The new mac mini will almost certainly be orange, and almost certainly will be named the Mac MinnEOLa in honor of Crosscreek.
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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We've all almost certainly gone bonkers from the waiting.
If nothing else the Apple stall has clearly highlighted what I need vs what I may have wanted and not needed. Since I've down-sized from "Pro" (G5) I realized many of my needs were "wants". But going forward I have no reasonably priced alternative and that is definitely a "NEED"!
We are 2 months away from the make-or-break period for any possibility of a new Mac Mini.
In October, it will have been a full 3 years since it was last updated (5 years since the last genuine update).
No rumours whatsoever 2 months out, which is not a good sign at all.
This thread should be closed after October. If there is no release by October, the Mini is a discontinued product.
In October, it will have been a full 3 years since it was last updated (5 years since the last genuine update).
No rumours whatsoever 2 months out, which is not a good sign at all.
This thread should be closed after October. If there is no release by October, the Mini is a discontinued product.
Why? I don't get the significance of the specific amount of time and date. Why would one not "lose hope" now instead of then? Why would one lose hope then instead of next year?
A company such as Apple should have a strategic plan for their products - holes and gaps in product may develop over time but there is always a "strategic focus" and direction. Apple has stepped away from a predictable platform and turned into a "visionary supplier" who may or may not continue with a given product. For the money they ask we should at least feel comfortable making sound choices about our future directions with any given product from them.
Even if something is released will they "grow" it or will it be out the door after 2 iterations.
Even if something is released will they "grow" it or will it be out the door after 2 iterations.
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Hmm, let's see the track record. MP has now over 1300 days in real counter. It will get maybe to 1800, before the new model.
Mini has now only about 1000...
I seriously doubt we will see a new Mini this year. Any new mini would be powerful enough to cut sales from the new iMac. The mini is the cheapest and least performing iMac (well...don't know how it compares to the MacBook but yeah) and no reason to upgrade it if it is to stay that.
My guess at this point is that there is only one small chance we will see a new Mini. With the release of the iMac Pro. Else, I just don't see it happening for at least another 12 or so months.
Of course Apple could troll us and release a new line of Mini with the most powerful having a higher Mhz but single core CPU. That would be awful but also so hilarious.
My guess at this point is that there is only one small chance we will see a new Mini. With the release of the iMac Pro. Else, I just don't see it happening for at least another 12 or so months.
Of course Apple could troll us and release a new line of Mini with the most powerful having a higher Mhz but single core CPU. That would be awful but also so hilarious.
"Diminishing Returns" as it relates to those who've been here since the beginning. Assuming every computer can play games and render a 4K movie without issue - what would be the issue then? Really, I think we've seen the best you're going to see until something pivotal occurs to computing in general - what I'm saying is if you're of a certain age how can you experience the same gains as 20 years ago - the leaps are far shorter and further apart because frankly we've hit the ceiling under the current format of keyboard, mouse and display.
Until the next leap in technology we're just splitting hairs - of course Apple gives us something to argue about but the truth is they could build just what we want and then you'd soon realize it's just not enough based on prior advances to become overly excited about the near term. When Grandparents are walking around with smartphones the technology can be considered "mature".
Mobility (is) was the new frontier - of course, those sitting tethered to a desktop look like that poster "System down Long?". But don't worry, is progress really progress when dumb people (not necessarily Grandparents) are walking around with smart phones.
Until the next leap in technology we're just splitting hairs - of course Apple gives us something to argue about but the truth is they could build just what we want and then you'd soon realize it's just not enough based on prior advances to become overly excited about the near term. When Grandparents are walking around with smartphones the technology can be considered "mature".
Mobility (is) was the new frontier - of course, those sitting tethered to a desktop look like that poster "System down Long?". But don't worry, is progress really progress when dumb people (not necessarily Grandparents) are walking around with smart phones.
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The mini CANNOT do those things. Which is the whole point. It's actually one of the few computers on the market than can't display 4K content properly (60hz). $250 windows boxes can easily accomplish that.
4K is the biggest advancement in PC in a long while. Only the Macbook Pro and retina iMacs can hack that. The Mini certainly can't.
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I'm basically saying ... once you get those things you'll realize they weren't pivotal to your environment - 20 years ago desktop computing was pivotal as was the advent of the smartphone and mobility 8-10 years ago - screen resolution isn't pivotal (you're doing what you've always done just with higher resolution). I think once we get games and 4K on a Mini (or whatever) we'll get bored because that just isn't ground-shaking when you think about it.
Not having an affordable desktop replacement for the Mini that does gaming and 4K shouldn't be where we are but even providing that capability won't elevate Apple's profits like the iPhone.
Perhaps Apple knows this which is why they're desperately pursuing the next "big" thing like AR and VR which may end up like 3D for the average consumer. Features like TouchBar just won't cut it at this point and higher speed connectivity at the cost of legacy ports is short-sided and simply a "money-grab". To take the market "by storm" like the iPhone and surpass previous profits they need to do something revolutionary or evolutionary. Thinness, resolution, form-factor and battery-life are all expectations at this point which is somewhat low-brow relatively speaking.
Not having an affordable desktop replacement for the Mini that does gaming and 4K shouldn't be where we are but even providing that capability won't elevate Apple's profits like the iPhone.
Perhaps Apple knows this which is why they're desperately pursuing the next "big" thing like AR and VR which may end up like 3D for the average consumer. Features like TouchBar just won't cut it at this point and higher speed connectivity at the cost of legacy ports is short-sided and simply a "money-grab". To take the market "by storm" like the iPhone and surpass previous profits they need to do something revolutionary or evolutionary. Thinness, resolution, form-factor and battery-life are all expectations at this point which is somewhat low-brow relatively speaking.
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Eh, properly for you and me perhaps, but it can do 4K just fine. Just not at 60 hz as you said. That is annoying and I wish my 2012 could do it.
BUT, comparing to a $250 window box is just silly. It's not a matter of horsepower it's a matter of connection. I seriously doubt there is any $250 window box as you call it (I assume it is something like an android box only running windows) that has the horsepower of a say 2012 mac mini. If the problem is displaying 4K at 60 and you can solve this with a "window box", I assume it is for displaying content at that resolution and not do any work? Because if you want to do work that requires 4K@60 you are definitely not going to get it done with a $250 window box, so comparing the two is just silly.
I very much doubt that is the reason. A Mac Mini refresh would likely just be a dual-core CPU / iGPU upgrade so it's not going to compete with the 4K and 5K iMacs with their quad-core CPUs and dedicated GPUs. Plus once you add a good 4K or 5K display and an Apple wireless keyboard and mouse to it, you're well into iMac territory price-wise so you'd just buy the iMac.
I know what I am talking about (guessing), a new mac mini would not have JUST a 2 core cpu, if it did we would not see a new mac mini or we would already have seen one. It would have to have at least as an option a quad core and of course being able to do 4K@60. That's why I said what I said and I stand by it.
In this day and age we (average consumer) shouldn't need to discuss cores ... any mid-tier machine should comfortably overpower our existing needs while positioning the user base for massive improvements in capability maybe 2 years down the road when AR and VR are adopted more heavily. We had a quad-core in 2012 - it can't possibly have the same margin of meaning in 2017 ... in fact I don't want to hear about cores (that means somebody's clocking) - enough power not to care is about where I'd expect to be right now.
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It's not just 4K60p...it's also the new HEVC (H.265) codec support that is missing...so a Kaby Lake Mac Mini would be really awesome!
I don't disagree. I am just saying it makes sense for them to wait till next year.
Are you unaware of what the latest Intel low power chips are capable of? They blow the 2012 Mini clean out of the water. They can do full smooth 4K @ 60hz while doing all the real work you need them to. Look st the NUC boxes. They stomp all over the Mini.
We have GabrieleR to thank for this thread, which will almost certainly continue going as long as there is a Mac Mini in Apple's Mac line-up, which will almost certainly be updated from time to time, albeit at less frequent intervals than in days of yore.