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Though, would someone tell me why Zarek was de facto President?

As mentioned, it was because he was the VP under Baltar and with Baltar one the Basestar, he ascended to the presidency.

We will have to see if Roslin does indeed nominate Zarek to be her VP.
 
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We will have to see if Roslin does indeed nominate Zarek to be her VP.

Yes, especially now that she knows of his actions regarding the Circle and so forth. Yet, I think deep down, she knows that Zarek was going about it the right way, like it or not. And it's not like she is without corruption and a dark side as well... ;) :cool:
 
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When you think about it Baltar hasn't really got it too bad being stuck on a Basestar. I mean who would'nt like being surrounded by 6's and Lucy Lawless for the rest of their lives? ;) Can't wait to find out how things are going to work out for the pill popp'n Giaus B
What I would like to know is did anyone else see the preview at the end of one of the webisodes where Baltar asks the question " Am I a Cylon? " ?
I cant be bothered going back and watching them to find out if I really saw that (sometimes I can get confused usually after a couple of bourbons) . :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
What I would like to know is did anyone else see the preview at the end of one of the webisodes where Baltar asks the question " Am I a Cylon? " ?
I cant be bothered going back and watching them to find out if I really saw that (sometimes I can get confused usually after a couple of bourbons) . :confused: :confused: :confused:

Yep, you weren't imagining things. It was a clip from a future episode, however the context of it is unknown so, as with pretty much everything of that nature in BSG, you have to take it with a grain of salt. ;)
 
Yep, you weren't imagining things. It was a clip from a future episode, however the context of it is unknown so, as with pretty much everything of that nature in BSG, you have to take it with a grain of salt. ;)

Mmmm, but it also goes back to a number of previous episodes. There was an extended subplot around the time that Gaius invented the "cylon detector" in which he thought that he might be a Cylon. I forget how he finally concludes that he is not a Cylon... I think maybe the Caprica Six in his head convinces him he isn't, but I'm not sure.

It would be fracking awesome if he did turn out to be one of the models we haven't seen yet. :D It would be an amazing explanation for why the visions he sees of Six give him information. Also it would just be sweet because I love it when Cylons frack with people. :eek: :D
 
It would be fracking awesome if he did turn out to be one of the models we haven't seen yet. :D

Yeah, I guess this could happen, but the events of the pilot episode wouldn't really make sense anymore. Why would it be necessary for Six to coerce Baltar into giving him access to the defense mainframe if he could just have been programmed to do so? In fact, why use Six at all if Baltar could himself have been programmed to alter the colonial defenses?
 
It would be fracking awesome if he did turn out to be one of the models we haven't seen yet. :D It would be an amazing explanation for why the visions he sees of Six give him information. Also it would just be sweet because I love it when Cylons frack with people. :eek: :D

I just wonder if the other Cylon models we haven't seen will be introduced like Lucy Lawless, though. Where you won't find out until the end of an episode that a new character is a Cylon. Although I'm sure at least one more of the regular cast is a Cylon - otherwise it will be sort of the reverse of a Red Shirt crewman on the original Star Trek who beams down to the planet and is the first one to die. Any new main characters introduced at this point will be under suspicion of being Cylon until proven not to be :D

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Any new main characters introduced at this point will be under suspicion of being Cylon until proven not to be :D

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There's always been the theory that Ellen Tigh was a Cylon. The characters in Season 1 even accused her of it. I wonder....
 
There's always been the theory that Ellen Tigh was a Cylon. The characters in Season 1 even accused her of it. I wonder....

The whole way she just appeared was odd - and Gaius tested her when he had a working version of the Cylon detector, but wouldn't tell if she was Cylon or not to the 6 in his head.

I always suspected it - and the great thing is that if it is true, think how its going to mess with Col. Tigh? It could force him into a long trip to the dark side - really good potential there for fun :D

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I just wonder if the other Cylon models we haven't seen will be introduced like Lucy Lawless, though. Where you won't find out until the end of an episode that a new character is a Cylon. Although I'm sure at least one more of the regular cast is a Cylon - otherwise it will be sort of the reverse of a Red Shirt crewman on the original Star Trek who beams down to the planet and is the first one to die.

Yeah, I agree. I thought the very same thing when Dean Stockwell first appeared. It will be interesting to see how they introduce further models...

How about this - the mother who reclaimed Casey is a Cylon, along with Casey. :eek: :D She did come out of nowhere to find her, and what are the odds? ;)

The whole way she just appeared was odd - and Gaius tested her when he had a working version of the Cylon detector, but wouldn't tell if she was Cylon or not to the 6 in his head.

I always suspected it - and the great thing is that if it is true, think how its going to mess with Col. Tigh? It could force him into a long trip to the dark side - really good potential there for fun :D

I was thinking the same thing. What a shock it would be to see Ellen appear again - man, what that would do to Saul... :eek: And yes, her initial appearance was very suspicious, how she was "miraculously saved" during the initial attack and ended up on one of the surviving ships (what are the odds?) but that's one of the things I love about the show - it makes you think, second-guess yourself and be suspicious/clueless just like everyone on board. :cool:

If Ellen were indeed a Cylon, the neat piece of irony would be that she helped the Cylons on NC of her own will, essentially - it's not like she was programmed to betray them, she was actually acting of her own volition and love for Saul.

All this being said though, I do not think that Ellen is a Cylon. That would make the whole "relationship" with Brother Cavell just, well, weird... ;)
 
Could be that the other Cylons have been boxed up for reasons unknown to us. And now that Giaus is a guest of the Cylons he might start manipulating them into thinking and feeling more human.
 
Could be that the other Cylons have been boxed up for reasons unknown to us. And now that Giaus is a guest of the Cylons he might start manipulating them into thinking and feeling more human.

Good Point Joepunk but I honestly don't think that he is an actual Cylon however in the origonal series he is a traitor to the human race so maybe this is where he fulfills his true role as the ingenious backstabber to his own race .
 
My money's on Colonel Tigh! :eek: ;) :D (j/k)

Yes, I think there must be more Cylons among the humans. I'm really excited about this season.... BSG is just getting better and better. :)

Hell yeah!!!! In my opinion BSG is the best show to ever be rewritten like I said earlier if this show where a drug I would be it's biggest junky. ;) ;)
 
Good Point Joepunk but I honestly don't think that he is an actual Cylon however in the origonal series he is a traitor to the human race so maybe this is where he fulfills his true role as the ingenious backstabber to his own race .
As long as we get to see Lucifer and his glowing transparent head, I'll be happy :D
 
Good Point Joepunk but I honestly don't think that he is an actual Cylon however in the origonal series he is a traitor to the human race so maybe this is where he fulfills his true role as the ingenious backstabber to his own race .

Oh the beautiful irony if that were the case. The traitor of the human race is actually a Cylon and unknowingly brings the downfall of the Cylon "race" as well. Ingenious. However, as it's been said before, if Baltar were a Cylon they wouldn't have needed Caprica 6 to manipulate and deceive him - they could have just had him access the defense mainframe and give them what they needed.

Although it could explain what Baltar sees 6 in his head and vice versa... ;)
 
I wonder where the rest of the Cylon models are if they aren't on the basestar, the Lawless character mentioned there were three for, three against and the Sixes undecided which leaves seven that are already accounted for elsewhere in the series. There seems to be multiple copies of each known model so where are the rest of the unaccounted ones if they're not on that ship?
 
I wonder where the rest of the Cylon models are if they aren't on the basestar, the Lawless character mentioned there were three for, three against and the Sixes undecided which leaves seven that are already accounted for elsewhere in the series. There seems to be multiple copies of each known model so where are the rest of the unaccounted ones if they're not on that ship?

Just one of the many unknowns in the series I guess. ;) But yeah, I wonder the same thing. Even in the "candid" shots on Caprica in "Downloaded", you'd think more than just those 4 or 5 models (at the time, since Simon wasn't there for some reason nor was Brother Cavell) would be there. On Caprica who would they technically have to hide from? And how come more of them weren't present on New Caprica, that was a pretty big deal after all! And yes, even that vote only accounts for the 7 known models - what about the others? Safely stored away at the Cylon homeworld? Does it have something to do with the Cylon's "plan"? I wonder when we'll meet another model... there's only (supposedly) 5 left. And even there, I don't know why they simply couldn't make more models... So many questions - I love it. :D :cool:
 
Quite obviously you haven't seen the other models because they are a storytelling vehicle. They (the writers) don't know who they are.

As for the other, Simon et al, that's most likely due to scheduling and/or contractual issues. If you can't get the actor to show up...oh well.

And if you looked closely in "Downloaded" you will see a black actor or two in the background, just not their face. Clearly stand ins because the "Simon" actor wasn't available.

It just seems silly to assign some great mystery to what is simply part of the reality of writing/filming/producing a weekly television show.

If Ron Moore and crew really wanted to be realistic they could enumerate all the models now and show them...but then that'd just cripple any mystery that hangs in the "who is a Cylon?" sub-plot of BSG that they use to whip viewers in a frenzy. Plus then you have to lock 12 actors into a contract, etc.... It just isn't feasible.
 
The whole way she just appeared was odd - and Gaius tested her when he had a working version of the Cylon detector, but wouldn't tell if she was Cylon or not to the 6 in his head.
Beyond "Boomer" turning RED!, it seemed clear that Gaius never ran any further Cyclon detection tests.

Everyone passes.

Everyone.
 
Quite obviously you haven't seen the other models because they are a storytelling vehicle. They (the writers) don't know who they are.

It just seems silly to assign some great mystery to what is simply part of the reality of writing/filming/producing a weekly television show.

Well yes, of course, I think we were just speaking more in terms of within the show's reality. ;) :)

Beyond "Boomer" turning RED!, it seemed clear that Gaius never ran any further Cyclon detection tests.

Everyone passes.

Everyone.

Yep, sure looks that way.... ;)
 
Seasson shortened by 5 episodes? NBC again?

This article claims the season has been shortened by 5 episodes. Any truth to this? I assume when he says season pass he's refering to iTunes. Anyone get notice of refunds for the shorter season? I don't know about the NBC thing. It's been denied all month.
 
This article claims the season has been shortened by 5 episodes. Any truth to this? I assume when he says season pass he's refering to iTunes. Anyone get notice of refunds for the shorter season? I don't know about the NBC thing. It's been denied all month.

Good find, thanks for posting this. Not sure what to make of it... NBC would no doubt want to water down the violence, political incorrectness and overall "darkness", wouldn't they? Or cut the above average budget? :( Don't know if this is a good thing...

Regardless, I don't want to be deprived of 5 episodes! :eek: ;)
 
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