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The only thing that's changed is nothing?

Andres Cantu said:
The iPhone 6s still has no optical image stabilization, the aperture did not change (stayed at f/2.2 versus competitors at f/1.9 and f/1.8), the battery life stayed exactly the same (for the first time ever), and it still starts at 16GB :confused:

But hey, they need to save features for the iPhone 7, right?

Plus, the 11% increase in weight will come-off next year :p
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12vElectronics said:
I agree.. not a whole lot upgraded this year..
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Perhaps you all missed the keynote? Surely you CAN'T be serious. :rolleyes:
 
terraphantm said:
They have talked about cores in past keynotes. They talk about 64-bit which is meaningless to the end user. They go into more detail on how the camera sensor works than is necessary. Same with the f-stop and whatnot.

What they never mention is clockspeed or RAM. I suspect because they lag behind their competition in those areas.
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Indeed, you're right. Let me correct myself; they only mention technical aspects if it's something that they're the first to do.
 
AbSoluTc said:
Perhaps you all missed the keynote? Surely you CAN'T be serious. :rolleyes:
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I'm not entirely serious, since I knew some of these things were being saved for the iPhone 7. However, I don't want to look like the biggest Apple fanboy and justify every decision they make.

For instance, there was absolutely no reason for the lack of OIS in the iPhone 6s, especially since pretty much all competitors incorporate it into their flagships. Also, the f/2.2 aperture is very outdated (they could at least have given us an f/2.0 aperture), though I'll give them credit for using 1.22um pixels instead of the smaller 1.12um everyone else uses.

Also, I cannot defend them for not increasing the battery life even by one hour like all other previous iPhones have done over their predecessors. In the end, it's a solid upgrade with some disappointments. I understand why they do what they do, but when pretty much every iPhone owner asks for better battery life, it's kind of embarrassing that they ignore them.
 
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Well it weighs more. And next year the iPhone 7 will weigh less!!

Dolt, joke was in the OP already. Easy pickins.
 
I'm not moving up from my 6. Battery is an issue for me and this is no different, I'm disappointed. If it wasn't for my love of iMessage I probably would have jumped off the apple boat awhile ago.
 
bigjim83 said:
I'm not moving up from my 6. Battery is an issue for me and this is no different, I'm disappointed. If it wasn't for my love of iMessage I probably would have jumped off the apple boat awhile ago.
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Integration and ecosystem keep me with Apple. If the RAM did not increase to 2GB, the improvements in the 6S won't affect my usage much over the 6.
 
joeblow7777 said:
To my recollection, they NEVER mention RAM, whether it increases or not. I think they prefer to focus on improvements that most people will understand.
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Like when they spend three minutes talking about new screen technology and whats under this panel and how light and color shows better because of that or this thing.

Its interesting how they don't mentioned it for iOS devices but do for Macs. So its not like Apple never mentions RAM, they just obviously find it more important in computers than mobile devices.
 
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Noble Actual said:
Like when they spend three minutes talking about new screen technology and whats under this panel and how light and color shows better because of that or this thing.

Its interesting how they don't mentioned it for iOS devices but do for Macs. So its not like Apple never mentions RAM, they just obviously find it more important in computers than mobile devices.
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They don't mention it because they know that's one of the things in which they're behind other competitors. Imagine how the audience would have reacted to the iPhone 6's 1GB of RAM in the keynote. BOO!!!
 
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Andres Cantu said:
The iPhone 6s still has no optical image stabilization, the aperture did not change (stayed at f/2.2 versus competitors at f/1.9 and f/1.8), the battery life stayed exactly the same (for the first time ever), and it still starts at 16GB :confused:

But hey, they need to save features for the iPhone 7, right?

Plus, the 11% increase in weight will come-off next year :p
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So they added about 10 major features, just not the few features you wanted. That's what you mean when you say nothing.
 
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Zerilos said:
So they added about 10 major features, just not the few features you wanted. That's what you mean when you say nothing.
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They added many features that I wanted and did not add some others that I wanted. I'm just giving Apple a hard time by changing their slogan from "everything" to "nothing" to reflect the opinions that we're sure to hear for the next couple of months :)
 
Harry Potter photos are a nice development and worth it to me to make the jump. The problem is I was hoping to trade in the oversized 6Plus for the 6s because I thought surely they will incorporate OIS into the smaller model. Stupid naive me, I was even hoping for a ppi jump for the smaller phone. I think now the 6SPlus even has OIS for video and is the only iPhone to have it. So poop, I'm thinking of staying with the oversized monster phone.

:(
 
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mi7chy said:
's' in 6s stands for 'same'. With the competition so fierce I'd thought for sure Apple would accelerate a newly redesigned 7.
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In case you haven't noticed, the iPhone is crushing the market the most it has since Android came onto the market with Samsung. Apple is dominating the market.

Did people miss the 2x CPU performance, Camera, 3D Touch, Enhanced Graphics.

Again, maybe the S cycle isn't for everyone, so then don't buy a device. But to say nothing has changed because the chassis is the same is an understatement.
 
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Although I agree that not much is changed, I may still upgrade from the 6+. My main reason is that my daughter is in high school now and if I'm going to have to pay an extra fee, I'm going to be the one with the new phone. My 6+ has Applecare+, so I'll put it in an Otterbox or Lifeproof and gift it to her.

Also, I have had white faced iPhones for a few generations now and I'm bored with it.

As you can see, I really have no reason to upgrade. My daughter doesn't really 'need' a phone, so we'll see how I feel on the 12th.
 
GrumpyMom said:
Harry Potter photos are a nice development and worth it to me to make the jump. The problem is I was hoping to trade in the oversized 6Plus for the 6s because I thought surely they will incorporate OIS into the smaller model. Stupid naive me, I was even hoping for a ppi jump for the smaller phone. I think now the 6SPlus even has OIS for video and is the only iPhone to have it. So poop, I'm thinking of staying with the oversized monster phone.

:(
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The reason that the plus has the OIS is that it's a larger flat surface and more likely to wobble. The assumption Apple is making is that the smaller phone doesn't need it. I'd be surprised if the photos from the plus are actually crisper than the ones from the standard-size phone under most conditions - I'd expect them to be about the same.
 
I still wish I had my iP5 on JB iOS 6.1.2. I'll have to make due with my iP6 on JB iOS 8.3. I'm not falling for your tricks on iOS 9...Apple.

I'm actually starting to get over upgrading. I know someone who picked up an brand new pre-paid Android phone for $79, no contract. It wasn't horrible and makes me think twice at that $750 price tag (Because nobody wants a 16GB iPhone with 4K).
 
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It's amazing people attach a number to aperture and treat it like a spec.

When someone says they should have used X.XX aperture for an iPhone it only illustrates they do not know what they are talking about.

When using a fixed aperture it needs to be tailored for the camera. This is why you can find cameras with wider apertures that produce darker images. If the sensor under it isn't as sensitive you need a wide aperture which then affects other aspects of the image.

This is going to turn into a megapixel race again.
 
I think it's a solid upgrade. Force touch looks like a real gamechanger.
I'm not upgrading though.
The only disappointing aspects to me, are:
1. the pink option is really ugly...
2. they added an 'S' badge engraving on the back??? HOW TACKY IS THAT!!!! they're essentially decreasing the value of the 'iPhone' brand.... now 'iPhone [ S ]' is a better brand than the 'iPhone' brand... feels like an easy way to make people believe that the iphone 6S is a worthy upgrade to the 6 series.... really.... why not let the product speak for itself?
 
Andres Cantu said:
I'm not entirely serious, since I knew some of these things were being saved for the iPhone 7. However, I don't want to look like the biggest Apple fanboy and justify every decision they make.

For instance, there was absolutely no reason for the lack of OIS in the iPhone 6s, especially since pretty much all competitors incorporate it into their flagships. Also, the f/2.2 aperture is very outdated (they could at least have given us an f/2.0 aperture), though I'll give them credit for using 1.22um pixels instead of the smaller 1.12um everyone else uses.

Also, I cannot defend them for not increasing the battery life even by one hour like all other previous iPhones have done over their predecessors. In the end, it's a solid upgrade with some disappointments. I understand why they do what they do, but when pretty much every iPhone owner asks for better battery life, it's kind of embarrassing that they ignore them.
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So a whopping 1/3 stop aperture increase would make all the difference for you? Shooting at 1/50 sec instead of 1/40 sec is the difference between a good camera upgrade and not? Come on.
 
Andres Cantu said:
I'm not entirely serious, since I knew some of these things were being saved for the iPhone 7. However, I don't want to look like the biggest Apple fanboy and justify every decision they make.

For instance, there was absolutely no reason for the lack of OIS in the iPhone 6s, especially since pretty much all competitors incorporate it into their flagships. Also, the f/2.2 aperture is very outdated (they could at least have given us an f/2.0 aperture), though I'll give them credit for using 1.22um pixels instead of the smaller 1.12um everyone else uses.

Also, I cannot defend them for not increasing the battery life even by one hour like all other previous iPhones have done over their predecessors. In the end, it's a solid upgrade with some disappointments. I understand why they do what they do, but when pretty much every iPhone owner asks for better battery life, it's kind of embarrassing that they ignore them.
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dont look at numbers. aperture 2.2 is not 'worse' than aperture 1.8.
theyre just design decisions. Opened up aperture decreases sharpness. The difference between 2.2 and 1.8 is not that drastic as you might imagine, if you are looking for bokeh - given the small sensor size. you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
 
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