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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Not quite true. This thread started in 2013 and a new Mini was announced about 4600 posts into it.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...rtainly-coming.1681773/page-186#post-20107632
And the disappointment and angst currently permeating this thread, started almost immediately there after.Not quite true. This thread started in 2013 and a new Mini was announced about 4600 posts into it.
Air is limited to the same 4k over HDMI as the mini or MBP or rMB... CPU benches are already posted and its clear which has the upper hand.
From apple support
With OS X Yosemite v10.10.3, most single-stream 4K (3840x2160) displays are supported at 60Hz operation on the following Mac computers:
- MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015)
- MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014)
- Mac Pro (Late 2013)
- iMac (27-inch, Late 2013 and later)
- Mac mini (Late 2014)
- MacBook Air (Early 2015)
- MacBook (Retina, 12-inch, Early 2015)
That information is false. The Mac Mini cannot do 4k @ 60Hz. Max is 4K @ an unusable 30Hz, regardless of output method.
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204292
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Not necessarily. He could have easily been referring to the 2014 unit that is still being sold.
Not quite true. This thread started in 2013 and a new Mini was announced about 4600 posts into it.
Wasn't really that new, more like it was tweaked, and the drive slot disappeared. Hardly a new model.
Just like most updates then, evolutionary rather than revolutionary.
The 2014 model saw an update in connectivity, the arrival of the 1.4 GHz processor model (lower priced but, with turbo boost, similar performance in use to the previous base model), and the dropping of the quad core model that some like to squeal about.
2014 was also when iWork was included with all new Macs at no extra cost, and it was announced that there would be no charge for OSX updates.
The optical drive was dropped several years previously; in 2010 for the server model, and across the range in 2011.
Methinks, after more than three years, the new Mac Mini will almost certainly come with more significant changes than most previous updates, but it will still not be the computer that a vociferous few desire.
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Nope..... new Mac Minis will almost certainly continue to come, albeit less frequently than in days of yore.Over 10,000 comments, almost 1.5 million views, and still no sign of a new Mac Mini
Time to change the name of the thread?
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Not easily; actually, not at all.
Tim Cook said Apple loves the mini. He said it was “not time to share details” but they “do plan for Mac mini to be an important part of our product line going forward.”
They love the mini, so they’re never going to update it? Doesn’t make sense.
Not time to share details about what? A 2014 product? Doesn’t make sense.
It’s not important now, but they do plan for the 2014 model to be an important part of the product line going forward? Doesn’t make sense.
There’s only one logical way to read the statement, and it’s not, “Apple loves the mini so much they’re never going to refresh it, but someday they’ll announce that a three year old model is going to be an important part of a future lineup.”
If Apple had no plans for a refreshed mini, Cook would have simply ignored the email asking about it. He has better things to do than lie to customers about Apple’s future plans.
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Tim Cook was kind of put in a corner. He had to say something. And what he said meant nothing. No new mini ever. But here is a nice new super pro iPad. With mouse support! Yeah, keep dreaming folks, never gonna happen. Apple has lost their way on their own road.
They love it so much they haven't updated it in nearly 4 years. It's obviously just perfect as it is.Maybe it was like, "I love you... but I don't love you."
They don't love it as much as the Mac Pro, though.
I’d guess that in the beginning of this decade, there was a single small dev group for headless macs. After making 2011mini, they made nMP, at the same time small adjustments to mini and after nMP was done, small downgrade to mini and then the group was disbanded.
Then, last year, Apple regrouped headless mac team and they are now working on mMP. When mMP is finished, they move to mini2019. So, I predict that there won’t be simultaneous launch for next MP & mini.
Then, last year, Apple regrouped headless mac team and they are now working on mMP. When mMP is finished, they move to mini2019. So, I predict that there won’t be simultaneous launch for next MP & mini.
Looking at the iMac Pro with its relatively generous base spec, I wonder if Apple could launch a Mini range that started at the $1500 mark but was just a dual core machine with Thunderbolt 3, 16Gb RAM and 512Gb SSD? In other words, with higher base specs?
The payoff would be having accessible slots for RAM and SSD to favour the DIY guys who feel they need to be able to replace faulty parts or increase their own storage. The BTO order book for the non hobbyists would include just storage bumps to 1Tb SSD to keep the parts list down.
If they had to they could retain a bog basic 2014 for the cheapskates just like the MBA and 2015 MacBook Pros still exist but it could mean that Apple could then go for a quad core $2000 headless Mac with the Intel+Radeon GPU combination to shut most of us up here.
The difference here with earlier speculations is Apple keep the poverty spec 2014 base model to justify a new model based on just one motherboard.
The payoff would be having accessible slots for RAM and SSD to favour the DIY guys who feel they need to be able to replace faulty parts or increase their own storage. The BTO order book for the non hobbyists would include just storage bumps to 1Tb SSD to keep the parts list down.
If they had to they could retain a bog basic 2014 for the cheapskates just like the MBA and 2015 MacBook Pros still exist but it could mean that Apple could then go for a quad core $2000 headless Mac with the Intel+Radeon GPU combination to shut most of us up here.
The difference here with earlier speculations is Apple keep the poverty spec 2014 base model to justify a new model based on just one motherboard.
Marvelous ... strategic planning to end up 2-years or so behind the curve (which realistically may match common 5K adoption rates) but still the expectation by then will be spending $7000 to be current for a moment in time laced with high expenditure vs useable life - in the Apple kingdom.
Frankly by then - I will have moved to whichever platform keeps the value to expense ratio the highest as deemed necessary in that timeframe.... or perhaps the 2022 IoT home network will be like the web ... platform independent making the addition of a Windows machine a non-event.
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Intel is having enough trouble gaining widespread support for Thunderbolt 3 without complicating matters with yet another iteration. There’s no evidence of a Thunderbolt 4, but I’m sure it will happen someday.
Intel’s just-announced Titan Ridge TB3 chip supports DP1.4, which allows connection to 8K@60Hz 10-bit displays.
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I think Apple has poisoned all your minds of what value is. And I don't mean nothing personal to anyone who posts in this thread but really what you end up doing is paying a thousand dollars for an OS on maybe at the most a $1000 computer.
IMHO macOS is not worth the sacrifice you all are paying to fall years behind in technology and then pay a premium on top for stagnate OS.
Certainly poisoned my mind with the Mini after buying the top-tier machines and succumbing to power supply failures, drive failures or obsolescence. The Mini has spoiled me both in terms of its service window and overall performance vs price. At this point I'd pay double what I paid for my 2012 Mini to have a machine up to current standards.
I admit I'll pay more for an Apple product but that's another story.
I just picked up an 2.5 GHz i5 mini (mid 2011) off eBay for a pretty good price. Came with a Radeon GPU and 8 GB RAM. Its not going to be my main system, but I'm glad to have it nonetheless. It will replace my hackintosh so its good to have a real Mac again. Last Mac I had bought before that was an iBook G4. LOL. Two months later Apple announced their move to Intel. So... I've paid the Apple tax, and won't be paying it again. From here on out will just pick up a refurb off eBay when I need a "new" Apple.
So, I have a question about this 2011 Mini. It came with a 500 GB Apple HDD. I am planning on swapping that out with a 1TB WD Black HDD, but it appears from what I've seen I could actually install a second HDD into the little box? Is this true? Its build like a watch, and so I'd rather not have to take it apart twice if I can help it.
Anyone? Will a mid-2011 mini support a second internal hard disk drive?
He didn't technically lie to anyone. He used corporate double-speak meant to confuse gullible people who can't read between the lines.
Fact: Tim Cook said absolutely nothing about a new Mac Mini ever being released after the 2014 edition. He could have easily confirmed a new Mac Mini would be released, but he deliberately chose not to. Ask yourself why he chose his words so carefully.
There will be a new Mac Pro. We know this because Apple stated so... bluntly, without corporate double-speak. They could have easily confirmed there would be a new Mac Mini as well, but they didn't.
There is no guarantee there will ever be a new Mac Mini. Period.
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That is a Mac Pro replacement. Nothing to do with the Mac Mini. The Mini has always been an entry-level product for entry-level consumers. When people start throwing around $1500 starting prices, we aren't talking about a Mini anymore.
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I’d put Fusion Drive in there. Like I did to my sister’s 2011 and my 2012. Just remember not to use sshd as hdd part. Like I did.
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What’s to be gained by trying to trick mini fans into waiting for a refresh that will never be?
If it’s never going to be updated, Apple would be perfectly happy to sell customers an iMac, MacBook, MacBook Air or MacBook Pro. And Apple gets a sale.
Cook said it was “not time to share details” but they “do plan for Mac mini to be an important part of our product line going forward.” Don’t try to read between the lines, just read what he wrote.
What part of Apple’s “plan for Mac mini to be an important part of [their] product line going forward” makes you think the mini will never again be updated?
I’m willing to take Cook’s words at face value, while you think he’s trying to deliberately mislead (for what reason?) mini fans using “corporate double-speak meant to confuse gullible people”.
Only time will tell who’s right.