I am going to wait until they offer the Apple Life Pod. Get in and spend your whole life in there.
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The MacRumors Show: Giving Vision Pro Another Chance
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Real life isn’t that great these days lol if the oasis from ready player one existed, I would be in it more than I’d be in the real world
Man, I dont get the hate here. I went to the Apple Store and tried out the AVP on a whim. I was blown away. The crispness of the screen, the ease of use the video. It is sooooooo much better than a quest. We have 2 of those and while fun the AVP is unbelievable. So I sought out a used AVP on eBay for $2000. It also is the 1 TB version. I use it at work daily, I am a videographer/photographer. It is AMAZING for work. With AirPods Pro you are in your own little world, watching tv off to the side and working on your photos or videos jumping into safari for different things... you get a text and jump over to that then. IT IS AMAZING! If you haven't really tried it stop at an Apple Store and try it out. you will be amazed too. I love it. And taking it home you can stream your PS5 to it, watch moves, record or watch spacial videos you take with your iPhone.... They need to get the price down to $2000 or less to get people in the space. I agree on that... but it is so wonderful!!!! Please just try it out!
Could not disagree more. Plenty of times when a product wasn’t quite what I wanted so I returned it and waited until it became better. Good enough for me.
The very first iPhone in 2007 is an example. Loved it. Returned it because of slow internet, dropped calls on AT&T and no mms messaging or App Store. Super basic. But the foundation was there. Jumped back in iPhone 3GS when things improved.
Just because someone doesn’t like the initial product, doesn’t mean it can’t improve enough to finally fit their needs
You’re of course right, but in this context, since only the chip and the head strap have been updated, it’s essentially the same product. The issues that applied to the first iteration still apply almost entirely to this version as well.
I know someone at work that tried the first Vision Pro on release and complained about different things that are totally fixed now. He got the new m5 with the new head strap and is happy with it now. He’s an account manager and i routinely walk in on him using it and we’ve had conversations about his issues with it a year ago.
Not only the comfort angle, but vision os has grown so much in the past year and a half its crazy. More content, more apps, vision os has fixed usability isssues like being able to unlock and use your iPhone without issue while wearing it as well as call handoff. Guest mode with saved setups. Mac virtual display ultra wide. New gestures that make things easier.
This is the first gen in a long line of products that will grow over time. Even those in the vision product group that worked on it said they thought vision wouldn’t hit its stride until gen 4.
If your only issue a year ago was “it’s expensive”, yeah? Not totally fixed? Although the used market is great for it right now and people are buying them up used for 1500-2000 which i consider more than worth it. We got a few more years before the vision air brings it mainstream
I think mainstream is a stretch. A majority of people not using them have rejected the entire genre because they don’t want isolation and goggles. That won’t be fixed.
A majority of users are Windows users. Until that’s fixed it can’t go mainstream, same issue with iPod years ago.
It’s niche for some plainly obvious reasons. The tech to have it be truly good is expensive. The tech to make it small enough for the everyday person to even want to use it doesn’t even exist yet. Right now it’s related mostly to nerds like me and people that want to try new things.
the big question is does a future product exist that most people would actually WANT to put on. I think the answer is yes. Immersive sports are a huge draw. Once that becomes more prevalent, its going to feel antiquated to watch it on a flat screen at home.
AVP has only been out for a year and a half and the progress its made is already impressive. I’ve already experienced people going from the first version at launch saying “it’s really cool but not for me at this point” to seeing those very same people actually buying it. My boss who is an account manager at my company said the dual knit strap and mac virtual display in ultra wide was his “okay i gotta get this now” moment. As updates come, the use cases expand to more and more people. Don’t think in terms of months or a couple years. Think 10 years.
If they could get these to the cost of a high end iPhone, make the used market flooded with great devices as well and get the weight and size to that of a pair of small barely there goggles? That right there is half the battle. I could imagine a future where people casually watch things on their tv, but instead of going to the movies both put on their apple vision airs and experience a movie together in a seamless experience that is as mind blowing as going to an actual theater. Or when they get home (like i already do) put on their vision airs and just vibe in a more immersive experience. I used to come home and chill on my iPad after work. Now it’s my Vision Pro.
I don’t think this is a product category that HAS to remain niche forever. The technology just hasn’t been there to make it so people want to use it. I think it’ll get there. But it’s going to be a slow journey. Just like the first iPhone years where every new article was about an “iPhone killer”, people will talk about the vision as a dead product. Then gen 4 or 5 it will break out more and finally be ready for the everyday person that’s not a tech nerd. If 50 years from now we are still using slabs we hold in our hands called iPhones and we haven’t progressed technologically beyond that, that’s just sad man.
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I think if this is what launched originally there would be far more praise even with the high price. The weight of new band is so much better, better battery life, 120hz, far more content now and immersive sports is coming. Virtual Mac display wasn’t there on launch which I find really useful. Stuff like this make a big difference for user experience
I think glasses with displays is a few years off but if that runs vision OS it will be a big success
I think glasses with displays is a few years off but if that runs vision OS it will be a big success
Thats the marketing answer, but it just isn’t reality. People don’t want to watch sports by themselves. The “immersive” aspect is being with people, whether at a stadium or a bar and not only does this not replicate that, it excludes that.
lol check in with me in 10 years. We’ll see i guess? I remember hearing people don’t wear watches anymore too. Then Apple Watch came. I remember hearing AirPods was a stupid idea “nobody wants another thing to charge and lose. Wired is fine”. Yet here we are. Thank god technological progress doesn’t stop because people can’t envision a future with something different.
Apple watch had very little to do with that. Apple jumped on the bandwagon but they were seriously late to the party (and still lag on features today). Watches have a clear use-case and aren’t intrusive, AVP doesnt and is.
Exactly. AVP has no use case. Nor any products that will be spawned from technologies developed from it. Who needs a heads up display that can show turn by turn directions IN your vision? People love pulling out phones. Who needs the ability to have a 100inch monitor anywhere you go? People love taking 100 inch tvs with them everywhere they go. Ya know what? It’s easier to spend a few thousand dollars on those lakers tickets and a plane and motel for the weekend than sit at home in your Vision Pro with a watch party. Immersive learning where you can take apart an engine piece by piece? Nah. Who needs that? A flat book is better.
I myself get to work with a horse and only use sun dials to tell time
i certainly do. i never watch sports with others anymore. everybody is different and also not everybody likes same sport or is able to watch together anymore. certainly not as you get older.
i was thinking about getting a tri fold for a 10 inch display in my pocket but decided on vision pro instead. why? well cost will be similar and on vision pro i can have a 200 inch display and use multple windows at once and still use same apps i can use on a foldable. if i'm spending basically same level of cash i would rather buy something thats basically better at everything for the same price
If those things are spawned it’s not from AVP, loads of augmented reality came before it like the Hololens. There are industrial use cases, as Microsoft discovered.
Realistically though, things like turn by turn are just as convenient on the wrist and normal people neither need or want a 100” screen everywhere they go. Those things are mutually exclusive by the way, you can either have convenient augmented glasses or a usable 100” screen. One device cannot do both well.
I mean yeah right? I can’t even believe they invented something as stupid as the iPhone when Mapquest existed. It’s just as useful on a sheet of paper i can look down at. Or a tom tom for the car for directions. Just get a tom tom and have a house rotary phone and you’re good to go. Who NEEDS a phone with them 24/7? I don’t think that’ll catch on
Maps on phones had been a thing for at least a decade before iphone. You’re still thinking tech for the sake of technis always good. Sometimes it just isn’t. AVP is intrusive no matter how you look at it. Even small and light versions get rejected hard by society, Google found this out with the glasshole phenomenon, and Meta are about to demonstrate that again with theirs.
Don’t tell me. Tell Tim Cook! They’re making a big mistake that’s going to cost them many many dollars. Surely Apple Vision Pro is dead and nobody wants it. Apple just didn’t get the memo from commenters online and rage bait articles. I thought the nail was in the coffin last year when everyone who never wanted the product told me it was bad
I don’t really care what they do, my original comment was that all they did was update tech specs and that addresses none of the issues it had. Processing power wasn’t holding it back, everything else was.
If it seems like I’m not taking your comments as seriously as you wish them to be, it’s because i just can’t. It could not be more obvious that issues have been addressed and more will as time goes on. You’re just full of dated opinions that are going to age like milk
Hello from Austria. One question: does the blurry image of the surroundings (your flat) get better with the M5 model? Windows of VisionOS are very crisp but everything else is blurry with my M2 model…
Yes that remains the use case because of Wifi6. With 6E and 7 together with foreated rendering PC Steam VR could be streamed at very high rates formerly only possible over display port. You just do not close that door with a plain stupid design flaw not with a 4K$ Device. Just look what a Play for Dream or Galaxy XR can do.