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iPad The new iPads have binned chips !

Astuces iOS said:
For people who doesn’t have an iPad or are coming from android this iPad is good yes. But for example you bought the iPad mini 6… then you want to buy the new iPad… well normally since the iPad is 3.5 years more recent… the iPad should be better than the mini ! For example the iPad 10 is truly better than the iPad mini 5 ! But now it’s not the case at all :

- Yes you get a larger screen but you are loosing the P3 wide color and the Antireflective coating (Which means a better screen for the 3.5 years old mini)

- Yes you are getting an A16 instead of an A15 but the A16 has one less CPU core and one less GPU core (which might finally result in similar performances)

- You are loosing the flash but ok you are getting a 128gb base model.

So finally both iPads are similar and the problem is that they have a 3.5 years old difference! This is incredible!

More incredible : Apple is selling the iPad mini 6 refurbished more expensive than the iPad A16 which is a proof that they have a similar value
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Here in Singapore, the iPad mini costs $699 while the iPad costs $500 (I am not going to convert them back to US dollar, but you get the gist behind the pricing. Based on pricing alone, I can already infer that the iPad mini is going to be better in some way, since you are getting a smaller screen for that price.

Here's how I see Apple's line-up for the year.

iPad - basic iPad experience. Good enough for most workflows, and possible education where Apple Intelligence is likely going to be disabled anyways.
iPad Air - pro features at an affordable price
iPad Pro - most advanced features and technology
iPad mini - smaller form factor for specialised use cases

Does it suck that the iPad doesn't get apple intelligence? Probably, but I think the issue is also that giving it 8gb ram would basically kill the market for the iPad mini and the iPad Air, or at least force Apple to not make the base iPad too cheap (as was the case with the iPhone 16e). Apple's priority with the iPad is likely to price it low enough to be attractive to people new to Apple or tablet computing, and I suspect this trumps having every iOS device be Apple-intelligence-compatible, I guess.

I suspect the real issue is that while people may not really care about AI, they do at least want the additional ram, and it's easy to conflate the two.

The takeaway - Apple is predictable, until it isn't. :)
 
Astuces iOS said:
People think the new iPad Air M3 has the chip as the M3 MacBook Air/Pro but actually no it has a 9 cores GPU like the iPad Air M2. Ok that might be fine for the iPad Air but things are getting worse with the iPad A16…

Everyone is angry that the iPad A16 doesn’t has Apple Intelligence but things are getting worse :

- It has one binned CPU core

- It has one binned GPU core

So yeah the iPad A16 is slower than the iPhone 14 Pro/15… I don’t understand why they did that one the iPad A16.

PS : The iPad 10 has even 6 CPU cores… against 5 on this iPad… bruh difference won’t be very large I guess…
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Let me guess, people who are interested in iPad Air should skip it and buy MBP instead because you think it's better right?
 
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Abazigal said:
Here in Singapore, the iPad mini costs $699 while the iPad costs $500 (I am not going to convert them back to US dollar, but you get the gist behind the pricing. Based on pricing alone, I can already infer that the iPad mini is going to be better in some way, since you are getting a smaller screen for that price.

Here's how I see Apple's line-up for the year.

iPad - basic iPad experience. Good enough for most workflows, and possible education where Apple Intelligence is likely going to be disabled anyways.
iPad Air - pro features at an affordable price
iPad Pro - most advanced features and technology
iPad mini - smaller form factor for specialised use cases

Does it suck that the iPad doesn't get apple intelligence? Probably, but I think the issue is also that giving it 8gb ram would basically kill the market for the iPad mini and the iPad Air, or at least force Apple to not make the base iPad too cheap (as was the case with the iPhone 16e). Apple's priority with the iPad is likely to price it low enough to be attractive to people new to Apple or tablet computing, and I suspect this trumps having every iOS device be Apple-intelligence-compatible, I guess.

I suspect the real issue is that while people may not really care about AI, they do at least want the additional ram, and it's easy to conflate the two.

The takeaway - Apple is predictable, until it isn't. :)
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Good point making the iPad better would kill the iPad mini probably but then apple should offer more new features on every iPad :

- iPad get A17 pro with Apple Intelligence

- iPad mini get more features like Face ID or even 90hz

- iPad Air get more features like Face ID or even 90hz also

Then probably the mini and the air wouldn’t die… what do you think?
 
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Astuces iOS said:
Good point making the iPad better would kill the iPad mini probably but then apple should offer more new features on every iPad :

- iPad get A17 pro with Apple Intelligence

- iPad mini get more features like Face ID or even 90hz

- iPad Air get more features like Face ID or even 90hz also

Then probably the mini and the air wouldn’t die… what do you think?
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The thing is that the A16 chip isn't necessarily bad. It just won't support Apple Intelligence. If you are willing to overlook that, the iPad is actually pretty decent value overall.
 
rui no onna said:
iPad mini 6 (2021) was better than the newer iPad 10 (2022) though.

The iPad mini is generally mid-range. The regular iPad is their entry level and typically has lower specs than the mini. The iPad mini 5 (2019) had A12/3GB while the iPad 7th gen (2019) was just A10/3GB.

The iPad 8th gen (2020) matched iPad mini 5 but the following year in 2021, the iPad mini 6 got A15/4GB while the 9th gen was just A13/3GB.

P.S. The 2015 iPad mini 4 had a better display (fully laminated, anti-reflective) than all subsequent regular iPad models.
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Yup iPad mini 6 better than iPad 10 is not a problem

iPad mini 5 better than iPad 7 or 8 is not a problem also…

But the problem is the 3.5 years iPad later should be better than the mini and here is why :

- let’s not talk about iPad mini 123… there was no iPad in 2015 or 2016 so we can’t do comparison

- The iPad mini 4 vs iPad 6 : ok the mini has a better screen but the 6 has a better chip, support for Apple Pencil, double the storage…

- iPad mini 5 vs 10 : The iPad 10 is smashing the iPad mini 5 you guys know

- Now with the mini 6 vs A16… we have very similar things… At least the iPad 6 had A10 against A8 but now it’s A16 with 2 less cores against A15 normal
 
SkweeBop said:
Agreed. Every time I update my phone, I get a prompt to set Intelligence up, and every time I turn it off immediately. Siri's voice is there to navigate me in the car, that's all I need there.

As for an ipad, I will likely next get an Air 13" so I can read full-sized sheet music on it, though I do admit I'll likely lament the audio quality downgrade from my 11" Pro.
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Apple Intelligence is not very intelligent. You’re not missing much.
 
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geta said:
No idea how you can use such an old device that doesn’t support Apple Intelligence…
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Pretty simple. If one has no need for such features then they will have no issues using a device that doesn't support such features. I primarily upgraded my Mini 6 to a 7 so that I could hand my 6 to my elderly father for general browsing. Admittedly I was also curious about AI features. After having the Mini 7 for a few months now I can honestly say that I have little to no need for any AI functionality currently available in iPadOS. That may change as more features are added but for now the only thing that I use occasionally is image editing functions. We are all different so I don't claim to represent a majority.
 
muzzy996 said:
Pretty simple. If one has no need for such features then they will have no issues using a device that doesn't support such features. I primarily upgraded my Mini 6 to a 7 so that I could hand my 6 to my elderly father for general browsing. Admittedly I was also curious about AI features. After having the Mini 7 for a few months now I can honestly say that I have little to no need for any AI functionality currently available in iPadOS. That may change as more features are added but for now the only thing that I use occasionally is image editing functions. We are all different so I don't claim to represent a majority.
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Crow_Servo said:
Nice try. M2 supports Apple Intelligence.
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To be clear I don't care about it and I know it supports ... but my post was aimed to specific member.
 
Astuces iOS said:
For people who doesn’t have an iPad or are coming from android this iPad is good yes. But for example you bought the iPad mini 6… then you want to buy the new iPad… well normally since the iPad is 3.5 years more recent… the iPad should be better than the mini ! For example the iPad 10 is truly better than the iPad mini 5 ! But now it’s not the case at all :

- Yes you get a larger screen but you are loosing the P3 wide color and the Antireflective coating (Which means a better screen for the 3.5 years old mini)

- Yes you are getting an A16 instead of an A15 but the A16 has one less CPU core and one less GPU core (which might finally result in similar performances)

- You are loosing the flash but ok you are getting a 128gb base model.

So finally both iPads are similar and the problem is that they have a 3.5 years old difference! This is incredible!

More incredible : Apple is selling the iPad mini 6 refurbished more expensive than the iPad A16 which is a proof that they have a similar value
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You're not comparing like products here.
 
Astuces iOS said:
Good point making the iPad better would kill the iPad mini probably but then apple should offer more new features on every iPad :

- iPad get A17 pro with Apple Intelligence

- iPad mini get more features like Face ID or even 90hz

- iPad Air get more features like Face ID or even 90hz also

Then probably the mini and the air wouldn’t die… what do you think?
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Why do you want every product line to have the same features?
 
The only real drawback for the iPad 11th gen from my perspective is it doesn't have av1 decoding. It's not like I would use it for anything particularly intense.
 
IJustWannaTalk said:
Why do you want every product line to have the same features?
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No it was an example : we boost either iPad mini and iPad Air to boost the normal iPad… Why we boost the iPad Air and the mini : because if we boost the iPad… then why would anyone buy the mini or the air ? And why we boost the iPad : to make it a better upgrade from iPad Mini 6, Air 4, iPad 10……
 
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unchecked said:
Yea except we don’t know when it may get smart and become actually useful.

That’s why I say this is planned obsolescence waiting to happen.
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Yes, but I could see that happening either way. Like a scenario where Apple says that M1-M4 chips (and A17 Pro-A18) get Apple Intelligence, but M5 (and A19) gets Apple Intelligence 2.0. Or they’d maybe require 16GB RAM for Apple Intelligence 2.0, which no iPad Air has.

Once Apple figures out Apple Intelligence’s roadmap, they might start figuring out how to release their products more consistently to support it.
 
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