They will let apps run natively on Watch later this year, will be same speed as stock apps. Still hits the iPhone, but eliminates one delay.
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No, we will get standalone Watch but only after battery and cell chips are capable.
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They will let apps run natively on Watch later this year, will be same speed as stock apps. Still hits the iPhone, but eliminates one delay.
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No, we will get standalone Watch but only after battery and cell chips are capable.
received my 38 SS CB yesterday and it's already boxed up ready to return.
I think the watch is great, the software works very well and looks amazing in person. That being said the 38mm is just too small for me - and I have small wrist. The first thing my wife said when she saw it yesterday was "hmm that looks awkward on you". That's all I needed to hear. So I will return this and wait for my 42 SG Sport. Also, the price of the Sport makes it much more palatable for me seeing I'm getting this primarily for exercise. I don't think I'll mind nicking up the sport watch as I would the SS. The price difference is quite significant. And with some of the bands it seems you can "dress up" the Sport enough to wear to work/meetings.
I think the watch is great, the software works very well and looks amazing in person. That being said the 38mm is just too small for me - and I have small wrist. The first thing my wife said when she saw it yesterday was "hmm that looks awkward on you". That's all I needed to hear. So I will return this and wait for my 42 SG Sport. Also, the price of the Sport makes it much more palatable for me seeing I'm getting this primarily for exercise. I don't think I'll mind nicking up the sport watch as I would the SS. The price difference is quite significant. And with some of the bands it seems you can "dress up" the Sport enough to wear to work/meetings.
I don't think Apple expects the Watch to be the next iPhone. However, if they can get 10% of their customer base to buy an accessory, they are a larger player in wearables than Rolex.
Not to sound to preachy. But why return it? Why not offer it to some of us that are still waiting for their watch? I would gladly pay whatever you paid for the watch, plus shipping cost and cancel my preorder.
since battery technology doesn't have the same scaling and improrvement that silicon has, it might be a long time before we get to that point or it might be tomorrow.
People seem to be expecting amazing improvements to the Watch in the course of merely a year or two of hardware revisions, and I think that's completely unrealistic for the very reason you mentioned: constraints of a smartwatch. The whole thing's operating on a 205 mAh battery, and the watch itself isn't going to get larger like the iPhone did to make room for more capacity. Chips will become both more power and space efficient, but slowly.
Anyone holding out for an Apple Watch that is noticeably thinner, lighter, faster, and has on-board GPS or cellular and lasts more than a day is going to be waiting a very, very long time. Given the physical constraints of the device and the battery technology available today, we'll be lucky to see one of those things each year for the next five years.
If I'm being really honest: because I don't trust you and I do trust Apple. The premium I might get in selling price isn't worth the risk.
I sold an unopened black sport watch for 999 yesterday (it had may shipment while my SS arrived on 4/24). I sold my other SS (wife's but she didn't like) that arrived 4/24 for 1499. So there's not much buyers remorse. Selling on ebay is 10 percent plus paypal but it's simple as heck.
As for the Watch, I'm not sure why anyone would buy it if you didn't want notifications on the wrist. Not missing them and being discreet is the main appeal. Quick responses and basically just being alerted about something that you can choose to act on later.
Fitness tracking, I don't use. All of that is turned off. It's hardly accurate. It takes too much time. And what's the point? I workout by schedule. What I do in that time period is what I do. I don't care to know results that don't mean much since they're hardly accurate.
Apps (although currently not apps, but widgets). I don't use these either. Some of you talk about native apps later improving things. So what? It'll still be slower and more painful to use than the iphone.
Glances. Some of these can be useful like the do not disturb one or music, and perhaps weather.
Siri. Works great at times. Other times, not so much. It's how I open messages or settings. The icon launch screen is a horrible mess. Just bad bad design. Needs sound. Needs to be onboard.
Scroll wheel. It sucks. Just a moving part we don't need. Something to go wrong. I hardly use it as it is except when you have to.
Force Touch. Can be annoying. But has potential. I'm undecided on it.
Speaker. Weak. But at least enable it for music or Siri.
I'm not certain why people talk about spending more on 2nd or 3rd gen. If you can tolerate the Sport, then why ever spend more? If it's not worth it for you to do now, then it won't be later either. I'll be honest, if I hadn't been able to sell the extra watches, I'd have been fine with the Sport. The SS doesn't really look much better IMO. An optional leather loop and sport is a much better value. Both look like smartwatches.
For the milanese I have, I'm doing a band swap. But I've also got the watch listed (but close to double the price). If it sells, great (a 2-3 month wait is still an incentive for some buyers).
I really like the Watch. I wouldn't pass up 500+ profit on it though if it sells and simply reorder a Sport.
As for the Watch, I'm not sure why anyone would buy it if you didn't want notifications on the wrist. Not missing them and being discreet is the main appeal. Quick responses and basically just being alerted about something that you can choose to act on later.
Fitness tracking, I don't use. All of that is turned off. It's hardly accurate. It takes too much time. And what's the point? I workout by schedule. What I do in that time period is what I do. I don't care to know results that don't mean much since they're hardly accurate.
Apps (although currently not apps, but widgets). I don't use these either. Some of you talk about native apps later improving things. So what? It'll still be slower and more painful to use than the iphone.
Glances. Some of these can be useful like the do not disturb one or music, and perhaps weather.
Siri. Works great at times. Other times, not so much. It's how I open messages or settings. The icon launch screen is a horrible mess. Just bad bad design. Needs sound. Needs to be onboard.
Scroll wheel. It sucks. Just a moving part we don't need. Something to go wrong. I hardly use it as it is except when you have to.
Force Touch. Can be annoying. But has potential. I'm undecided on it.
Speaker. Weak. But at least enable it for music or Siri.
I'm not certain why people talk about spending more on 2nd or 3rd gen. If you can tolerate the Sport, then why ever spend more? If it's not worth it for you to do now, then it won't be later either. I'll be honest, if I hadn't been able to sell the extra watches, I'd have been fine with the Sport. The SS doesn't really look much better IMO. An optional leather loop and sport is a much better value. Both look like smartwatches.
For the milanese I have, I'm doing a band swap. But I've also got the watch listed (but close to double the price). If it sells, great (a 2-3 month wait is still an incentive for some buyers).
I really like the Watch. I wouldn't pass up 500+ profit on it though if it sells and simply reorder a Sport.
You'll still make a profit, large or small, depending on which model you have.
I don't know. I had the Moto 360 when it came out and it had terrible battery life, which eventually got fixed later on. I also didn't really feel like it did much either and it was $250 at the time. At that price you were not really getting much, display isn't very good, the glass they used felt cheap, was slow overall. One positive was that it came with a leather band which was nice. I can't really comment on the other devices.
I'm hoping come June Apple releases some API's for the watch which will improve 3rd party app functionality.
I guess the world hates me. I sold a 38mm silver sport with blue band for only $540 (opened and worn for 3 days) and a 38mm SG sport with black band for $520 (unopened, still in the UPS box it came in).
That said, if I decide on returning my 38mm SS with classic buckle, with my luck, I'd just return it.
I assume yours were 42mm?
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True, but Tesla Gigafactory and Powerwall will push battery tech. GF 2020 output should exceed global 2013 battery production. Apple also bought at least one battery research firm.
Whatever dude.. no need to be salty that I'm right. Just as the sun will rise tomorrow, there will be updates to the apple watch. You don't need to be Nostradamus to predict that one.
EDIT: oh, and btw, I never said anything about speed improvements specifically. I was just responding to your "There's no evidence that any improvements are pending" comment, which is rediculous.
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Seems to make more sense to use app extensions, and frankly when done right, there's no lag at all. IMO the system is not "designed to be slow" LOL, the 3rd party app builders need to get there shizz together and make good extensions.
It doesn't work or consumers just have no interest in Samsung/Moto/Pebble watches? I think the latter based on sales data. Those are pure Geek Gadgets.
My point is that maybe Apple should not have focused on the fashion aspect yet and tried to get traction for the watch as a convenience device, you know, the actual functionality of the watch. Keep the pricing closer to few-sizes-fits-many. It has worked for Apple with iPads and iPhones when sold as consumer devices, not fashion items.
For the avg. consumer, who really isn't into high fashion or wanting to spend $500 on a watch when they only spend $199 for their phone (not including the wireless bill, most don't consider that as part of the price even if it is), there is a lot for them to consider for something not really essential.
This isn't directed at the OP personally, but rather a general rant at what I perceive as cycnical, jaded, and unfair scrutiny for this new Apple product.
How jaded have we become that we can scoff and yawn over this fricking computer that we wear on our wrist. A little computer with a beautiful retina display, constructed with such beauty and precision----a little computer that can free us from constantly pulling our phone out of our pocket or running to our phone to see what this ding, or that beep was for.
First off, it is a watch, and a beautifully constructed one at that, and very accurate, and it's customizable!!! A regular mechanical watch has one watch face, and that's it, forever! With an Apple Watch, not only do you have a decent supply of watch faces, but each one is customizable! YOu can display weather, activity tracking, stock market info, your next calendar appointment!
I mean sheesh----plus, it's no bigger than most mechanical watches out there. It's smaller than the Fossil watch I used to wear before, but now is gathering dust because the battery died and I never went to replace it.
"But do you need it" ---of course not! We don't need 99% of what Apple sells. I got along just fine with my old flip phone back in the day. But would I give up my iphone now? Hell no!
You don't need automatic door locks or windows in your car either, the old crank, or manual unlock works just fine, you just have to reach over and do it......but how many of us insist on those features in our next car?
It's all about convenience.....
I think the Apple Watch is amazing. I'm tired of everyone who doesn't "get it", trying to convince the rest of the world why it sucks.
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How jaded have we become that we can scoff and yawn over this fricking computer that we wear on our wrist. A little computer with a beautiful retina display, constructed with such beauty and precision----a little computer that can free us from constantly pulling our phone out of our pocket or running to our phone to see what this ding, or that beep was for.
First off, it is a watch, and a beautifully constructed one at that, and very accurate, and it's customizable!!! A regular mechanical watch has one watch face, and that's it, forever! With an Apple Watch, not only do you have a decent supply of watch faces, but each one is customizable! YOu can display weather, activity tracking, stock market info, your next calendar appointment!
I mean sheesh----plus, it's no bigger than most mechanical watches out there. It's smaller than the Fossil watch I used to wear before, but now is gathering dust because the battery died and I never went to replace it.
"But do you need it" ---of course not! We don't need 99% of what Apple sells. I got along just fine with my old flip phone back in the day. But would I give up my iphone now? Hell no!
You don't need automatic door locks or windows in your car either, the old crank, or manual unlock works just fine, you just have to reach over and do it......but how many of us insist on those features in our next car?
It's all about convenience.....
I think the Apple Watch is amazing. I'm tired of everyone who doesn't "get it", trying to convince the rest of the world why it sucks.
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Maybe I missed something, but most on this thread don't say it 'sucks,' most, if not all, say that 'it doesn't work for them.' That is a HUGE difference.
True enough. They may not be saying "it sucks", but there is, in my mind, an unusual number of threads talking about "why the watch is not for them", "why they're returning it", "why they don't like it".
There are plenty of Apple products that aren't for me either, Mac Pro, Macbook air, Mac mini.......but I don't create threads to say why, for each product I don't have, why I won't be getting one. If I wanted to create a thread for each product I decided was not for me, I'd be quite a busy person.
And again, like I said, it's not necessarily directed at the OP-- I've just seen enough of these threads to make me want to say something.
I'm sorry but you're wrong. The problem is in the back and forth communication between the watch and the iPhone. That's not going to get much better. With tweaking. Maybe just a tad better. When the Apple Watch apps are native to the Watch, that's when you'll see a big difference in performance. The bottleneck is between Bluetooth and wifi and no amount of tweaking by the devs is going to do much for the current lag.
Definitely. Still, after owning it for my short stint, I feel that I could wait it out for a 2nd gen or at least some software updates.
It's a pretty impressive device, but I have my own opinions towards this watch that you may not share. I think that we can all coexist though
Your Watch syncs specific data with your iPhone. Some include calendar events, messages, mail, music and photos if selected, and certain third-party applications' code if installed. The rest is transmitted over bluetooth in real-time. The problem is that the third party apps don't retain state so you have to "load" them more often.
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after having the Stainless Steel for a few hours, while I think it's very nice, I think for the use I plan to get out of it, it's not for me. I just can't see myself feeling comfortable doing a 40-50 mile bike ride with a stainless steel watch.
Smart. Kudos.
I would imagine that 98% of the people who would pay this for these are shipping them somewhere.
What a marketplace folks
If you launch the Nike app first on the phone then there is also no waiting time on the watch app. If people want faster watch apps then it's up to the phone apps to launch rapidly too, until we get native watch apps.
It was just one example explaining the process that happens in the background when you launch a watch app. People see a spinning wheel and assume that the watch "isn't powerful enough" or some such thing.