Are we sure he's the VP?
After the runin with Roslyn and Adama it seemed like a foregone conclusion that Zarek wasn't going to be her VP.
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After the runin with Roslyn and Adama it seemed like a foregone conclusion that Zarek wasn't going to be her VP.
I took it for granted when Roslyn was announcing her pardon, he was front and center in the crowd and they exchanged a Meaningful Look. She was obviously President at that point and had already cut the deal with Zarek for the VP slot before he told her about the Circle. I don't think she'd back out on that deal since Zarek was acting with best intentions even if in a misguided way, and she already gave him Kudos for standing up to Baltar on New Caprica. I think he's the new VP, though I suppose next week's episode will clarify this one way or the other.
Besides, having Zarek as VP, I think, would provide many more interesting plot points than having him as a member of the Council of 12 again. He's definitely more willing to deal with legally questionable groups and practices than Roslyn, so it should add a lot of spice to the administration. My $.02.
[Edit/Offtopic]: BTW, when does your location change from Kushiel's Scion to Kushiel's Justice?
Yeah, I think it's a great thematic element that the writers have done with the pairs of characters who have some life similarities but make different decisions with different consequences... like Tigh and Starbuck, Boomer/Sharon/Athena and Caprica Six, Zarek and Gaeta, Roslin and Baltar, Cain and Adama, Tyrol and Agathon, and so on.
Or read Dune.The hybrid. Methinks someone watched "Minority Report" and "The Matrix" one too many times...
Although Dune never hinted that the Guild Navigators enjoyed their job QUITE so much.
Ah, the Harkonnen and Atreides... good times...
That's exactly what I thought when watching it. It's cool to reference Dune in your sci-fi though. Even Star Wars has a dead sandworm in it
I thought the spice-guzzling seer in the season premiere was fairly Duney too (not in a bad way). And the humans have something of Butlerian Jihad going on, which Baltar speaks against when interviewed in the miniseries.That's exactly what I thought when watching it. It's cool to reference Dune in your sci-fi though. Even Star Wars has a dead sandworm in it
The Battlestar Galactica itself is a giant Cylon. As is Earth.
There are no Cylons, and there is no Battlestar Galactica. It's all a projection existing inside Gaius Baltar's deranged mind in a hospital bed somewhere.
There are no Cylons, and there is no Battlestar Galactica. It's all a projection existing inside Gaius Baltar's deranged mind in a hospital bed somewhere.
Yeah, it's all just a dream...
What I found interesting is that 6 told Gaius on the Base Star to "never ask about the other 5, ever!"
You have to wonder what/who they are and why it would be a topic never to bring up.
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You have to wonder what/who they are and why it would be a topic never to bring up.
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A thing that I found interesting was the statement from D'Anna "Yes we've decided that Earth is going to be our new home", what's wrong with their old home (we've never seen it), did they get kicked out by the final five (civil war maybe, pro versus anti war Cylons).
Yes, I think this is very interesting... also there seems to be more and more evidence being revealed of dissent and control issues within the Cylon -- in addition to the arguments between the biological models we've met, we know that they have to use special programming to prevent the mechanicals such as the Centurions from harming them (mentioned a few episodes ago) and also now that the hybrids do not see eye-to-eye with them and that they override the opinions of the hybrids (e.g. choosing to jump away from the dying basestar).
It's a very nice Golem story... the agony of the created in their fate... they want desparately to be better than the flawed ones who created them but within their own creation are these very seeds of dissent and discord that ultimately cause them pain.
Yes, this almost implies that the other 5 are not simply 5 other Cylon models like them - there seems to be something "special" about them...
Good thought. Perhaps the other 5 Cylons are actually peaceful, and these 7 Cylons we know were banished from their home during a civil war of sorts. They then turned their aggression and revenge towards the 12 Colonies, and in fact, they are acting on their own will, and do not actually represent the wishes or true nature of the "real Cylons", the other 5 peaceful models.
And to really stretch it, perhaps some of our "heroes" on BSG are indeed Cylons - just versions of the other 5 "good" models, which is another reason the renegade Cylons want to destroy them...
Yeah, that last one is a stretch, but I think there could be something to the rest of it. It's fun to speculate...
Plus, why don't they just stay in the twelve colonies? Remember when they went back to get the arrow, and all the corpses had been cleared away? And weren't there several planets?
Seems like a waste of time to run around looking for Earth, and continuously run into the Battlestar Galactica and probably get into some conflict with whoever lives on Earth, when you've got several nice planets just sitting about unused.
I think Sharon(?) said once that the Cylons know more about the religion of the Colonies than the Colonials do, perhaps they know something about that which they're not sharing yet...
And as for the five left that we haven't seen yet, I seem to remember Sharon (Galactica) saying there were eight Cylon agents in the fleet so there's at least one out of the five we know is there somewhere. I take it that the hybrids aren't counted even though they're (mostly) humanoid Cylons.
Thanks, I forgot about the religious thing for a moment.
Eight Cylons in the fleet, or eight models?
As a side note, if this thing keeps happenning over and over, wouldn't they end up pretty inbred after a while, as their genetic pool keeps getting narrowed down?
Sharon said there were eight Cylons, no mention of models.
All Cylons are clones of the original, only their downloaded consciousness would be different from new experience.
They Cylons don't know WHAT they want. They want to be human. They want to be better than human. They want to follow the word of God. They want revenge. They want love. They want scenery. They are deeply messed up.
And she probably made that up under duress. There's no reason to think she suddenly gained Cylon secret data: her human persona doesn't even remember her Cylon actions.
Yeah, you're right, Giaus gave her a countdown to how long the Chief had to live, 10, 9..... eight!, there are eight Cylons.. (so said Sharon).
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