The Official Battlestar Galactica Thread : SPOILERS

[~Shard~]

(kudos ~Shard~)

No worries, my pleasure.

I too keep on wondering what direction the show will take as it seems very bleak at the moment after watching the webisodes, how the heck are 30,000+ people going to escape the clutches of the Cylons, there's no way the fleet could mount a successful military campaign with only a skeleton crew and I can't see the resistance being too successful either

My thoughts as well. I just don't know how they're going to do it, but it will be fun to watch. I wonder how long they will actually be on New Caprica as well - a few episodes, half the season, the full season?

it's going to be interesting these coming months as to how clever the writers really are, it's just got to be plausible as well as entertaining. I hope they haven't painted themselves into a corner

I think this is the key. The writing has truly been one of the strong points of the series for me, so I have faith in it, however I, too, wonder how they will write themselves out of this one. I really hope it is clever and well thought out and not some poorly devised plot devices, twists or deus ex machina and the like.

Who knows? Perhaps the Galactica and Pegasus will get help from the Cylons themselves - perhaps in the past year a Cylon civil war errupted due to the war heroes' beliefs and the other Cylons will find New Caprica and will fight themselves!

I have so many questions right now that need answering, it's killing me! Why did the Cylons say they would go their own ways, not bother the humans, etc., but then come in, invade them and occupy them? What changed? And it's the war heroes who led this invasion as well. Have the Cylons altered their programming and now, instead of destroying the human race, they think it is logical to enslave them, just as they were enslaved initially by their makers? What's their plan?

It is also somewhat depressing to think that the Cylons have no doubt rebuilt themselves over the past year, so all of Galactica's efforts were essentially for not. The Cylons no doubt have a new Resurrection Ship, new Baystars, a replenished fleet, etc. Yikes...

Can't wait for Friday and the first 2 episodes!

 

[leekohler]

There, fixed it for you.

BSG, oh how I loved you. Ron Moore, stumbling in the dark, out of ideas.

I'm *so* looking forward to a season of endless flashbacks to the one missing year.

No you didn't fix it. I thought the ending of season 2 was great and a cool surprise. I can't wait to see what happens. I didn't think it was a misstep, I thought it was brilliant.

 

[HydroMan]

I have so many questions right now that need answering, it's killing me! Why did the Cylons say they would go their own ways, not bother the humans, etc., but then come in, invade them and occupy them? What changed? And it's the war heroes who led this invasion as well. Have the Cylons altered their programming and now, instead of destroying the human race, they think it is logical to enslave them, just as they were enslaved initially by their makers? What's their plan?

Another question being what's the Cylon/Human hybrid going to figure in all of this (hopefully not a Golden child) maybe a bargaining chip, but then Boomer will be none too pleased about this, yes, all these pre season questions make my head spin (or it might be the wine I'm drinking at the mo' )

 

[DISCOMUNICATION]

BSG Newbie

I just got the email today. Season's 1 and 2 are on their way. Looks like I'm gonna have a DVD marathon weekend. I don't have cable, but I caught a few episodes when NBC had a BSG marathon 2 summers ago. I think I've only seen about 5 episode. The season 1 finale and season 2 premiere where the last episodes I saw. I wish NBC would do another marathon. All the networks were doing it this summer. ABC had Kyle XY and now that Anne Hache Alaska show. CBS had the Brotherhood. Hell NBC brought back wrestling one saturday night. Unfortunatly I haven't heard anything.

 

[DZ/015]

Galactica's efforts were essentially for not.

I, too, cannot wait for the new season. However, I feel compelled to point out a glaring error to the grammar bastard. Not should be naught.

 

[joepunk]

Put me in the "I can't fracking wait" category

 

[HydroMan]

I just got the email today. Season's 1 and 2 are on their way. Looks like I'm gonna have a DVD marathon weekend. I don't have cable, but I caught a few episodes when NBC had a BSG marathon 2 summers ago. I think I've only seen about 5 episode. The season 1 finale and season 2 premiere where the last episodes I saw. I wish NBC would do another marathon. All the networks were doing it this summer. ABC had Kyle XY and now that Anne Hache Alaska show. CBS had the Brotherhood. Hell NBC brought back wrestling one saturday night. Unfortunatly I haven't heard anything.

You need to watch the mini series to begin with.

 

[DeepIn2U]

BSG Season 3 FRAKIN' A!

Cant wait although I did miss most of season 2.

Till this day I still loved to watch to 2 hour mini-series opener to this show (this generation). I've watched almost EVERY old gen BSG show with my dad when I was a kid; part of the reason I still call him dad not "my father".

> Dont get me started with iTunes USA not branching out to iTunes Canada for movie/TV show downloads!!! FRAK'n COMMON already!

 

[~Shard~]

However, I feel compelled to point out a glaring error to the grammar bastard. Not should be naught.

Haha, nice one! I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong. And extra bastard points™ to you for pointing that one out!

Till this day I still loved to watch to 2 hour mini-series opener to this show (this generation).

Actually it was just over 3 hours - at least my version is.

 

[Abulia]

See, the problem is, they've taken away the surprises.

Part of the brilliance of BSG was not knowing what would happen the next week on their journey. Plus the show, by and large, was about the journey, not the destination (Earth or New Caprica.)

Now we have a show firmly rooted on a planet where we'll be stuck with resistance fighting stories that are going to draw (eg. mimic) the situation in Iraq. It's going to be pretty easy to see what comes "next." (I'd go into more detail but want to keep this thread spoiler free.)

And flashbacks? Okay, show of hands here...who liked the 3 out of 4 epsiodes in S2.5 where they all involved starting at the ending and showing the epsiode through flashbacks? They. Were. Crap.

You're going to have a good part of S3.0 of the same.

Even the actors have gone on record stating they're not so keen on getting away from the Galactica and the trip to Earth. The writers have confessed that they "hope" they're going to get it right with this new arc. Everything says that Moore and Co. are stumbling about, hoping they've got it right this season.

And where exactly is the Cylon plan?

 

[~Shard~]

First of all, for the record I’m not a “BSG fanboy” who blindly thinks that the writers can do know wrong and the show can never have a bad day, so I don’t want to give you or anyone else that impression. There were a few episodes in the past couple seasons which I didn’t care for as well. That being said, in the spirit of good debate and discussion, I thought I’d reply to your comments...

Part of the brilliance of BSG was not knowing what would happen the next week on their journey. Plus the show, by and large, was about the journey, not the destination (Earth or New Caprica.)

Can’t attempting to settle on a planet be part of the journey? Sure, perhaps to the colonists they were ideally viewing this as a possible permanent move, however we know darn well it won’t be and that at some point New Caprica will be left behind. So, really, this is part of the journey, and in my opinion, beats simply having the entire journey take place in space encountering Cylons every week.

Now we have a show firmly rooted on a planet where we'll be stuck with resistance fighting stories that are going to draw (eg. mimic) the situation in Iraq. It's going to be pretty easy to see what comes "next." (I'd go into more detail but want to keep this thread spoiler free.)

I think having the colonists occupied by the Cylons will add a different element to the drama. As opposed to be chased and hunted by them, now the Cylons are here, plain and simple, and they’re right in everyone’s face. It’s different than fighting them from the cockpit of a Viper, attacking Baystars, firing up the FTL drives...

And although parallels will no doubt be able to be drawn between the Cylon occupation and the Iraq situation, I would compare it more to the Nazi occupation of France, especially with that scene of the Cylon centurions marching down the center of the town – talk about ripped right out of the history books!

As for seeing what’s going to come next, sure, we’ve already seen it in the webisodes – oppression, slavery, torture - those types of concepts. But how bad will it get? When will the fleet save the day? How will they save the day? Many questions exist which will definitely keep things interesting.

And flashbacks? Okay, show of hands here...who liked the 3 out of 4 epsiodes in S2.5 where they all involved starting at the ending and showing the epsiode through flashbacks? They. Were. Crap.

I can’t say that device did much for me either, but I definitely didn’t mind it. In this case though, as opposed to flashing back a few hours or a couple days, we could be flashing back over the past entire year. As I said earlier, frankly, I like the fact that we “don’t know” and that we have a year to figure out. I loved that aspect of Season 1 into Season 2 - my head was spinning trying to piece everything together. Near the end of Season 2 though, I started feeling “comfortable”, that I had a much better handle on things. Now, I’m back to square one in many respects, which I think is cool.

Yes, I realize this makes things a little more “convenient” for the writers, but I don’t really care as long as it makes for great television.

Even the actors have gone on record stating they're not so keen on getting away from the Galactica and the trip to Earth.

Really? From everything I’ve read that actors say this will be the best season ever and they really enjoyed filming it. If you have any links regarding your above comment I’d love to read them for a different perspective.

The writers have confessed that they "hope" they're going to get it right with this new arc. Everything says that Moore and Co. are stumbling about, hoping they've got it right this season.

“Everything”? I don’t think so. I think they’re taking a risk, and I can see where there’s some concern, but I’d like to think that the amazing writing of the previous 2 seasons should provide people with some confidence that Season 3 won’t be a huge letdown.

See, the problem is, they've taken away the surprises.

…

And where exactly is the Cylon plan?

I think you just proved that they haven’t taken all of the surprises away...

If you think that the writers have run out of twists, turns and surprises for the show and that Season 3 will not have any surprises whatsoever, I think you’re sadly mistaken.

Anyway, that’s probably more than my $0.02.

 

[bluebomberman]

See, the problem is, they've taken away the surprises.

I already posted this before, but the first 13 minutes of Season 3 is some of the most intense, frakked up BSG ever.

Check it out for yourself. http://www.scifi.com/firstlook/battlestar_03/ And then tell me you don't want to watch the season premiere.

 

[~Shard~]

I already posted this before, but the first 13 minutes of Season 3 is some of the most intense, frakked up BSG ever.

Check it out for yourself. http://www.scifi.com/firstlook/battlestar_03/ And then tell me you don't want to watch the season premiere.

I actually have made a point not to watch this yet. Believe me, it's very difficult to exercise such self-restraint, but I'm holding out for the actual premiere tomorrow night. If I had to wait any longer though, I'd probably cave...

 

[bluebomberman]

I actually have made a point not to watch this yet. Believe me, it's very difficult to exercise such self-restraint, but I'm holding out for the actual premiere tomorrow night. If I had to wait any longer though, I'd probably cave...

Well, I got it worse. I need to hold off on watching the BSG premiere until I can catch an encore because of the Yankees-Tigers series. So I'm disappearing from this thread for a few days.

Almost kinda wish there were many copies of me...

 

[~Shard~]

Well, I got it worse. I need to hold off on watching the BSG premiere until I can catch an encore because of the Yankees-Tigers series. So I'm disappearing from this thread for a few days.

Almost kinda wish there were many copies of me...

Yeah, I see your sig - harsh! Don't worry, I'll just be torrenting the first 2 episodes myself whether I can watch them or not...

 

[Abulia]

Well, if anything I think it's a testament that BSG -- or any other show -- gets people riled up and talking about it. I liked the original BSG and I loved the first season-and-a-half of the remake. Different strokes for different folks.

I'd love to provide the link, but I don't have it handy. It was Jamie "Apollo" Bamber who openly spoke out against the resistance arc.

It was Ron Moore who openly confessed that they (the writers) have a fair amount of concern that they "made the right decision" sticking S3 on New Caprica and delving into the resistance.

Between that and stories like the fact that "Downloaded" -- one of the best epsiodes of S2 -- was something of a last-minute idea that nearly got cut, gives credence (to me) that the writers are kinda making this up as they go.

:shrug:

Oh, and re: the Cylon plan. No, there's no surprise left. They've abandoned it. For two seasons the Cylons "have had a plan." Now the Cylon leadership is in turmoil and, apparently, they've "got a new plan." Well goodie for them, considering how the old one was swept under the carpet.

 

[~Shard~]

Well, if anything I think it's a testament that BSG -- or any other show -- gets people riled up and talking about it. I liked the original BSG and I loved the first season-and-a-half of the remake. Different strokes for different folks.

Yep, fair enough - and I'm by no means attacking you and saying you're wrong, just putting forth some good debate.

I'd love to provide the link, but I don't have it handy. It was Jamie "Apollo" Bamber who openly spoke out against the resistance arc.

It was Ron Moore who openly confessed that they (the writers) have a fair amount of concern that they "made the right decision" sticking S3 on New Caprica and delving into the resistance.

Interesting, thanks. Yeah, obviously the jury is out on how this story arc will work out. Only time will tell... well, the fans will dictate the success in the end...

Between that and stories like the fact that "Downloaded" -- one of the best epsiodes of S2 -- was something of a last-minute idea that nearly got cut, gives credence (to me) that the writers are kinda making this up as they go.

Very good point - I loved "Downloaded" as well and when I found out that it was almost cut, that kind of surprised me as well.

Oh, and re: the Cylon plan. No, there's no surprise left. They've abandoned it. For two seasons the Cylons "have had a plan." Now the Cylon leadership is in turmoil and, apparently, they've "got a new plan." Well goodie for them, considering how the old one was swept under the carpet.

Fair enough. But perhaps we've never really known what their true plan is, we only think we have! Yeah, only half-serious on that one, but still, there are many unanswered questions and I'm confident Season 3 will have quite a few surprises in it. After all, we still have 5 more Cylons to discover if I've counted correctly!

Thanks again for the comments.

 

[DISCOMUNICATION]

one more day

You need to watch the mini series to begin with.

In the states season 1 comes with the miniseries. I checked. Lots of complaints on Amazon from people who already bought the miniseries. The only place that you can get season 1 without the miniseries in the US is Best Buy. I think it's the UK version only region 1 or region free.

 

[leekohler]

OK- so I'm going to a friend's place to watch the premier tomorrow night. Now I won't be tempted to come in here and read the spoilers.

 

[NeoMac]

Not sure if this has been posted yet. But I recall an interview I read with Ron Moore stating that the conflict on new caprica would be resolved fairly quickly. He wanted the folks off the planet quick because he said that this is a space based show and wanted them on the move again. He also mentioned that the events that will transpire will deeply affect the crew and leave them forever changed. Not sure what he was alluding to.

I am super pissed. My apartment complex just changed cable companies and I will no longer get sci fi. So I will be forced to buy the episodes off iTunes. I will just have to deal with it.

 

[~Shard~]

Not sure if this has been posted yet. But I recall an interview I read with Ron Moore stating that the conflict on new caprica would be resolved fairly quickly. He wanted the folks off the planet quick because he said that this is a space based show and wanted them on the move again. He also mentioned that the events that will transpire will deeply affect the crew and leave them forever changed. Not sure what he was alluding to.

Makes sense. I don't know how an entire season on New Caprica would work, so I hope this is the case.

I am also eager to see how the Colonial fleet actually rescues the colonists and deals with the Cylon fleet - they don't have much to work with against 5 Baystars! But, it's also exciting, because according to the webisodes, we're now going to be about 3-4 months in of Cylon occupation on New Caprica, so that's giving the Adama's a lot of time to come up with a pretty sweet-ass plan, I'm thinking....

 

[2nyRiggz]

Okay I've been watching the show for this whole week now and I'm annoyed with "frack, Fracking" I would rather they cussed.

Lucy lawless is cute...in a old way

Bless

 

[~Shard~]

One thing I will say which I have some slight concern over is the “darkness” of the show. Honestly, that is one of the things that initially drew me to BSG – the gritty, dark, real world which they were in. The terminally ill president, the alcoholic XO, the traitorous scientist, the list goes on... I loved Star Trek as well, but it was always such a perfect utopian universe, which got to me at times. Everyone clean cut, well dressed, every character pretty much perfect and every story being tied up nicely at the end of 45 minutes in a neat tidy bow – this was true at least 90% of the time. BSG is the opposite. And I do like it - but now, after reading interviews with James Callis and Jamie Bamber on how dark this season is, and how it’s supposed to be even more desperate and ruthless than the previous seasons, I almost wonder if it’s going to be too depressing and too dark. The Star Trek universe was too perfect many times - I don’t want BSG ending up being too dystopian.

 

[scem0]

I've only read the original post and I don't want to spoil myself, I've only seen the first season, but I can't wait to watch seasons 2, 2.5, and 3. I'll have to wait for 3 to come out on DVD forever from now though. I don't have a DVD player, and I'm too cheap to pay for them via iTunes, and I don't like the quality much. Netflix for everything .

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[~Shard~]

I've only read the original post and I don't want to spoil myself, I've only seen the first season, but I can't wait to watch seasons 2, 2.5, and 3. I'll have to wait for 3 to come out on DVD forever from now though. I don't have a DVD player, and I'm too cheap to pay for them via iTunes, and I don't like the quality much. Netflix for everything .

Not a bad idea - spoilers abound in this thread I'm afraid, especially if you haven't seen Season 2 yet! Best not to read through the posts just yet - instead, enjoy the twists and turns of Season 2 yourself.