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Polar exploration appears off the menu for both Garmin and Apple devices. So far as I can find, both have a lower operating temperature of -20 C. Might be OK under a glove, but not open to the air, in serious cold.

While Apple also say that 0 C is the lower limit for charging, I could not find an equivalent statement for Garmin.
The Garmin isn’t going to generally need to be charged if its battery life is maximized.
 
Seeing as Apple didn't mention the watch was for extended camping, I really don't see your point.

They straight up tell you the battery life expectancy. Why you complain about some activity that does not fall into the window of the battery life expectancy is simply puzzling.
Have you ever been invested in an ecosystem but your requirements aren’t being met by one of their products and you openly talk about that? Answer: no.
 
The Garmin isn’t going to generally need to be charged if its battery life is maximized.
What is the point of a GPS-capable watch and then switching off GPS to maximise battery life? Fenix 7 has 57 hours with GPS only. Not that spectacular. Anywhere that seriously out of the way, I'd want the possibility of it lasting longer than that which would imply recharging.
 
Not going to read all those pages to see if somebody else said but what review did you read? Because there are no reviews for the Ultra out yet. That video doesn't count as a review as they haven't tested the product. All I see are stock images and no Ultra in hand/on wrist.
 
What is the point of a GPS-capable watch and then switching off GPS to maximise battery life? Fenix 7 has 57 hours with GPS only. Not that spectacular. Anywhere that seriously out of the way, I'd want the possibility of it lasting longer than that which would imply recharging.
Wrong. Go and research how Garmin utilizes GPS to get weeks of battery life. Expedition GPS mode.
 
Not going to read all those pages to see if somebody else said but what review did you read? Because there are no reviews for the Ultra out yet. That video doesn't count as a review as they haven't tested the product. All I see are stock images and no Ultra in hand/on wrist.
The video counts as a review. And that’s not the point. Stop. The point is the FACT that the battery life on the Ultra is not that long.
 
We get it OP. The advertised battery life isn’t good enough for you and it’s time to move on. If you’re spending a prolonged time somewhere so inhospitable that you can’t reliably charge from a backup battery pack then quite frankly an adventure smart watch is the least of your concerns. It’s a pretty niche issue and the overwhelming majority of people on this forum are likely to find the battery capacity more than enough for their individual needs.
 
Wrong. Go and research how Garmin utilizes GPS to get weeks of battery life. Expedition GPS mode.
That is why I expressly quoted Garmin "GPS Only" mode.


Smartwatch: Up to 18 days
Battery Saver Watch Mode: Up to 57 days
GPS Only: Up to 57 hours
All Satellite Systems: Up to 40 hours
All Satellite Systems + Music: Up to 10 hours
Max Battery GPS: Up to 136 hours
Expedition GPS: Up to 40 days
 
We get it OP. The advertised battery life isn’t good enough for you and it’s time to move on. If you’re spending a prolonged time somewhere so inhospitable that you can’t reliably charge from a backup battery pack then quite frankly an adventure smart watch is the least of your concerns. It’s a pretty niche issue and the overwhelming majority of people on this forum are likely to find the battery capacity more than enough for their individual needs.
We get it. We understand your view. The question, why. Are. You. Here.
 
We get it. We understand your view. The question, why. Are. You. Here.
Like many here I’m buying an Apple Watch Ultra. I read this thread entitled “the one big problem with the Apple Watch Ultra” to help inform my purchase decision because I love a bit of clickbait. I quickly discovered that there is no problem in my opinion nor in many other’s. I’m pleased you’ve realised its not for you before buying one but perhaps you might consider that’s it‘s OK for the rest of us to disagree with your initial statement. It’s not a big problem for almost everyone, just you apparently.
 
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Wrong. Go and research how terrible Garmin software is, and the many, many, many, many, many, many complaints about bugs, failures, bad updates, bad syncing, bad GPS tracks ....

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Wrong. Go and research how good Garmin watches are and how many people use and rely on them and even prefer them over AWs. And the many, many, many, many, many, many praises they receive.​

Check out the complaints about the AW regarding bugs, failures, bad updates, bad syncing, bad GPS tracks...​

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We get it. We understand your view. The question, why. Are. You. Here.
You understand that just because you create a thread it doesn’t mean that people who have dissenting opinions are not welcome right?

Based on your previous post that was locked and this one you seem to think it is your own personal space where you must respond to every person who comments on the post. I can assure that is not the case and your forum experience will increase quite a bit when you realize that.
 
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Garmins software is sooo 1980. but it doesn’t matter. If they would have a always LTE on feature on their watch. , which they don’t have because the watch would die after 3 hours of use. In the end. They have no watch at all with this feature. You always have to carry your phone. Garmin pay. A joke….
Sorry. Garmin is even not in competition with Apple. They are OUT

I don’t want to start the discussion about their bad sensors. On wrist Heart rate. Blood oxygen… you have to buy the Fenix 7 Saphire to have at least a usable GPS. All their fancy useless stuff like body battery is based on bad sensors. OUT

And yes. The discussion about running more than 16h. Great. It seams nearly everyone is running, doing fitness in that category. Remember. Even running a half marathon is for nearly most of the people out there a NO GO.
We are talking about a few people out there who are doing this. Ok. It seems Garmin is now looking for those few guys out there 😂😂😂

Poor guys. Nothing left for Garmin
 
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Garmins software is sooo 1980. but it doesn’t matter. If they would have a always LTE on feature on their watch. , which they don’t have because the watch would die after 3 hours of use. In the end. They have no watch at all with this feature. You always have to carry your phone.
Sorry. Garmin is even not in competition with Apple. They are OUT

I don’t want to start the discussion about their bad sensors. On wrist Heart rate. Blood oxygen… you have to buy the Fenix 7 Saphire to have at least a usable GPS. All their fancy useless stuff like body battery is based on bad sensors. OUT

And yes. The discussion about running more than 16h. Great. It seams nearly everyone is running, doing fitness in that category. Remember. Even running a half marathon is for nearly most of the people out there a NO GO.
We are talking about a few people out there who are doing this. Ok. It seems Garmin is now looking for those few guys out there 😂😂😂
Your needs DO NOT equal other people's needs in some general way and neither does your experience map on to everyone else. It's hilarious reading this. I don't need a device with cellular connectivity because where I go there is no cellular connectivity.
 
Battery life.

I mentioned it before. A couple of days isn’t enough. I rough it in the bush regularly up North in Canada and a couple of days isn’t enough. If I were going on an expedition I would be looking for weeks of battery life not a few days.

Now I see some reviews coming out and saying this exact same thing.

I likely am going to end up with a non-Apple Watch like a Garmin Fenix or something else, which is fine.

Curious to hear from anyone else what their thoughts are.

Good review that gets into this topic at around the 8 min mark:

Your needs DO NOT equal other people's needs in some general way and neither does your experience map on to everyone else. It's hilarious reading this. I don't need a device with week long battery life because where I go there is access to chargers.
 
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But I hope you are needing a device with state of the art software plus accurate sensors 😂😂😂
 
Your needs DO NOT equal other people's needs in some general way and neither does your experience map on to everyone else. It's hilarious reading this. I don't need a device with cellular connectivity because where I go there is no cellular connectivity.

Your needs DO NOT equal other people's needs in some general way and neither does your experience map on to everyone else. It's hilarious reading this. I don't need a device with week long battery life because where I go there is access to chargers.

Sums up this entire thread rather poetically
 
Your needs DO NOT equal other people's needs in some general way and neither does your experience map on to everyone else. It's hilarious reading this. I don't need a device with cellular connectivity because where I go there is no cellular connectivity.
They kinda do. Bad censors are bad censors. Garmin are notorious for bad, innacurate censors. And their watch GPS tracks are terrible. If you really are out of range of cell towers, you would know how poorly these Garmin watches can perform on sat-only tracks.

And if you don’t need “connectivity,” why even bother with a watch? Just take a compass and a thirty minute map. Or get a Garmin Montana or InReach, or one of their other handheld satellite devices — you know, something that actually works and has a week of battery life with a much better screen and vastly superior messaging/safety features. Garmin’s big strength is auto, marine, and handheld GPS and sat-coms. For anything serious, the watches are an unreliable joke.

I own Garmin handhelds. They work and are great. Garmin Watch? I wouldn’t use it to navigate to my bathroom. Ain’t no one using a Fenix or MARQ out in the field where their lives depend on that sat track, and you are just begging for a SAR heli flight if you do.
 
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Your needs DO NOT equal other people's needs in some general way and neither does your experience map on to everyone else. It's hilarious reading this. I don't need a device with week long battery life because where I go there is access to chargers.
No my needs don’t. Cool, enjoy your chargers.
 
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