tell them! Always have it on hand as a build to order ONLY. That makes beautiful and perfect BIG business sense, people need to stop thinking small failed business sense around here.
Good on you thank you for contributing and not just following the pack!
sold my cmbp 15 and now just sticking with the 15 rmbp and i wish they would put a dedicated gpu in the 13 and yeh id prolly throw the 17 inch out a moving car window
Thanks for pointing out some of your disregard for the environment, yah, ummm, don't bother recycling them, just toss them into the trash so that village kids in China can dig through your toxic trash. Nice. I like this one, toss it out a moving car window? That is one of the most ghetto statements ever, is that in your next hiphopity track or?
It does not matter what you or I wish Apple would do, or what we call 'Pro' or 'Prosumer' or whatever other dumb tags there are. Makes no odds at all.
Its just economics. Apple exists to make money. More specifically the main responsibility of the Apple board is to make money for its shareholders. If Apple makes more money by making and selling smaller laptops, iPads or whatever then that's what they will do. If the 17" was not selling enough, it got dropped. Get over it already.
Its just economics. Apple exists to make money. More specifically the main responsibility of the Apple board is to make money for its shareholders. If Apple makes more money by making and selling smaller laptops, iPads or whatever then that's what they will do. If the 17" was not selling enough, it got dropped. Get over it already.
Of course he is MR has more than its share of experts. These experts are so good they needn't work more than an hour or two a day. Following closely are people with advanced degrees in CS. Finally every TV show and feature movie was cut by someone here on MR. W
I feel somewhat odd posting on these threads about my love about the 17", having never owned one, and only using one maybe twice in my life for a grand total of about an hour... 
Say again? How does a 15" screen offer more screen real
estate than a 17" screen? I'm assuming size is measured
diagonally in inches.
Screen estate is not the size of the screen, is the amount of (usable and recognisable) content you can fit on it. The 15" rMBP has a higher resolution, so it can fit more content
dual quad core 3.0Ghz i7 expandable to 64Gb 2000Mhz ram with 2 drive bays like the old 17" thank you very much. Non Retina old res is fine ... no need to heaps of pixels and stuff so tiny it's hard to read! I like to do serious WORK and so do many mobile pros! just put cheap 500Mb HDs in it thanks apple then I will put 2 x 1Tb Sammy SSDs in a RAID thanks!
Screen estate is not the size of the screen, is the amount of (usable and recognisable) content you can fit on it. The 15" rMBP has a higher resolution, so it can fit more content
Screen estate is not just about resolution. It's the size + resolution. 15" can fit more content than 17" could but it's less comfortable exactly because it can fit _more content_ on a _smaller screen_. 17" with the same resolution as 15" would be a better option and more "usable and recognizable".
The 17" display is only 3cm larger (width and height wise) than the 15" one (36.4cmx22.7 vs 33.07cmx20.6). That is around 10% in image size per dimension. I am really not sure whether such minor size difference will already result in major discomfort and inability to make out details (provided healthy eyesight). The 17" does exhibit more spatial artefacts (aliasing) however. So no, sorry, I am not buying this 'bigger is better' argument. 1920x1200 might be small on a 15", but so it is on 17". If you are comfortable with the 17" screen, going to 15" should take only a brief period of accommodation.
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