That's not even a little bit of an issue with the full size foldables and the flips.
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That's not even a little bit of an issue with the full size foldables and the flips.
"Different" already exists in both software and form factor.
by different I don't mean that they have two screens, a folding screen or a 10000x camera... that's just an evolution of the technique.
The last real revolution in the smartphone world dates back to 2007.
The South Korean tech giant's display manufacturing arm is reportedly leveraging its expertise in foldable display manufacturing to elevate the technology to Apple's standards. Reaching this goal requires improving foldable displays in two ways: crease visibility and panel durability.
The slide above, captured at SID Review Workshop, suggests that Samsung's foldable displays seemingly meet expectations in terms of tensile stress (folding cracks), comprehensive stress (buckling when folding in), and slimness & flexibility (folding torque). Baek Seung-in explained that the company has been working hard for several years to remove the crease on foldable screens completely, but it is hard to achieve.
Samsung could be improving foldable display tech for Apple
Samsung confirms it is trying to improve foldable display technology for Apple, the latter of which might be working on a foldable MacBook.
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Help me, 3d beam technology, you’re my only hope
I wondered that, too. I don’t know what the actual numbers are but Samsung seems committed to foldables and is supposedly working on bringing more affordable ones to market in the future.
Going from observation of my husband’s ownership experience of the Samsung Fold 3 and my friends on this forum’s various experiences with more recent models, I can say they are a lot of fun to play around with and the larger ones provide some practical utility for many users.
Ultimately what I see as the main complaint so far is that they’re so much more expensive than slab phones, but to keep the costs manageable, the cameras included in them are not the same as the ones in the flagship slab models. And not all apps have been optimized to take advantage of the format. There’s still a lot of unfulfilled potential.
The Flip models so far have suffered from weak battery life, especially compared to traditional models of comparable price.
I’m interested in foldables, but the bang for the buck is just not there for me, personally, and I also have reservations about the durability for my lifestyle. I spend a lot of time around water and sand. We’re a beach oriented family. I’m going to want my durable slab phone for that. I’ve seen some durability tests for more recent Samsung flip phones that are quite impressive, but I still don’t trust my own personal luck that far.
I’m keeping my eyes on them but I’m thinking I won’t jump in for another couple of generations. For one to become my primary device the cameras have to be great and the battery life has to get me through the day of hard use. In other words it has to match what I get out of my slab phones. I’m not willing to compromise on that. Until then, it would be just a fun toy to me and frankly the cost is too high for that kind of playing around.
I still remember Jon going on CNBC with Colin Ferguson ten years ago and completely bashing Apple over “lack of innovation”. Basically saying the company was doomed and dying
Anyone who listened to him lost out on an 8X rise in $AAPL stock
And here he is with more. “The iPhone X was last innovated iPhone”
Anyone who listened to him lost out on an 8X rise in $AAPL stock
And here he is with more. “The iPhone X was last innovated iPhone”
I will save you the trouble: no. It can not.
iPhones and smartphones in general have become the landlines of old. Were people excited back in the day when that new landline came out with speed dial? No. It was new. It was cool. But it was just a phone.
We need a new product that changes everything before excitement returns.
iPhones and smartphones in general have become the landlines of old. Were people excited back in the day when that new landline came out with speed dial? No. It was new. It was cool. But it was just a phone.
We need a new product that changes everything before excitement returns.
The Flip5 ($999) was cheaper than my 14Pro, and with a trade in of a flip4
, it was a LOT cheaper. ($99)
The flip4 and now flip5 was about the same battery life as my 14 Pro. 1 waking day only. Light day they're both about 50% at the end of the day, and less if highly used. I've only seen 5% with my 14 Pro though.
While the flips are rugged enough for my usage, I agree, I don't think I'd want to use them on the beach. I am *not* a beach person though, it's way to hot outside for me where I live.
I doubt there will be a problem with them by then.
One thing I really like about the flip is the main screen is protected when closed, so no scratches from being in my pocket, unlike my iPhones, and I never have a problem fitting it into my pocket and having it in danger of falling out.
I’d like
Perhaps there's a large segment out there who want a foldable iPhone. An iPhablet with a visible crease in the display just doesn't seem very Apple-y. I'm they'd charge A LOT more than $1700, at which point it might be cheaper to buy a tablet and phone separately.
Steve Jobs's official biographer, Walter Isaacson, said, “In my book, Steve says how Tim Cook can do everything, and then he looked at me and said, ‘Tim’s not a product person.’” (Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/08/ste...was-not-a-product-person-walter-isaacson.html) With that in mind, is it any surprise that the iPhone 12, 13 and 14 have practically the same design, and we'll probably see more of the same with the upcoming iPhone 15?
And the legions of Apple fanboys on this site will love it because they are convinced that what makes a product good is not its innovativeness and functionality, but rather how much money it makes for Apple. To those fanboys, if Tim Cook says Apple made record profits, then the products must be good.
And the legions of Apple fanboys on this site will love it because they are convinced that what makes a product good is not its innovativeness and functionality, but rather how much money it makes for Apple. To those fanboys, if Tim Cook says Apple made record profits, then the products must be good.
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A major redesign would mean more money spent on research and development, and thus a little less profits for Apple. Tim Cook doesn't prioritize innovation because he cares more about maximizing profits for himself and his beloved shareholders.
Yeesh! My first iPhone was a 4, and to be damned honest my current 14 is a very recognizable evolution of that early iPhone. Yes, the 14 has superior capabilities, but its form is very similar overall to my 4.
The last genuine redesign in cellphones was when they went from flip phones to the current mini tablet smartphone design.
A foldable design would simply be integrating today’s form with yesterday’s flip form. That doesn’t strike me as revolutionary.
The last genuine redesign in cellphones was when they went from flip phones to the current mini tablet smartphone design.
A foldable design would simply be integrating today’s form with yesterday’s flip form. That doesn’t strike me as revolutionary.
Oh that’s not bad price on the flips. The Folds are expensive. Samsung usually gives great trade in deals.
Bit bitter but I can't help but feel some sort of pity for these people who get excited over such sort of tech, especially with a company that's all about incremental upgrades and milking the **** out of the cow . Are we cows who like to be milked so much that we get excitement for it ? Finding centers of interests is extremely important but for said center to be a company whose soil purpose is to keep people in their garden whilst increasing the price of entrance.....idk
Fully and completely agree here! And yet, we still see prices INCREASE. It is absurd. I'll stick to my Xs until it breaks.
Sure everyone doesn't like the price that goes up, of course, but we have to make some reflections.
The first iPhones cost less than half of current iPhones, but they were little more than an iPod and after the third update they were practically so slow to use that you had to throw them away.
Today smartphone have processors like those of a computer, memories as fast as a computer, fantastic cameras that literally allow you to leave your reflex or video camera at home, a high definition music player, a beautiful high definition screen, but above all today the smartphone is the center of people's lives: home banking, sports, multimedia, social networks, work.
Continue to receive updates even for 8 years and are usable even after 10 years.
Today an iPhone 6s is very usable and has received security patches.
Iphone 3g after the third OS update you could throw it out the window and had to buy a new one.
Do they cost more?
Yes, but they offer more.
From this point of view, it is not true that the new iPhones cost more.
How are the alternatives?
Moving to the android world, the situation is even worse:
have had a higher percentage increase in price compared to iphone in the last two years, they have removed components from the packaging and often have downgraded the technical specifications, so much so that many "influencers" indicated as best buy, devices from the previous year, instead of the current ones and it is a situation that has never occurred before.
what happened in 2021? smartphone with downgrade on the technical sheet and price increase.
a little better in 2022.
The first iPhones cost less than half of current iPhones, but they were little more than an iPod and after the third update they were practically so slow to use that you had to throw them away.
Today smartphone have processors like those of a computer, memories as fast as a computer, fantastic cameras that literally allow you to leave your reflex or video camera at home, a high definition music player, a beautiful high definition screen, but above all today the smartphone is the center of people's lives: home banking, sports, multimedia, social networks, work.
Continue to receive updates even for 8 years and are usable even after 10 years.
Today an iPhone 6s is very usable and has received security patches.
Iphone 3g after the third OS update you could throw it out the window and had to buy a new one.
Do they cost more?
Yes, but they offer more.
From this point of view, it is not true that the new iPhones cost more.
How are the alternatives?
Moving to the android world, the situation is even worse:
have had a higher percentage increase in price compared to iphone in the last two years, they have removed components from the packaging and often have downgraded the technical specifications, so much so that many "influencers" indicated as best buy, devices from the previous year, instead of the current ones and it is a situation that has never occurred before.
what happened in 2021? smartphone with downgrade on the technical sheet and price increase.
a little better in 2022.
Foldable? Who cares? I want a CYLINDRICAL phone that feels like a 🍆 in my hand(s).
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Well, the UI is poor and hardly different than Android. The screens aren’t better and the notch and round corners are stupid.
Just set up a Moto G Power for my mother-in-law. Somehow it has face ID and fingerprint in the home button and 128GB of memory and 2 cameras and 120Hz screen and a headphone jack and 5G uw and USB C for $250… It’s not exciting, but it’s also not a ripoff.
Just set up a Moto G Power for my mother-in-law. Somehow it has face ID and fingerprint in the home button and 128GB of memory and 2 cameras and 120Hz screen and a headphone jack and 5G uw and USB C for $250… It’s not exciting, but it’s also not a ripoff.
I just got a 12Pro refurb and it is a very good phone. I don’t see much difference in performance other than screen refresh over the mini 13 I bought and returned. The 12Pro is mini enough by today’s phone standards.
But the fact $700+ refurbed is hard to swallow…