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A few years ago, that wouldn't have been a question; Windows 8 was getting terrible reviews, while game companies were ramping up migration of their top titles to OS X.

Which is no longer the case, though I expect a big part of that is due to Apple no longer supporting OpenCL/OpenGL at anything resembling current capabilities (natively or via Vulkan).

Now that Metal 2 is offering some real features that would appeal to game designers this may change, at least for major companies like Activision-Blizzard (who will hopefully be able to use Metal 2 to port Overwatch to macOS). In such a scenario, if Apple still does not wish to offer high-performance GPUs in any model other than the Mac Pro, licensing it to companies like Alienware and their peers might be something...
 
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With proper support for egpu, even a mac mini of same or smaller size of the current one, would do. If someone wants the extra gpu power, get an egpu.
The question is, what's inside (the future) mac mini and how easy (or impossible) is to repair/upgrade it yourself, if at all.
Memory does go bad, so do HDD/SSDs. For me the best thing about a future mac mini would be quad core CPU with the user being able to replace the drive and memory, even if it means voiding the warranty. Hell, if Apple wants to be mean about it, make it so they only accept their certified (aka more expensive) solutions. That would be acceptable too, but give us the option/chance to save the machine if something goes wrong!
 
I don't actually want a new Mini; what I'd rather have is a fully configurable new Mac Pro to suit most customers and budgets. It's just that we know that the new Mac Pro, when it arrives, will have configurable options starting from very expensive and moving up.
I am not sure whether or not I want a new Mac mini, but something tells me that even if by some miracle it will appear in the near future, still I will need to think long and hard about buying it (or not).
 
How "large" of a Mini can we tolerate? Do we want onboard or discrete graphics? Do we want more than two ports?
This may be the Mini of the future: http://www.boxx.com/products/workstations/apexx-1

Something considerably smaller than this beast would be nice - I recognize would lose a lot of power. Say, like twice the height of a current Mac Mini.

Link was supposed to be of my current desktop. I guess I lost dropbox image sharing privileges.
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I don't actually want a new Mini; what I'd rather have is a fully configurable new Mac Pro to suit most customers and budgets. It's just that we know that the new Mac Pro, when it arrives, will have configurable options starting from very expensive and moving up.
Yup....

You and a good few others who post here hanker after a Mac Pro that they can tweak and tinker with, for mini money...... almost certainly not coming, as you suggest.

Something more humble and suited to the needs of folks who just want to do stuff using macOS and related apps, with minimal hassle, almost certainly is..... sooner or later.
 
For the love of all things holy, just give me a base model with 8GB of RAM and SSD (both user upgrade-able).

PLEASE!

Either that, or tell us the product line is dead so we can finish the grieving process and move on.
 
For the love of all things holy, just give me a base model with 8GB of RAM and SSD (both user upgrade-able).

PLEASE!

Either that, or tell us the product line is dead so we can finish the grieving process and move on.
8 GB RAM is base level on other Macs. The same can certainly be expected on an updated Mac Mini, and is already standard on the current mid and upper tier models.

While laptops across the range and the Mac Pro all come with SSD, on the iMac base models have HDD storage, with SSD available as an option, or standard for models higher up the range. Being a desktop, the Mac Mini will almost certainly echo the storage options of the iMac range, to suit a range of budgets, desires and needs.

Want SSD? Your money, your choice.... even on the current Mac Mini.
 
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Want SSD? Your money, your choice.... even on the current Mac Mini.
Agreed. But the cost (an extra $200 for 256 GB?) and lack of upgradeability of it almost makes it a non-starter.

I suspect what a LOT of us would love, which Apple clearly has no interest in, is a midrange desktop, something in between a Mini and a Pro, which does NOT require buying a display every time. (In other words, basically a desktop form factor machine in the iMac performance class without the head and with some ability to upgrade.) Next best thing, IMO, would be an updated Mini with full eGPU support through TB3 and ideally, at least, easily upgradeable RAM (it's not the form factor -- the 2010/2011/2012 models are *trivial* to add or replace RAM). With USB 3.1/TB3, additional external storage could be added and still be quite fast. But this is not the user Apple wants to capture, hoping we'll either pay for a display we don't need, of go for the Pro, or maybe even the MBP plus eGPU.
 
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Noticed your laptop in your signature. How do you like it? I run a ROG motherboard in my hack and never a problem.

I have no complaints about it. I run it along side an additional 1080p monitor (ASUS as well) and I do gaming regularly with no problems. Sure, it won't run Triple A games with ultra high settings and super high dps but it behaves nicely nonetheless. I also do video editing and graphic design and it behaves fine for what I do. I'm happy with Asus/ROG.

When I switched, I was hoping for a Mini like they used to be...quad core option, dedicated graphics...but as we all know that didn't come, so I started to consider other options. An equivalent spec'd MBP would cost me more than double of the price my ROG. MacOS is nice...but it's not worth an additional 1500€ and so I went back to Windows. Don't know if I'll ever go back, but I still check this thread with curiosity in knowing if the Mini I wanted will ever come...or if any Mini will come at all x)
 
When the Mini was released, in 2005, there were no smartphone, no iPad.

If, they make a new one, what should it be:

A - a base model, 8GB of RAM, SSD... and, one generation behind.

B - a state of the art model, with the latest tech.

C - both, with the usual options.
 
When the Mini was released, in 2005, there were no smartphone, no iPad.
There were smartphones since the 90s. The Nokia Communicator comes to mind. There was also one in the same form factor/design as current smartphones since the early 00s. For the life of me I can't remember model now, but there were some.

JFYI.
 
There were smartphones since the 90s. The Nokia Communicator comes to mind. There was also one in the same form factor/design as current smartphones since the early 00s. For the life of me I can't remember model now, but there were some.

JFYI.

Blackberry was insanely popular prior to the iPhone.
 
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