The only reason that I skipped this was because of her. For her, if Apple does an iPhone in the shape of a rock, she will say "is the most advanced iPhone ever". She is the most bias reviewer ever.A rose between two thorns
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The MacRumors Show: iJustine Talks iPhone 15 and Apple Watch Series 9 First Impressions
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Good reason to skip totally the article. She is 100% bias.
If she's been "cringe since 07'<sic>" it's only increased her audience and her revenue. Nobody needs to change your mind because you aren't needed. Justine does quite well already, with people who aren't you, and she doesn't need you to be successful.
Love their discussion. Always love Dan’s presentation. Justine brought enthusiasm and positivity in the discussion!
Whether or not you agree with his specific points the fact that Apples' specifications are based on marketing rather than than actual physics measurements is disappointing, Their numbers are clearly deceptive. I expect better from Apple. There are phones which have optically better cameras as he shows in the video (iPhone 14).
Apples' specs:
- Main: 48MP, ƒ/1.78 aperture
- Ultra Wide: 12MP, ƒ/2.2 aperture
- Telephoto: 12MP, ƒ/2.8 aperture
I know nothing about android phones and how they are marketed, but are they honest about their FF equivalent focal length & aperture #s? I’m curious.
As well you should be! That person tried to gaslight you by saying if you don’t agree with them, you’re this-or-that. Not cool.
Oh sure. There’s always Linus Media Group. Oh wait…
Optimism makes the world turn ‘round!
I’m a fan of Yay too!Actually if I must guess, you are Justine's alt on here. Don't mean it in a bad way either. I'm a fan.
The sheer number of people who dissed everything about Apple leading up to the event should have been your forewarning about the hate. The only things that bother me about Apple are their debt (still too high in my opinion), the fact that 98% of the software on the App Store is going subscription or pay to pay…er, pay to play. That’s why I won’t get Logic for iPad and I will keep using Cubase, Ableton, and whatever else instead. Hear me loud and clear, Apple! No damned subscriptions, they are the mark of the devil!…There’s a lot of hate in this thread. Dang!
Also, I think they play down their battery and rare-earth metals mining needs. We need honesty.
Other than those things, I think Apple is doing a good job, ever since they switched to their own internal processes for their chips.
Been there, done that with the blood clot thingie. One other thing people don’t realize is that they want to put you on blood thinners for the rest of your life. The doctors INSIST it’s okay, but I am convinced that it changes you. Internally, mentally, and emotionally. I had a post-surgery blood clot back in ‘09, and my doctor wanted me to stay on Warfarin for the rest of my life. I told her that I will only entertain plans that get me off that stuff in 6 months or less.
She insisted on at least 12 months, and I agreed. See? NOW we’re negotiating, and she went from “forever” to one year, which tells me that “forever” was just her being overly cautious. At 11 months, she tried to get me to go to 13 months. I agreed one more time, but that was it. Now there are better medicines out there than warfarin, but still. I got off the blood thinners in October 2010, and haven’t needed them since.
I get it that some people need them for a long time. And some still will really need them for life. But my case was caused by the surgery. Anyway, if Justine is dealing with that since June, she’s probably got a long road ahead of her. Everybody should give her grace.
Oh, and I’ve been through the loss of not one, but both of my parents, less than a year apart. I get that too. OMG, do I ever get that. Grace, people. Give Justine grace. Or bad jujukarma will get you! Okay, I made that last part up.
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Oh I don’t know. I read only about 10% of the moaning and whining and gnashing of teeth in the week leading up to the Event. And I swear one person bit their own tongue trying to diss Apple.
Sounds to me like maybe the true imbalance is that there are so many pessimistic people and she’s only one bright light of enthusiasm.
I got the Apple Pencil 1 already KNOWING I’d have to charge it with a cord or plug it into my iPad’s charging port to make it useful. There just weren’t any other real solutions around at the time, so what do you expect? Besides that, the Apple Pencil 1 made up for its charging inconvenience by charging up FAST. And it really WAS better than anything else out there. I didn’t need iJustine to be the one to tell me THAT stuff, sheesh.
And reaistically speaking, should I make a big fuss about it when the pencil can be ready to do real work while I’m deciding “beef or chicken?”, and it’s ready to go by the time my server comes back with my drink order? It was annoying, sure, but it wasn’t like my underwear was riding up too high or anything.
Yeah, there are a lot worse things than plugging in a pencil to charge for 10 minutes. Pinching, itching, wacky things!
My point is, we can all find plenty of valid stuff to get annoyed with and lots of stuff, major or minor, to bee-eye-itch about. Or we can take what’s available in the moment and make something happen with it. Thank God Michelangelo didn’t lollygag about waiting for 3D printers! Thank God Frank Lloyd Wright didn’t lay on the couch waiting for CAD applications! Oh, and what would the world be like if Les Paul, Leo Fender, and Eddie Van Halen all just threw their hands up, said “eff it” and just went out drinking because digital recording was still a half-century away?
Sometimes a shovel is just a shovel. If it digs holes, then it serves the purpose of a shovel. Sometimes a pencil is just something you draw or write with.
Again, this is gaslighting. ”If you disagree with something, then you hate it. If you hate something, you’re a misogynist or an “ultra nerd” with no understanding….”, whatever that means.
Why can’t people just disagree with something? To the post I quoted immediately above, I defended iJustine. Now I have to defend people who don’t like her.
This is why we can’t have nice things. People, we need to have grace with each other; it’s getting ridiculous.
You assume it’s jealousy. Why? Can’t somebody just not like something? Can’t somebody just disagree?
That’s your opinion. Why would we waste your time and ours trying to change your mind? Be true, brother.
I expect a review to give a balanced review of a product. And not gloss over serious design compromises.
Yeah, converting smartphone cameras & apertures into their FF equivalent is kinda vague for all smart phone companies i think. About which company makes the best smartphone cameras? That is subjective. As an Apple user, I won’t deny that android phones have had longer optical tele lenses than Apple for awhile now. Even at 5x tele with the new 15 pro max, many android phones still have even longer teles. But saying which smartphone takes the best pics? That again is subjective. Apple has the advantage of creating both the hardware & software for more seamless integration. I look forward to all the youtube comparison videos that will be coming out over the next few months. I will always be team Apple, but competition is good for both Android & Apple customers.
I like iJustine's content to be honest. I follow a few YouTubers for Apple themed content and with iJustine she is perhaps overly enthusiastic and won't highlight the shortcomings of Apple products, but she is very good at engaging with the users who aren't interested in the deep spec details and those people do actually exist believe it or not. Not everybody is a tech snob of course and many like to see the nice, pretty improvements of these devices and have it delivered in a positive way. There are so many YouTubers out there to give us information and it would be very boring if they all discussed and delivered the same content.
I gave three potential options to explain the unhinged hate for her in this community. I didn't gaslight anyone. Jealousy was one of the potential explanations.
Why did I suggest those 3 though? Because when someone doesn't like something, they usually just avoid that thing, and they don't make a habit of talking about how much they don't like that thing. Or they'll make their preference known, and move on with their lives. But anytime Justine is referenced here, people come out of the woodwork to call her a shill, a terrible (or not even "real") tech reviewer, go on about how much they can't stand her, and these posts are literally dripping in jealousy. It's always "I don't understand why anyone pays attention to her at all when she..."
They could just stop there. They don't understand. But she does. That's why she's a popular Youtube personality who's doing great for herself and they're... angry on a forum.
Here’s a fourth option: None of the above because all three were logical fallacies.
One reason I find an element of misogyny on SOME of the criticisms against her is that she gets attacked for having an expressive style of delivery that is how many of us women communicate with amongst ourselves, when we’re not expecting to be under male dominated scrutiny. She’s just got the strength and stamina to be fully female in a male dominated arena.
Instead of just letting her be and moving on, so many people (mostly men) come out of the woodwork insisting on obliterating her presence in these hallowed halls of tech media, and in the most scathing hate filled tones. To those of us who are her audience, to see her attacked for the very traits we ourselves hold as women, it feels like sexism.
A lot of guys may not be aware that when they’re attacking her style, they’re not just attacking a style, but something many of us women identify with as ours.
I don’t think men know (or care) the extent to which women “mask” essential elements of our personalities to stay welcome on male dominated forums (and workplaces). We take on male styles of discussion and expression that aren’t really representative of our natural communication styles. Because if we don’t, we get the very treatment iJustine gets here. We get called light weights or stupid. We get dismissed. Or scolded. It’s happened to me on MacRumors more than once and thankfully my friends have come to my defense.
Some of us who are older have been doing this masking for so long we may have forgotten it IS a mask and think we’re being genuine and so yes, even some women will knock Justine down for her style. And men will use that to say “See, we are not being misogynistic, women aren’t like her and don’t like her either.” And it’s hard for someone of my generation without the vocabulary to describe what is really going on to argue against that. I can’t articulate that. But I FEEL it.
And there have been times when due to illness and/or stress I’ve let my own mask slip and got very strongly attacked for it. I deeply appreciate my forum friends for sticking up for me when that happened.
But I must say I can understand why people wouldn’t see the misogyny in this when so many are also strenuously attacking men who don’t “fit the mold” of what a person doing tech reporting should be. There’s a powerful lot of gatekeeping that goes on in this world against everybody that doesn’t fit a very specific template. But as a woman, I feel it in my bones that SOME of it IS sexist.
I despair that this post isn’t one of my better written ones. I’m coming off more than a week of grueling medical stuff. So I’m not going to come back and argue the inevitable picking apart of my poorly constructed points. This is the best I can put out there. I think even as badly written as it is it will resonate with some people anyway. And others will just walk away wondering “what the hell did I just read?”
Whatever. I’m old. I’m tired. I’m just going back to track my iPhone’s progress on the party thread.
Instead of just letting her be and moving on, so many people (mostly men) come out of the woodwork insisting on obliterating her presence in these hallowed halls of tech media, and in the most scathing hate filled tones. To those of us who are her audience, to see her attacked for the very traits we ourselves hold as women, it feels like sexism.
A lot of guys may not be aware that when they’re attacking her style, they’re not just attacking a style, but something many of us women identify with as ours.
I don’t think men know (or care) the extent to which women “mask” essential elements of our personalities to stay welcome on male dominated forums (and workplaces). We take on male styles of discussion and expression that aren’t really representative of our natural communication styles. Because if we don’t, we get the very treatment iJustine gets here. We get called light weights or stupid. We get dismissed. Or scolded. It’s happened to me on MacRumors more than once and thankfully my friends have come to my defense.
Some of us who are older have been doing this masking for so long we may have forgotten it IS a mask and think we’re being genuine and so yes, even some women will knock Justine down for her style. And men will use that to say “See, we are not being misogynistic, women aren’t like her and don’t like her either.” And it’s hard for someone of my generation without the vocabulary to describe what is really going on to argue against that. I can’t articulate that. But I FEEL it.
And there have been times when due to illness and/or stress I’ve let my own mask slip and got very strongly attacked for it. I deeply appreciate my forum friends for sticking up for me when that happened.
But I must say I can understand why people wouldn’t see the misogyny in this when so many are also strenuously attacking men who don’t “fit the mold” of what a person doing tech reporting should be. There’s a powerful lot of gatekeeping that goes on in this world against everybody that doesn’t fit a very specific template. But as a woman, I feel it in my bones that SOME of it IS sexist.
I despair that this post isn’t one of my better written ones. I’m coming off more than a week of grueling medical stuff. So I’m not going to come back and argue the inevitable picking apart of my poorly constructed points. This is the best I can put out there. I think even as badly written as it is it will resonate with some people anyway. And others will just walk away wondering “what the hell did I just read?”
Whatever. I’m old. I’m tired. I’m just going back to track my iPhone’s progress on the party thread.
No, I'm fine with the 3 options, and honestly, they're on the money. You know it, and everyone else knows it too.
Absolutely nailed it. Guys, take the time to read this. Other women in this world will be glad you did.
Spot on @GrumpyMom – excellent post 🙂
MacRumors need to make this 👆🏻 a pinned post. In so many places on the forums.
Thank you for appreciating and supporting what I was trying to convey.
Wish I could like this 10K times. Spot on, we need more woman, and ijustine’s in the cesspool of tech world.
Let me predict what the sentiment will be:
"Everything was amazing! I'm super excited to get my new [anything Apple has ever made]!"
"Everything was amazing! I'm super excited to get my new [anything Apple has ever made]!"