The MacRumors Show: Can iPhone 15 Make the iPhone Exciting Again? ft. Jon Rettinger

[JGIGS]

The point is dynamic island is a perceived design change, and it is, in the eyes of the public. The 14 looked exactly like the 13. Same notch, same design. The 15 looks like the 14 Pro and people will see that. Nothing to do with how functional it is.

Not really arguing it being a design change. I just don't think the average iphone user is going to run out and buy a new iphone just for that design change. Apple will sell a lot of iphones regardless but I don't see DI driving much of those buying decisions. But like I said I could be wrong, but it certainly isn't swaying me and I'm on a Macrumors forum . I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.

 

[3Rock]

I have the iPhone 12 Pro and for a brief nanosecond, I owned the iPhone 13 and the iPhone 14 pro and sent them back and scratched my head, what in the world did I purchase these briefly for? There is absolutely nothing that was worth the upgrade for me. Now the iPhone 15 Pro, I thought, maybe this would be it, but the action button doesn’t excite me, the dynamic island is worthless to me, and the notch is an eye sore. Care less about USB-C or the slightly better camera. So what would be for me that would be an excitable upgrade and it came up to an Apple foldable and nothing more.

This next round, I’m going to get the Apple Watch Ultra-2 which is more useful for me than anything. It has more battery life than the iPhone, it has cellular and a fairly good sound quality. It has everything I need except the camera and I don’t use my camera on my iPhone that much. So I’ll keep my iPhone 12 Pro another year or two if I can. Hope by then Apple will come out with a foldable.

 

[cutlub]

Are consumers excited about foldables? Do the sales back this up?

 

[paulvee]

The only thing to make the iPhone exciting is a folding display, but given the iffy quality of folding displays even now...

I do think iPhone 16 could go to a new design that pinches a lot of what the Fairphone pioneered, though, especially with the potentially occasional user replacement of batteries.

Most don’t want a folding phone

 

[SactoGuy18]

Most don’t want a folding phone

With good reason: the quality of the "fold" on a folding display. They're still some ways from permanently fixing that problem.

 

[sjsharksfan12]

I enjoyed the conversation. I'm giving some thought of going from the 14+ to the 15 Pro because of the features and basically getting what I missed last year. It may not be exciting, but there are some things to get excited about. I don't know what the fascination is with the fold phones. I tried one out (Pixel) and you can see the crease of the fold when it's open. Not sure I really want to deal with that since it seemed to be a distraction.

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

Can iPhone 15 make the iPhone exciting again.

Apple: iPhone 15 Pro is available in Grey, Greyer, Greyish and Silver.

 

[SFjohn]

Apple will squeeze as much as profit out of the iPhone that they can before they introduce a foldable. Profitability supersedes innovation.

If you enjoy looking at creases in people’s rear end (which is kind of great actually), then a foldable phone is for you! 😉

 

[GuruZac]

Apple will squeeze as much as profit out of the iPhone that they can before they introduce a foldable. Profitability supersedes innovation.

Profitability also pays for innovation. Outside of zoom, which part of the iPhone hardware is lacking? A pen like the S23 Ultra? Nothing else I’m aware of.

 

[Warped9]

If you’re upgrading every year or every two years you will likely not see much if any real difference between your old and new phone. The upgrades are largely incremental at this point. Only a radical redesign/reinvention could make cellphones exciting again. And that doesn’t look to be even rumoured presently.

Changing phones every four or so years you might see a more distinct difference. I’ve just gone from an 8+ to a 14. The most notable difference has been how the 14 is smaller and feels distinctly lighter than my old phone. And I really liked my old phone. Performance wise I don’t think I’m noticing any real difference. The 14’s screen seems a bit sharper and a bit more vivid, but not enough to blow me away. My 8+ still had 84% battery health so there was no real detriment in charging and holding its charge—I was still charging every two or sometimes three days. The 14 is not really doing much better than that.

For those crying for a redesign—redesign how? It’s a flat rectangle with or without rounded corners and edges. It’s already in a mature and its most minimalist form it could be save for getting thinner.

 

[3Rock]

Are consumers excited about foldables? Do the sales back this up?

Most don’t want a folding phone

I would because now I can replace my iPhone and iPad mini, and have it all in one.👍 actually, you can have both the foldable and non-foldable to please both sides.

 

[anthogag]

Wow, today’s podcast is about switching to android. Is there any discussion more boring? I had to stop 1/2-way because it was so dull.

You people have no imagination for the future of iPhone.

 

[einsteinbqat]

Smartphones are a mature market nowadays. What more can Apple add to the iPhone. I'd add TouchID back, but that doesn't change the iPhone much.

On an unrelated note, @Hartley can read me bedtime stories! Hahaha! 😂🤣 Love the voice! 😇❤️

 

[Donoban]

Click bait.

Hey I'm Dan - tell me what you think in the comments!

 

[Donoban]

Wow, today’s podcast is about switching to android. Is there any discussion more boring? I had to stop 1/2-way because it was so dull.

You people have no imagination for the future of iPhone.

It's click bait. Wasn't supposed to be any content. Kudos to you for getting half way through it.

 

[bobcomer]

For those crying for a redesign—redesign how? It’s a flat rectangle with or without rounded corners and edges. It’s already in a mature and its most minimalist form it could be save for getting thinner.

Make it foldable so i can have a bigger screen. Make it much lighter. Make it fit in my pocket better. Get rid of the camera bump. Give us back touch ID. Get rid of the glass back, all that does is make it heavier, more breakable, and slippery as heck. All those would be exciting to me. Give me a couple of those and I wont have any trouble purchasing it at a couple hundred more. (the more things, the more I'd pay)

 

[Warped9]

Make it foldable so i can have a bigger screen. Make it much lighter. Make it fit in my pocket better. Get rid of the camera bump. Give us back touch ID. Get rid of the glass back, all that does is make it heavier, more breakable, and slippery as heck. All those would be exciting to me. Give me a couple of those and I wont have any trouble purchasing it at a couple hundred more. (the more things, the more I'd pay)

None of which would make it more “exciting” to the mass market. Except for the foldable element the rest is just tweaking the existing form.

And making it foldable would actually add something needing to be fiddled with rather than the quick to use/access form smartphones currently have.

 

[cutlub]

Make it foldable so i can have a bigger screen. Make it much lighter. Make it fit in my pocket better. Get rid of the camera bump. Give us back touch ID. Get rid of the glass back, all that does is make it heavier, more breakable, and slippery as heck. All those would be exciting to me. Give me a couple of those and I wont have any trouble purchasing it at a couple hundred more. (the more things, the more I'd pay) all

I’d like all of these. Except the fold.

 

[Expos of 1969]

I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't get excited about iPhones anymore.
Every year, Apple brings meaningful refinements, features, and technologies to the already industry-leading iPhone experience.

Surely you jest....

 

[O.N.Y.X]

The excitement left the smart phone segment many years ago.

It pretty much left with Steve Jobs…

 

[bobcomer]

None of which would make it more “exciting” to the mass market.

So you say.

Except for the foldable element the rest is just tweaking the existing form.

In a very different way than it has been in a very long time.

And making it foldable would actually add something needing to be fiddled with rather than the quick to use/access form smartphones currently have.

?? That doesn't make sense. You can use the phone with just the outer screen, no fiddling necessary unless you want to have the bigger screen for what you are doing.

 

[Minghold]

The only thing that will make phones exciting again is to restore all the features that manufacturers have removed. MicroSSD expansion ports, speaker-jacks, USB tethering, independent repair replacement parts, etc.

 

[icolove]

There's excitement in the smartphone space? Maybe some of the flip/fold advancements.... but other than that.....

We're at a point where new smartphones are as exciting as new laptops. They're just utilitarian now and advancements will be incremental.

 

[The Game 161]

Pericope lens at last is exciting to me.

 

[Mark.g4]

iPhone represents the latest innovative product regarding smartphones, until the competitors creates something different and better, the iphone will remain for me the best device on the market.