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Battery life.

I mentioned it before. A couple of days isn’t enough. I rough it in the bush regularly up North in Canada and a couple of days isn’t enough. If I were going on an expedition I would be looking for weeks of battery life not a few days.

Now I see some reviews coming out and saying this exact same thing.

I likely am going to end up with a non-Apple Watch like a Garmin Fenix or something else, which is fine.

Curious to hear from anyone else what their thoughts are.

Good review that gets into this topic at around the 8 min mark:

you are not exactly roughing it if you need an Apple Watch now are you. Man up for goodness sakes, a bit of leather to cover your bits and a hunting knife is all you need to rough it. 🤣
 
Assuming Apple's estimate of 60h with battery optimization is correct (that includes 15h of activity), regardless of the condition, you should not have any problem with the battery life due to your wrist warming up the watch. I would expect 2 days with battery optimization on even in the harshest conditions.

You charge it nightly in your sleeping bag from a power bank you carry close to your body during the day and you should be good for many weeks out in the woods. Assuming you'll carry 1kg of food per day, battery (or even a solar panel) weight will not be a significant overhead on your backpack.
I don’t want to carry a powerbank.
 
Nope. None of the Garmin watches has satellite messaging built-in.

Garmin has a wonderful satellite messaging device called InReach that you can connect to your Garmin watch. I have been using both Garmin Fenix 6X and InReach mini for years. In theory you could send a message from your watch, but user interface is so clumsy that I never use it. In fact, I rarely have Fenix paired with InReach due to connection sometimes sucking battery from Fenix like crazy: I have had battery die on an overnight hiking trip due to this.

That said - Garmin fall detection _might_ be able to communicate over InReach. That could be a life-saving feature on a solo-expedition. (please verify before heading out)
I did not say satellite messaging.
 
You must not have checked OPs post history
I can’t recall any other Website where so many people waste their time inserting themselves into conversations adding no value and casting judgements. Your posting histories speak for themselves.

I’m almost certain your behaviour is rooted in a deep cynicism for life derived from failure.
 
I can’t recall any other Website where so many people waste their time inserting themselves into conversations adding no value and casting judgements. Your posting histories speak for themselves.

I’m almost certain your behaviour is rooted in a deep cynicism for life derived from failure.
Wow another "macrumors regular" that only joined in August. Bored are we?
 
Another one of your threads about how bad the Ultra is 🙄. Last time it was ugly, now its the battery.……
No, last time it was something about the Apple Watch Ultra looking like a bag of smashed axxholes…..along with multiple references to “strawmen” 😊
 
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No, last time it was something about the Apple Watch Ultra looking like a bag of smashed axxholes…..along with multiple references to “strawmen” 😊
I wonder where you’re sitting right now. I have an idea.
 
Wow another "macrumors regular" that only joined in August. Bored are we?
Why are you here? Aren’t you supposed to be counting all the money you made this week? How is it that a human being like you spends even a second of their time inserting themselves in a conversation they find no value in?
 
What I’m referring to is Garmin’s GPS features. I was not referring to using Satellite for other communications. Garmin has some nifty GPS functionality. I understand Garmin has InReach which may become available on their watches.

I also understand the Ultra and iPhone 14s and AW Series 8 can communicate over satellite which is very cool, but completely useless with a dead battery. And it’s limited to the US and parts of Canada for now and may not work above a certain latitude.
 
They cannot. Satellite support is only in the latest (14) iPhones, not in any AWs.
That’s not what I read. Am I missing something?

“The feature is only available on the iPhone 14 and 14 Pro, the Apple Watch Series 8, second-gen Apple Watch SE, and Apple Watch Ultra, since it relies on specific hardware to connect to satellites.”

 
That’s not what I read. Am I missing something?

“The feature is only available on the iPhone 14 and 14 Pro, the Apple Watch Series 8, second-gen Apple Watch SE, and Apple Watch Ultra, since it relies on specific hardware to connect to satellites.”

Perhaps you could post an Apple link (rather than Gizmodo) that talks of satellite SOS on AW ? …. Pretty sure you won’t find one because it doesn’t have that feature AFAIK.
 
I have one and know how to use it.

Then why bring a smart watch on such trips? What’s the value any smart watch will give you? I highly doubt you need notifications or health & fitness tracking in the woods, for such a long period.

To me, this thread sounds like arguing for the sake of arguing. You want to have a smart watch with you on a two weeks trip in the wilderness, but don’t want to bring chargers. There’s no point then for having the smart watch with you. Thread closed...
 
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Then why bring a smart watch on such trips? What’s the value any smart watch will give you? I highly doubt you need notifications or health & fitness tracking in the woods, for such a long period.

To me, this thread sounds like arguing for the sake of arguing. You want to have a smart watch with you on a two weeks trip in the wilderness, but don’t want to bring chargers. There’s no point then for having the smart watch with you. Thread closed...
Why do you think? There is one key reason. Try and figure it out.
 
Seeing as Apple didn't mention the watch was for extended camping, I really don't see your point.

They straight up tell you the battery life expectancy. Why you complain about some activity that does not fall into the window of the battery life expectancy is simply puzzling.
 
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What puts me off the ultra is only one thing = the weight ..

Everything else about it I like - ok maybe it's not as pretty as the others ..
 
Polar exploration appears off the menu for both Garmin and Apple devices. So far as I can find, both have a lower operating temperature of -20 C. Might be OK under a glove, but not open to the air, in serious cold.

While Apple also say that 0 C is the lower limit for charging, I could not find an equivalent statement for Garmin.
 
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