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The one big problem with the Apple Watch Ultra
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Ah yes, another hater thread whose theme is "Product X won't work for my very specific situation, so it's absolute trash." Give me a break. Just because it's not going to work for you, that doesn't mean that other people shouldn't consider it. Do you really think people are gullible enough to think that the Ultra is going to be good enough to climb Mt. Everest? Personally, I think the Ultra would be great for skiing and would enable me to leave my phone in the car. Let's take a look at the boxes the Ultra ticks for this:
Edit to add: To this list I would also add detect if I get into a crash going to/from the slopes because some jerkwad decided it was a good idea to go down a mountain pass at 80MPH in a blizzard because "MUST GET FIRST CHAIR!"
- All day activity tracking? ✅
- Improved GPS to make your activity tracking just that much more accurate? ✅
- Cellular connection to stay in touch with family and friends while on the slopes? ✅
- Ability to call for help if you fall and get hurt, or wander off the run and get a bit lost? ✅
- Better microphones so you can actually be heard while sitting on a chair lift in windy conditions? ✅
- Ability to access resort maps? ✅
- Easier to use while wearing gloves? ✅
- Confidence that your battery will last even while enjoying an après ski cocktail? ✅
- Still have enough battery left to do some night skiing if you're at a resort setup for that? ✅
- Do ALL of this while leaving your phone behind entirely and not have to worry about battery life for a full day of skiing? ✅
Edit to add: To this list I would also add detect if I get into a crash going to/from the slopes because some jerkwad decided it was a good idea to go down a mountain pass at 80MPH in a blizzard because "MUST GET FIRST CHAIR!"
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I take my watch off when I go into the bush.
Ah yes, another human being on the internet who hijacks a conversation as if people having a discussion is somehow wrong and it must be implied, due to your cynicism, that the discussion is without value AND you feel it necessary to join in and make these useless judgement statements. In addition, to throw in an absurd strawman: nobody said the Ultra was "absolute trash". That's you inserting a strawman.
And the incredible insight and revelation from your post: "Just because it's not going to work for you, that doesn't mean that other people shouldn't consider it." Nobody is saying the Ultra can't work for others dude.
🙋♂️ No shame. I’ll use it outdoors and mountain biking etc but I’ll not be the ideal user. I mostly got the Ultra cause I wanted a cellular watch with big display and great battery life. For how I’ll use the watch, it’ll be more than enough.
As a avid runner, I hope it will replace my Garmins 🤷🏽♂️ I’ll will be using it for strength training on my recovery days from running, and when I bike every day for work.
As a avid runner, I hope it will replace my GarminsI’ll will be using it for strength training on my recovery days from running, and when I bike every day for work.
I’ll will be using it for strength training on my recovery days from running, and when I bike every day for work.
I have a garmin fenix the Apple Watch is not replacing that FACTS so don’t kid yourself the ultra is no where near that capability
One or both of those power saving modes they spoke about it may give you the longevity you need on these trips. Once the Ultra is out and in the hands of reviewers I imagine we'll see some battery stress tests. I'm not in the market but am curious to see the results.
By the way, people have been using regular Apple Watches for actual expeditions on Everest. I’ve watched a couple of them on their journey to the summit on YT. So yes, if they can go to that extreme environment with regular AW, I am sure the AWU will work too.
How much did Apple’s marketing pay them
Doubt Apple paid anything. The guy doesn’t even mention it in the video, but it can be seen from time to time on his wrist.
Apple sells you the life you think you should have, very few will use it that way but they will still buy it.
Given that the Apple Watch Ultra gets a longer battery life by literally getting a larger battery means that the Apple Watch is unlikely going to enjoy a revolutionary boost to overall battery life anytime soon.
I don't see Apple cutting back on any of its features. If anything, the watch is going to continue getting more sensors, and with more processes running in the background, and Apple working to increase the overall screen size while keeping the form factor the same, I consider it a win if battery life can remain constant from generation to generation.
I don't see Apple cutting back on any of its features. If anything, the watch is going to continue getting more sensors, and with more processes running in the background, and Apple working to increase the overall screen size while keeping the form factor the same, I consider it a win if battery life can remain constant from generation to generation.
I have Fenix 6X today and ordered AW Ultra. Did a comparison based on pre-launch data:
- Ultra has a larger battery, but does much more than Fenix. For hiking I would expect 2x battery life from Fenix. In a real world use-case this is ok: for an expedition you take a 10,000mAh battery pack with you and should be ok for > 30 days by charging every 2-3 nights. And would need that battery pack for Garmin as well. And you need it for your phone.
- Ultra does not have offline maps and there is no app even closely comparable to what Fenix has out of the box. Preloading area on WorkOutDoors and routing on iPhone (with Garmin Explore app), you should be a pretty good experience with Ultra (display is way better than Fenix, so maybe it evens out the lacking features)
- With WatchOS 9 and Athlytic app, you should be getting similar fitness metrics from Ultra compared to Garmin's excellent metrics.
Assuming Apple's estimate of 60h with battery optimization is correct (that includes 15h of activity), regardless of the condition, you should not have any problem with the battery life due to your wrist warming up the watch. I would expect 2 days with battery optimization on even in the harshest conditions.
You charge it nightly in your sleeping bag from a power bank you carry close to your body during the day and you should be good for many weeks out in the woods. Assuming you'll carry 1kg of food per day, battery (or even a solar panel) weight will not be a significant overhead on your backpack.
Nope. None of the Garmin watches has satellite messaging built-in.
Garmin has a wonderful satellite messaging device called InReach that you can connect to your Garmin watch. I have been using both Garmin Fenix 6X and InReach mini for years. In theory you could send a message from your watch, but user interface is so clumsy that I never use it. In fact, I rarely have Fenix paired with InReach due to connection sometimes sucking battery from Fenix like crazy: I have had battery die on an overnight hiking trip due to this.
That said - Garmin fall detection _might_ be able to communicate over InReach. That could be a life-saving feature on a solo-expedition. (please verify before heading out)
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