Apple's Revamped Mac Pro to Launch in 2019

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    Apple's redesigned, modular Mac Pro aimed at professionals is set to launch in 2019, according to an update Apple recently provided to TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino, who took a trip to the company's Cupertino campus.

    The team responsible for revamping Apple's pro product efforts was there to provide updated details both on the Mac Pro and how Apple is shaping it to meet the needs of real professional users.

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    Apple's current Mac Pro​

    Employees in the meeting included John Ternus, VP of Hardware Engineering, Tom Boger, Senior Director of Mac Hardware Marketing, Jud Coplan, Director of video Apps Product Marketing, and Xander Soren, Director of Music Apps Product Marketing.

    Panzarino was told in no uncertain terms that the Mac Pro will not be arriving before 2019 as the product is still in development. From Tom Boger:
    Apple wants customers to know that the Mac Pro isn't coming in 2018 so those who are planning to make a purchase decision for a pro machine like the iMac Pro won't hold off in the hopes of a Mac Pro materializing later in the year.

    In the time since Apple announced major changes for the next-generation Mac Pro last year, it has put together a "Pro Workflow Team" led by John Ternus, where employees who focus on pro-level products all work together.

    Apple has also been hiring award-winning artists and technicians in an effort to understand the real workflows that creative professionals use to better tailor its products to them. The individuals shoot real projects and then use Apple's hardware and software to find "sticking points that could cause frustration and friction" for pro users.

    Apple's Pro Workflow Team finds and addresses the issues that come up, even down to tiny details like tweaking a graphics driver, and it's not just Apple's products that benefit - the company's employees are also working with third-party apps. From Tom Bogar, senior Mac marketing director:
    The Pro Workflow team, in addition to improving current Apple products, is also an essential part of Mac Pro development. Their work is "definitely influencing" what Apple's planning for, with Apple achieving a "much much much deeper understanding" of pro customers, their workflows, and their needs. This understanding is "really informing" the work Apple is doing on the Mac Pro," according to Bogar.

    No details were provided on the shape of the Mac Pro or the internal components that it might include, but Apple is still planning on a modular machine, as announced last year, so plans have not changed. Apple back then said that it was "completely rethinking" the Mac Pro, and that it is "by definition" a modular system. Apple at the time also said a pro display was in development alongside the new machine.

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    A modular Mac Pro concept from Curved.de

    Panzarino says we're not likely to hear any additional detail about the Mac Pro at WWDC in June, and that he expects Apple will keep quiet about the machine until next year.

    Panzarino's full piece on Apple's efforts to tailor the Mac Pro and other pro-level products to meet professional needs, which goes into much greater detail, can be read over at TechCrunch.

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  2. OldSchoolMacGuy macrumors 601

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    Cue the complaints from people that won't be putting down the money to buy a Mac Pro regardless.

    I'm upset about the Ferrari that's far outside of my price range.
     
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    I'm glad they're putting a lot of effort into this. I don't want them to rush it, and it seems like they may actually be choosing function over form this time around.
     
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    Modular as in you can swap in first-party devices after purchase or 3rd party interface modules will be supported? Being apple I predict the former.
     
  7. sputnikBA, Apr 5, 2018
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    2019 makes sense. I'd always assumed it wouldnt launch until Thunderbolt 4 & PCIE 4.0 were ready. The new Mac Pro needs to launch in a way that leaves a lot of technological options open for its users, and launching late into TB3 / PCIe 3.0's life cycles (and right before a launch of TB4 / PCIe 4) with no upgrade path would be a mistake.

    Whats grilling me though, is that they've only seen fit since last year to look into workflow as a basis to build on top of, and frankly that is something that they should have been doing many years ago. It also explains why they have their annoying habit of replacing software with new versions that lack the functionality of older ones -- the most obvious example being FCPX, which is fantastic now, but was released way too early to be a workflow replacement for FCP9 and resulted in the response we all know.

    Acknowledging this does leave me at least hopeful for the future of their Pro hardware & software. Particularly so since I haven't been super confident about long term, especially with these recent rumours of future ARM Macs in 2020 and beyond.
     
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    Man, this sure read like a lot of marketing speak for “we still don’t know what to do with the Mac Pro”
     
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    That’s a shame... not that I could ever afford one lol
     
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    ARM or Intel? Intel of course. Do you buy right before a possible CPU architecture transition? Hopefully we'll know more about Intel -> ARM by the time this Mac Pro is released.
     
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    glad i just upgraded my cpu in my 5,1. willing to wait another year now. although at this point i might be more interested in a mini depending on specs. I hope they have people from the gaming community on the teams as well. There is an akward void between the non pro and pro machines where a decent gaming mac could sit. studios will not port/write games if there isn't sufficient hardware. i think egpu's will help though
     
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    Nice... I just bought a used 2013 model for $2k.

    I was worried they would update it THIS year.... but I figured they'd let the new iMac Pro have at least a year in the limelight.

    By the time this hits the stores (late 2019 I'm sure), I'll be happy to upgrade again.
     
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    I'm guessing this will include the Mac Mini too. It makes sense to create a Mac that if bare boned can be used as a Mini and built up to a Pro.
     
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    The more they talk like that about Pro and artists in the same breath the more it seems they use Pro to mean video editor.
     
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    "Fiscal reasoning"
     
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    For whatever it's worth, since the article is a bit hazy on it, it was never explicitly promised for 2018; just as "not this year" (where "this" at the time was 2017):

    So Apple gave themselves an out for not having to ship it in 2018.
     
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    Just need a nice looking, simple, tower. It's pretty clear from that article that Apple are heading in another direction. I don't have faith that the new Mac Pro is going to be what I'm after.
     
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    As long as it is designed with the future/expandability in mind, then 2019 isn’t that far away. I’d rather the product be late than Apple to offer something that is limited.
     
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    So fully 6 years between them by 2019, that's crazy to think of the gap left. That a very long time in silicon terms.

    The "pro workflow team" is encouraging. I'm hoping for myself it allows a lot of min/maxing, not fixed to relatively high end hardware on all parts like the iMac Pro. I need a lot of CPU for data science, but a GPU goes entirely unused, so I wouldn't need Navi Pro with HBM2 adding to the cost.
     
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    *Boardroom filled with Pro Workflow Team members, all thinking hard*
    "Guys... get this... what if we let the customers... upgrade the RAM... themselves?"

    *head explodes*
     
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    I still want a 17" MacBook Pro laptop. 30" iMac Pro, or 30" iMac. Also 30", 32" or 34" screens. User upgradable memory, processors, graphics cards, and user upgradable HDs. I guess I have as much chance of wining the lottery than Apple giving what customers want.
     
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    Bizarre to imagine the development gap in-between 2013 to 2019 for the pro users... Unacceptable.
     

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