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The MacRumors Show: Is Apple Finally Taking Gaming Seriously? ft. TouchArcade
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Taking gaming seriously with a 8GB RAM MBP base entry with shared graphics? lol no way! And if they think they are doing this, they should finally start thinking differently again.
All they care for are the PeePoo Games, the ones that are usually played when someone sits on the throne, which almost the whole AppleArcade is.
All they care for are the PeePoo Games, the ones that are usually played when someone sits on the throne, which almost the whole AppleArcade is.
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good luck with that hope. Vision Pro will not be a gaming device.
Apple will never take gaming seriously. That's not where the money is, and more than that, gaming devices encourage serious stats comparisons. Apple doesn't want to compete on the amount of ram or the amount of cores or screen tech. Those kind of comparisons create a race to the bottom for profit margin. If apple ever made a true gaming computer is could start at $6000 and ram up charges would be 600 or more a pop.
fanciful thinking. Apple will not get anymore large performance leaps. This one occurred because of the 3nm process. moving forward, they will focus on the user experience and monetizing their customer base.
When Apple puts as much effort and resources into gaming as it does into TV.
It’s getting better, but has a long way to go and show a long term commitment.
Investing seriously into top studios would be a big plus.
It’s getting better, but has a long way to go and show a long term commitment.
Investing seriously into top studios would be a big plus.
I like Podcasts and I like discussions about Apple which makes products that I own. MacRumors isn't even the only podcast I listen to. I listen to so many others throughout the day. They've almost replaced regular radio.
Agreed.
This is a great point.
I wonder if Apple is intentionally holding back on gaming until they are ready to be a dominant player in all 4 gaming domains: mobile, TV/console, PC desktop, & AR/VR.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least, because Apple seemingly tends to only enter a category they think they can win. Having a strong foothold in each of these spaces would be a unique feature/selling point.
I can totally see Tim Cook in a few years saying some version of: “Only with Apple can you experience the best of gaming no matter where you are; whether that’s on the go (mobile/laptop), at home (TV/console/desktop), or in a digital home (AR/VR).
One day we will reach peak graphics, where even the weakest computer will be able to render the most detailed graphics and no additional effects will need more hardware power for games. That will be the era where most games will be in apple hardware too. I guess it will happen in two to four console generations. But until then most Macs are too weak for serious gaming.
That sounds probable as long as you take out the word dominant.
I agree that Apple’s vision is for a gaming ecosystem that encompasses all delivery modes
and it might be successful, but I don’t think it will dominate PC or console gaming.
We’ll see.
Respectfully, I've been hearing that this is the year of gaming on the Mac since Phil Schiller stood on the stage in maybe 2001 and did a demo of Quake or maybe it was Halo. It's never amounted to all that much.
I’m think it would help if Apple tried wooing some of the bigger studios.
Practically any game that can run on a Nintendo Switch should be able to run on M1/M2 iPads (probably also A15+ devices)
Immortals Fenyx Rising, Hogwarts Legacy, Child of Light, Ori 1&2, Lego games, Diablo 3, and so many more games should run (great) and bring some attention.
Also, make a beefier version of the AppleTV.
Practically any game that can run on a Nintendo Switch should be able to run on M1/M2 iPads (probably also A15+ devices)
Immortals Fenyx Rising, Hogwarts Legacy, Child of Light, Ori 1&2, Lego games, Diablo 3, and so many more games should run (great) and bring some attention.
Also, make a beefier version of the AppleTV.
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Unfortunately, when Apple refers to gaming, I think that they are referring to iOS games. iOS games make Apple a lot of money.
How much would it have cost to buy and run vs how much additional revenue would it have brought in ?
We all want more / better games for MacOS but Apple's primary concern is to its shareholders.
So I'm playing (and enjoying) Baldur's Gate 3 on my base model M2 Pro mini. I play it on High settings (2560 x 1440; the game chugs if I set it at my display's 5120 x 2880) and recently discovered the AMD Fidelity toggle in the video settings. I was getting about 30 FPS (which is fine in a game where combat is turn based), but when I turned AMD Fidelity on I got between 55 and 60 FPS. I've read a bit about AMD Fidelity, but I'm a bit confused as to how to tweak this. As far as I could tell though, using this was basically just "free" FPS without any degradation on any of the picture quality.
Note: I'm a console player and haven't used my Mac to play a triple A game in at least a decade, so I'm a noob as far as futzing around with video settings. I'm going to experiment a bit (like maybe putting the graphics at "Ultra" while using AMD Fidelity. Also I'm still on Ventura, though I might go to Sonoma this weekend (since Mac is mission critical for work, I tend to take my time before switching to new OS).
Anyone on this Mac gaming thread with some advice?
Note: I'm a console player and haven't used my Mac to play a triple A game in at least a decade, so I'm a noob as far as futzing around with video settings. I'm going to experiment a bit (like maybe putting the graphics at "Ultra" while using AMD Fidelity. Also I'm still on Ventura, though I might go to Sonoma this weekend (since Mac is mission critical for work, I tend to take my time before switching to new OS).
Anyone on this Mac gaming thread with some advice?
Except - all entry level computers from every manufacturer have 8gb base configs (and you can even still find 4). Gamers, like certain types of professional, aren’t buying these systems - they buy a higher spec machine. Are you really trying to state that the base Mac configs are any different from the entire rest of the industry?
If Apple cared about gaming, they would have bought Bungie when Halo was first demonstrated on a Power Computing Mac clone, and made Halo a Mac exclusive.
What does holding back and doing nothing noteworthy means for dominating gaming market? People don’t flock into your platform just because of some seemingly impressive synthetic benchmarks. And to Apple, they lack almost everything else that can convince a dev team to get their hands dirty on macOS, let alone committing to a serious release.
Nintendo switch itself isn’t really that powerful tho… but the biggest hurdle is the stubbornness of Nintendo IP department to permit porting their flagship titles to other platforms.
Not just a lot, sometimes with a staggering 900% profit margin for dev team. Obviously most money goes to devs but Apple also takes a huge commission from them.