Seeing Hera's remains discovered and identified as "The Mother of Humanity", seemed to make all the effort to recover her worth it.........
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Seeing Hera's remains discovered and identified as "The Mother of Humanity", seemed to make all the effort to recover her worth it.........
just saw the last episode again. i like the ending but it makes me kind of sad. everything they did, all they suffered was kind of for nothing. if they had transferred resurrection to the cylons they would have broken the cycle of violence. now they are back to square one, everybody disperses and dissappears. only hera spreads her cylon/human dna into us. but everybody else gets forgotten. and the experiment simply starts again (that's good for us because we wouldn't have existed otherwise).
i would have liked some of them stay together and live less lonely lives.
what i don't understand is that caprica angel and baltar angel seem to know the plan and seem to live forever. kara angel however knew nothing and just disappeared. so she was a different kind of entity. she also had all of karas original memories.
well, we will see in this cycle if we create cylons and get destroyed again. we're at least part cylon so maybe we do better
i myself will certainly keep the firewall up and not network my mac more than necessary. and you IT guys in the defense department stay the FRACK away from blondes that want access to the mainframe!
i would have liked some of them stay together and live less lonely lives.
what i don't understand is that caprica angel and baltar angel seem to know the plan and seem to live forever. kara angel however knew nothing and just disappeared. so she was a different kind of entity. she also had all of karas original memories.
well, we will see in this cycle if we create cylons and get destroyed again. we're at least part cylon so maybe we do better
i myself will certainly keep the firewall up and not network my mac more than necessary. and you IT guys in the defense department stay the FRACK away from blondes that want access to the mainframe!
Decent ending. Left a lot of things unexplained, but since they didn't have an overall plan to begin with that isn't surprising.
Yes, it's already been filmed, and will retell the original miniseries and part of the first season (?) from the cylon perspective.
That's exactly what it's going to be. At least until they run out of story ideas and find a way to link back to Earth (as in Atlantis).
Yes, it's already been filmed, and will retell the original miniseries and part of the first season (?) from the cylon perspective.
The SG-U one looked interesting. I am trying to get a better feel for what exactly it will be like. My feeling is a ST Voyager..."we are out there on our own and we have to survive"
That's exactly what it's going to be. At least until they run out of story ideas and find a way to link back to Earth (as in Atlantis).
The Plan and SG-U both looked good, but I thought Caprica looked kinda dumb, and pretty unrelated to BSG.
From what I read, RDM had no idea when the DVD was coming out. I am looking forward to that and all the extras with it (longer episodes and bonus features).
just saw the last episode again
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i would have liked some of them stay together and live less lonely lives.
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i myself will certainly keep the firewall up and not network my mac more than necessary. and you IT guys in the defense department stay the FRACK away from blondes that want access to the mainframe!
I think I need to see it one more time to catch anything I missed. I have to admit the lonely lives thing is what got to me. Especially the Adama family.
And I like your advice.
It looks like it is simply "human" stories in a futuristic world. Basically using the BSG world with its history, technology, mythology, etc. and creating a new story line. I expect that again it will be just a SciFi genre, but will be a drama.
I am sure a lot of us will be looking at it closely and comparing it to RDM/DE previous work. They set the bar high, and we expect a lot.
I suppose that was the point but they really should have cut the last part out. It was just corny and didn't fit in my opinion. It also looks like they assumed the BSG audience was stupid enough to have to have that explained to us. Just my take.
Wait. You can't just leave! After all we've been through? I was sure things were going great! I've set my DVDR, canceled appointments, I've even stopped going out with friends so I could be with you! And suddenly it's all over?
Ohhhh... "There's no reason to get excited. It's not you; it's me." Where have I heard that before? Look, I knew entering into this relationship that it wouldn't last... but you've only been on for a few seasons! And now you're going away. This was your plan all along, wasn't it? To lure me into watching you every week, to make me LOVE YOU. MY LIFE IS BUT A JOKE TO YOU! OH YOU COLD, FRAKKING THIEF!
I gave up sex with actual people for you! And this is how I'm repaid? You trifling, low-down, good-for-nothing joker
Your going away FOREVER? Well... fine! See if I care! I couldn't get no relief anyway! When I first met you, you were young, hot, and sexy—all the women came and went—but now everybody's moping around your ship like they need to take a big frakin drink of my wine. Even the Cylons have lost their sex appeal... and you know how much I enjoy making love to mechanical conscienceless devices with simulated human genitalia.
Ohhhh... "There's no reason to get excited. It's not you; it's me." Where have I heard that before? Look, I knew entering into this relationship that it wouldn't last... but you've only been on for a few seasons! And now you're going away. This was your plan all along, wasn't it? To lure me into watching you every week, to make me LOVE YOU. MY LIFE IS BUT A JOKE TO YOU! OH YOU COLD, FRAKKING THIEF!
I gave up sex with actual people for you! And this is how I'm repaid? You trifling, low-down, good-for-nothing joker
Your going away FOREVER? Well... fine! See if I care! I couldn't get no relief anyway! When I first met you, you were young, hot, and sexy—all the women came and went—but now everybody's moping around your ship like they need to take a big frakin drink of my wine. Even the Cylons have lost their sex appeal... and you know how much I enjoy making love to mechanical conscienceless devices with simulated human genitalia.
And speaking of genitalia... This all started when some of the characters had theirs reversed.
Except didn't the paper report on Hera's remains being a fossilized child? And if she was fossilized as a child, wouldn't that imply that she died as a child, thus implying that she could not (personally) have been the mother of humanity?
She could still be the mitochondrial mother, since mitochondrial DNA is inherited through the mother only; technically that would make Boomer the true mother of humanity, as she must have had another daughter after she got over Hera's untimely childhood demise.
It would mean that she is the oldest living person with that type of DNA. Other cylon/human hybrid children would have similar DNA, they don't have to be children of Hera. Which would also mean there was no great reason to save her.
Amazing, Ive been waiting 5 years for that tune. It was Euphoric!
I loved this final episode, just as i have the whole series, but didn’t think the utopian "happy ending" was quite as powerful, compared to what the shows greatest strength was, a feeling of struggle and determination. They all live 'happily ever after', growing vegetables, didn’t quite cut it for me.
Having said that i love the whole concept of the 'lost knowledge' as they dilute themselves into what becomes today’s human civilisation. And i loved the role of the chief, who was flawed as a being. who’s single moment of fury and bitterness destroyed the brief and tenuous truce. I loved that he then dissociated himself from human civilisation, it kind of felt he was aware his weakness destroyed the union that could have been. And he wanted to remove that weakness from the future of humanity.
I also loved Cavils single mindedness, and to me his ambiguous suicide. Was he so focused, that he would rather die by his own hand, than be a prisoner of a race he so despises? Or was it that in such a heated moment, he forgot his inability to resurrect, that he forgot his own mortality?
What i didn’t like was the blow by blow ending. I feel it should have ended on Bill sitting at the site of the cabin, but it continues uncomfortably with Hera looking to the sky, a poor koyaanisqatsi landscape montage and "modern day" with the two spirits discussing how quaint the cycle of events was. And then a robo montage, please!
None-the-less, I loved it, BSG will be sorely missed!
It didn't say child, it said young woman. She could well have had two or three children before passing away.
God = deus ex machina
I understand that the many loose ends (in particular the killing and resurrection of Kara) made it difficult for the writers to write an acceptable ending, but I think they could have done a better job. Simply waving ones hands and saying all the weird **** is god is just lazy writing. Yes, there was always a spiritual undertone to the story, but the manner in which they used god in these final episodes clashed harshly with the way the writers have used religion throughout the series. While I prefer my scifi (not going to spell it like syphilis like they want me to) sans supernatural you need only look at stories like Babylon 5 and Star Wars to find examples where it is done well.
I understand that the many loose ends (in particular the killing and resurrection of Kara) made it difficult for the writers to write an acceptable ending, but I think they could have done a better job. Simply waving ones hands and saying all the weird **** is god is just lazy writing. Yes, there was always a spiritual undertone to the story, but the manner in which they used god in these final episodes clashed harshly with the way the writers have used religion throughout the series. While I prefer my scifi (not going to spell it like syphilis like they want me to) sans supernatural you need only look at stories like Babylon 5 and Star Wars to find examples where it is done well.
The old BSG tune has already been heard in the second season episode "Final Cut", at the end when the documentary on the life on Battlestar Galactica was shown.
It is called the "Colonial Anthem".
I disagree. I don't think it was lazy writing. They merely answered the fundamental question of the entire series: Is there a higher power guiding the characters? Is there a plan? You saw evidence for both sides throughout the show, but the ultimate answer ending up being, "Yes."
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Agree. I think they traded Leoben's screen time for Simon.
I'll take that as a complement
The names Simon, I am a Cylon. No, wait! I did not just say that. You heard nothing.
The only thing I'm bothered by is Starbuck going "poof", then Lee is truly abondanded.......
I wanted a little more explanation as to what she was. I'm still guessing a bit. The 2 hours plus didn't fill all the holes.
I wanted a little more explanation as to what she was. I'm still guessing a bit. The 2 hours plus didn't fill all the holes.
What a great ending, truly epic. There's not much I can add that hasn't been said already here... Only thing would be, I'm curious how the "Watchtower" song can be explained - it's a present-day song, written in the 60's by Bob Dylan, so how did he "rip it off" from a song written hundreds of thousands of years earlier? Due to the fats forward we know that the sotry apparently takes place in our current reality, so what's up with that? Is Bob Dylan a Cylon?
After 150k years I think no matter what it was built out of it would have been returned to the Earth.
That's what so great about the concept. Honestly, this could easily have happened before. Civilizations more advanced than us could have lived on Earth ages ago and there would be no trace of them - organic materials, metals, plastics, anything like that would ultimately disintegrate, leaving no trace. Our human history only dates back a small amount of time compared to the age of the Earth, so who knows what happened here in the past? I think it only makes sense to have an open mind about these things. The current human race is quite primitive and definitely not the be-all and end-all.
She remained on the original Earth.
After 150k years I think no matter what it was built out of it would have been returned to the Earth.
That's what so great about the concept. Honestly, this could easily have happened before. Civilizations more advanced than us could have lived on Earth ages ago and there would be no trace of them - organic materials, metals, plastics, anything like that would ultimately disintegrate, leaving no trace. Our human history only dates back a small amount of time compared to the age of the Earth, so who knows what happened here in the past? I think it only makes sense to have an open mind about these things. The current human race is quite primitive and definitely not the be-all and end-all.
She remained on the original Earth.
Oh yeah, one more thing - anyone notice that the FTL readout after Kara's successful jump depicts an image closely resembling the Eye of Jupiter, similar to the one she painted in her apartment on Caprica?
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Just got the last 2 eps off iTunes.
That was awesome, such a good ending. Not too convinced on the Caprica/Baltar scene at the end, felt just a little too preachy but it had such a good vibe. The scene right at the end with Adama on the hill looking out on the planet was stunning.
That was awesome, such a good ending. Not too convinced on the Caprica/Baltar scene at the end, felt just a little too preachy but it had such a good vibe. The scene right at the end with Adama on the hill looking out on the planet was stunning.
Somehow I did not fully understand this either. I remember her making a comment about staying on Earth, but I had not fully understood that she had actually been left behind, somehow. Makes me feel better someone else missed it, too (not Shard, but hulugu).
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