Seems pretty clear to me that the reason Apple doesn't upgrade the Mini is because they just don't care about it, in spite of a vague statement in an e-mail that one of Tim Cook's assistants (or bots?) sent to some guy.... 
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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It would have a huge impact on margins. Right now, the 8GB/SSD mini is $899, and you want to cut that to $499!
The alternative to a $499 HDD mini isn’t a $499 SSD mini. It’s an $899 SSD mini. Apple makes almost nothing on the $499 mini, and the component cost of HDD vs SSD is irrelevant. Apple needs to get the selling price into the $800-900 range for them to get the margins they need.
Personally I always recommend spending an extra $100 to get 8GB. I think the 2018 base mini will have 8GB, so maybe it will start at $599. But it won’t have an SSD at that price. Maybe a 128GB or 1TB Fusion at $799, I think that’s about as low as we can expect.
I'm sure your mom loves looking at the spinning beachball.
Did you upgrade her to High Sierra? If so, I highly doubt she doesn't notice a thing wrong.
What year are you living in? SSDs are not luxury items. This isn’t 2009. And I don’t remember the Mac Mini increasing in price when the base model moved from 2gb to 4gb RAM in 2012. Ditto for the Air when it moved from 4gb to 8gb.
If you’d have been posting here in 2012, you’d be claiming the 2012 mini was going to cost $900.
I think Tim Cook still thinks like a COO more than CEO when it comes to product line-ups. So he keeps things like Mac Mini / iMacs with HDDs and the MacBook Air around because people still buy them. Probably not many, but if sales were truly zero, then it would no longer be in the line-up.
I think that Steve Jobs would have eventually just said "all Macs are Fusion / SSD, Retina and 8GB" and he'd either have had Tim negotiate deals to get the SSDs and 8GB at the same price as the HDDs and 4GB or he would have just raised the retail price $100-200 to cover it.
I think that Steve Jobs would have eventually just said "all Macs are Fusion / SSD, Retina and 8GB" and he'd either have had Tim negotiate deals to get the SSDs and 8GB at the same price as the HDDs and 4GB or he would have just raised the retail price $100-200 to cover it.
PickUr wrote in 12077 above:
" Apple makes almost nothing on the $499 mini..."
Ahem.
Unless you have access to inside information, how do you know what "Apple makes" on the base model Mini?
I'd reckon they're earning a modest profit on sales of even that one.
" Apple makes almost nothing on the $499 mini..."
Ahem.
Unless you have access to inside information, how do you know what "Apple makes" on the base model Mini?
I'd reckon they're earning a modest profit on sales of even that one.
The Pro is announced for 2019 launch, I'm sure this will include the Mini if it still exists.
Hahahah. How about a pro-mini?
I'm personally sick of having to toss out my monitor every few years, as it's attached to my iMac.
About that 2018 Mini...nothing to see here. Move along now.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-revamped-mac-pro-to-launch-in-2019.2113685/
At least the guy was honest, the real reason for this "transparency" is to sell more iMac Pro's.
"In addition to transparency for pro customers on an individual basis, there's also a larger fiscal reasoning behind it."
Just looked through a few of the comments on that story, but was surprised at how many people asked "what about the Mini?"
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-revamped-mac-pro-to-launch-in-2019.2113685/
At least the guy was honest, the real reason for this "transparency" is to sell more iMac Pro's.
"In addition to transparency for pro customers on an individual basis, there's also a larger fiscal reasoning behind it."
Just looked through a few of the comments on that story, but was surprised at how many people asked "what about the Mini?"
They probably didn't fight hard enough to get their budget approved for this year.
I'd say that there's a largish group that's interested in headless desktop systems across a wide range of capabilities. Common core of desires are (1) headless, (2) DIY expandable, (3) a decent upgrade tempo, and (4) a sense that the vendor gives a crap about their products and customers. Thin and stylishly elegant, not so much.
The Mac Mini will let me switch completely over from Windows, but right now the iMac's screen is too small as i'm on a 34" widescreen and this is connected to my Macbook Pro. A Mac Mini would be better for my battery and workflow
What do you think about this concept of new mac mini:
https://www.behance.net/gallery/64103537/Mac-mini-2018-concept
https://www.behance.net/gallery/64103537/Mac-mini-2018-concept
Perhaps you should read of others use of a more expensive MAc Mini - https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-rainbow-wheel.2113649/
And I'm sure the "headless desktop team" will start designing new mini, when the new MP's design is finished.
Good night's fairy tail:
"There was these last two old geeks, who were the only ones responsible for developing new headless macs. At 2013 Apple had this very secret project about hover sneakers and they needed more manpower to design matching laces for watch bands. After finishing the trashcan, these two old geeks were accidentally locked in a basement and as Jony didn't approve hover sneaker's design, geeks were forgotten to the basement. When headquaters moved, geeks were found with 500 amazing shoe lace designs. Timmy felt bad when he had to tell them that sneakers were abandoned 5 years ago. So, he decided that geeks could design new headless macs. So they started working..."
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4 tb3 ports?
What chip inside would allow this?
Four Thunderbolt 3 ports is wishful thinking. There's a slight chance a mini with four Thunderbolt 3 ports would make it compelling enough to eat into iMac Pro sales, and Apple can't have that...
Otherwise it's a good concept, like the 2010 unibody design fused with the earlier glass-top design but for a more modern aesthetic. Only problem is that it looks like the IR sensor is missing, and this is one of the reasons the Mac mini still makes a great HTPC.
The same chips in the 15" MBPs. Two TB3 controllers each, so you can get 40 Gbps combined for the left two and again for the right two.
As long as there's a 4GB spinner model then we're talking. Otherwise don't call us.
I can't believe I have gone from wanting a new mac Mini, then buying a computer, selling it due to moving 2 years later, and then wanting a Mac Mini. Seriously Apple. To me you are like a girlfriend I should have given up on 4 years ago. Somebody beat some sense into me. I will visit home Canada in June and I will have the chance to order a System 76 to carry back home (THA) with me. Anybody have experience with Shipping a System 76 product to Canada?
Or maybe something like this: http://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/desktops/alienware-alpha/spd/alienware-alpha-r2-desktop
Or maybe something like this: http://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/desktops/alienware-alpha/spd/alienware-alpha-r2-desktop
Anyone else feel the urging need to pressure apple to upgrade the Mac mini and force them to take notice?
IDEA:
Someone lay down a great 160 character note that'll fit into a twitter post with a hashtag and then we can BOMBARD Tim Cook, Phil Schiller, AppleSupport all on twitter. and I don't mean here and there ... but say at a specific set of times during the business day! Say even just 100 members in this thread do this for 9AM, 12PM and 4PM EST or Pacific time at once! All separate posts!!
This will ...
a) cause a trend that others will see on twitter,
b) potentially get more attention and replies - don't reply to any not from an official Apple employees account. maybe even news coverage.
c) maybe attach a photo with location enabled of your local Apple store that STILL showcases and sells the 2014 MacMini - if it is even that one vs a 2012 (lord forbid as that was the sweet spot model) and maybe another pic of a fan design you want to have.
d) finally maybe a damn official response from even 1 of those Apple executives and continue to get a time frame and have Apple openly and admittedly commit to it. No more delayed BS like what they've just done with the Mac Pro ... which was SUPPOSED to be 2018 and now it's 2019.
Hon Hai, and other manufacturers and supply chain companies all in partnership with Apple should NEVER have any delays. That was the entire reason Apple's sources 2+ companies for a single component.
What do you all think about this idea to make it a plan!?
IDEA:
Someone lay down a great 160 character note that'll fit into a twitter post with a hashtag and then we can BOMBARD Tim Cook, Phil Schiller, AppleSupport all on twitter. and I don't mean here and there ... but say at a specific set of times during the business day! Say even just 100 members in this thread do this for 9AM, 12PM and 4PM EST or Pacific time at once! All separate posts!!
This will ...
a) cause a trend that others will see on twitter,
b) potentially get more attention and replies - don't reply to any not from an official Apple employees account. maybe even news coverage.
c) maybe attach a photo with location enabled of your local Apple store that STILL showcases and sells the 2014 MacMini - if it is even that one vs a 2012 (lord forbid as that was the sweet spot model) and maybe another pic of a fan design you want to have.
d) finally maybe a damn official response from even 1 of those Apple executives and continue to get a time frame and have Apple openly and admittedly commit to it. No more delayed BS like what they've just done with the Mac Pro ... which was SUPPOSED to be 2018 and now it's 2019.
Hon Hai, and other manufacturers and supply chain companies all in partnership with Apple should NEVER have any delays. That was the entire reason Apple's sources 2+ companies for a single component.
What do you all think about this idea to make it a plan!?
Hmmm- since an iPhone SE is just about as powerful as a Mac Mini (and the iPhone X blows its doors off) - that render concept is WAY too big. The old Mac mini was the size it was to be able to fit CDs & DVDs. That's no longer necessary. If Apple ever does make another Mac mini -,it's gunna be itsy bits tiny.
I think you mean the old Mini was big due to the heat sink (the case) and the jet engine fan to cool the Intel chip from overheating. ARM chips don't have that problem.