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The MacRumors Show: Is Apple Finally Taking Gaming Seriously? ft. TouchArcade
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Agreed, Nintendo would be unlikely to budge on their IP but I think Apple could target dialog with the 3rd party games that are on the Switch
Such as: Games from Ubisoft, WB, Square Enix, Moon Studios, Rockstar, valve, FireAxis Games, maybe even some of the now acquired Microsoft studios ( i.e. Bethesda, Blizzard). etc.
Apple might need to do some serious wooing and maybe even willing to help with the porting costs/efforts. But it very well could be worth it in the long run, even if not financially for those specific games.
I know one of my frustrations with my M2 iPad Pro is simply that there are few apps, especially games on there that I think really showcase what it could be capable of. My understand is, hardware wise it should knock the socks off the Wii U or Nintendo Switch (maybe even Xbox 360) in terms of performance capabilities so it would be nice to see games available with the switch/xbox360 become available on apple devices also. Even if the games would require pairing 3rd party controllers.
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Ones that actually can max out performance of M2 today (cough, genshin impact, cough) are pay to win microtransaction disaster. Ones that don’t, uhh, is there any?
Five stars for this post of the week! Bungie was the creator of the Marathon series, arguably the best game ever developed for the Mac or any other platform at the time and were big time Mac enthusiasts. Halo was in the process of release for Mac and was demonstrated during the 1999 Macworld Expo keynote by Steve Jobs. They begrudgingly sold to MSFT (for between ($20-40m) one year later, MSFT released Halo as an Xbox exclusive and the game went on to single handedly save the Xbox franchise. Commemts on the matter: “The reasons for Bungie accepting Microsoft's offer were varied. Jones stated that "I don't remember the details exactly, it was all a blur. We'd been talking to people for years and years—before we even published Marathon, Activision made a serious offer. But the chance to work on Xbox—the chance to work with a company that took the games seriously. Before that we worried that we'd get bought by someone who just wanted Mac ports or didn't have a clue". BTW - the Halo franchise went on to gross ~$8 Billion (as of 2020) and the Xbox ecosystem grossed ~$22 Billion in 2021 alone. Not bad for a franchise built and saved primarily on a $20-30 million investment in a Mac game company. We all know whats become of Mac gaming ever since.
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If you are taking gaming serious, are you going to buy something with 8GB RAM?
I thought Apple devices did support Vulkan just not with feature parity as Metal. Am I remembering that incorrectly?
Is TouchArcade still the sort of place where micro-transaction traps that literally play themselves (literally) get amazing reviews?
TouchArcade: where game criticism goes to die.
TouchArcade: where game criticism goes to die.
I’m constantly surprised and confused that so many tech pros are constantly talking about the price of the Vision Pro. Is this just for clicks? Why can’t they understand that the price is totally irrelevant for this generation and even the next few? Apple is very limited in terms of how many of these devices they can even produce anyway due to the complexity, even if they were 10 bucks they’ve still got a finite and relatively low amount - which will all sell out. Gradually, as we see with iPhone 15, more and more and more features on phones and watches etc. will be specifically designed for use on the Vision range and then gradually that balance will tip when the form factor of the Vision Pro becomes comfortable enough to wear for hours and hours. Anyone declaring or expecting that this device is supposed to “take the world by storm” like the iPhone is totally delusional and on the wrong track, or just trolling. This is a long game and there’s a lot of very good reasons why people can’t stomach more than 20 minutes on a $500 headset right now - they are totally crap. They are also trying to declare that the “metaverse” is here for everyone, way before the actual functioning, comfortable tech is here to support it. Apple has set the first Vision Pro as the baseline for the standard of equipment needed to even begin to contemplate wearing these devices long term, but as such, even that is still too clunky and expensive because that is the state of technology currently. Trust me, within 10 years ALL of you will own whatever the Vision becomes and wonder how you ever managed without it.
132 million units of Nintendo Switch, that only has 4GB of RAM, would imply that some serious gamers do indeed purchase such items...
I was reading an article once that tried to think through if this was possible.Hurry up Apple and acquire Nintendo already
The super high level summary basically came down to yes possible but very improbable. There were lots of reasons but the biggest I recall was that the Japanese government is very protective of Japanese businesses and how international interests may come into play with them.
I did wonder though if Apple couple effectively buy near controlling shares and strike a deal to buy rights to use Nintendo’s IP.
The Switch doesn’t run MacOS or multitask numerous apps, browsers and a multitude of background tasks.
Nintendo Switch is a handheld, lite gaming dedicated device. It also has 64GB of storage. Most AAA game downloads exceed 50GB with some like MSFT flight sim at 180GB alone. The switch is not a PC And gaming on it is not PC gaming w/ massive CPU/RAM processing, ray tracing, frame generation, +120htz fps, etc. Heck, the recommended minimum requirements for most AAA PC games specify 16GB and incurs performance degredation. a much better comparison in the handheld gaming PC arena would be the Steam Deck or ROG Ally - both of which start w/ 16GB RAM and spec up storage options to 1TB+. Figure that, a base model steam handheld starts with more RAM than an iMac or MacBook Pro and Apple claims to be serious about gaming?
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Exactly.
Gaming (process), is enabled through technology over a spectrum of complexity (low/advanced) throughout time (past/now/future). What was considered 'advanced' technology 10 years ago is no longer considered advanced in present day.
While the Nintendo Switch (technology) was launched ~6 years ago and it was not necessarily advanced technologically in contrast to it's peers at the time, that should not detract from the fact that it was, and still is, a serious gaming capability.
A gamer (people) could be a poker player, a soccer player, an e-sports gamer etc. Between these three example gamers, varying levels of technological complexity is involved; cards, ball/camera review tech, a PS5. But:
'Serious' does not equate to the most advanced or complex.
Therefore:
Yes. Some might, and many millions do, because everyone is unique, have differing circumstances, financial amounts and value different things.
to summarize, then:
pong:Atari = 8gb m3 Mac:32gb i9 13700k PC = serious solitare:’AAA’ 2023 gaming = $$:$
Could you please explain that in a different way because the syntax of that sentence is difficult to understand. Thanks