The reason for early deliveries...

[samcraig]

Do you work for FedEx? Otherwise how can you definitively say FedEx didn't call up Apple and tell them they can't guarantee delivery for all phones on the 24th and they need to start delivering immediately? Given the pre-ordering CF I imagine Apple is a little gun shy to more bad pub. They are likely trying to get ahead of the curve here.

Also where did I say FedEx "dictated" terms. Apple has a contract w/ FedEx. Both parties negotiated those terms. I have no idea what the terms are. Regardless it doesn't preclude either party from asking for a wavier or a change.

You said it best when you said you have no idea.

As FedEx is, and has been a client of mine for well over 15 years - I can assure you - the "load" for this delivery isn't an issue.

As for "where did I said FedEx dictated terms" - you're right. You didn't write it. But you did write "The most logical reason IMHO is that FedEx told Apple that it needed to start delivering phones as soon as it rec'd them or they might not be able to deliver them all on the 24th."

That's pretty much implying that FedEx told Apple "let us do it our way."

As another has said - server load is COMPLETELY different than delivery in terms of strategy and planning.

(pssssst Fed Ex and every other package delivery company doesn't only rely on their teams/fleet to deliver packages during the ROUTING phase of delivery)

 

[aristobrat]

So now several hundred thousand people will be activating their iPhones *before* launch day.

That takes a HUGE load off of the activation servers for Thursday morning!

IMO, Apple's being proactive about the potential launch issues. Good for them.

 

[aforty]

It's ********. I pre-ordered for pickup and I'll be getting mine later than everyone else. Sorry but that's not fair.

 

[albert1028]

So now several hundred thousand people will be activating their iPhones *before* launch day.

That takes a HUGE load off of the activation servers for Thursday morning!

IMO, Apple's being proactive about the potential launch issues. Good for them.

Maybe also, they want to test out the activation servers for full load, so the issues that pop up tomorrow can be addressed overnight before the mega-launch.

 

[uberamd]

It's ********. I pre-ordered for pickup and I'll be getting mine later than everyone else. Sorry but that's not fair.

Are you a little kid? I pre-ordered for delivery and I don't even have shipping confirmation yet. Just wait, why do you need to be the first person to get the device? Does it really matter that much?

After reading all of these posts about how pissed people are that their status still shows processing, etc I am starting to wonder what the average age is of a MacRumors member.

 

[oldschooldude]

What if these phones don't come on the 23rd.

Maybe they will show up on the 24th?

I hope....

 

[Romanesq]

how true

Something Apple does often (not all the time) is under promise and over deliver. It is a good business practice. Something a lot of these other companies don't understand when they promise these great products and never deliver them.

Apple will have a lot of happy customers tomorrow. It is not bad for business. Nothing ever wrong with exceeding expectations. Might even make many forget about last weeks fiasco. The lasting impression people will have is they got this wonderful phone a day early. Not all the problems they had ordering it.

My phone is already showing its arrival in the airport so Fedex will have no problem getting it here tomorrow.

It's bloody awesome news!

 

[Petey-ed]

This is doing one or all of three things:
1) Lightening the load on AT&T servers for activation
2) Lightening the load on Fedex for delivery
3) Good PR for Apple in light of what happened last week with pre-order issues. Basically, here is your reward for being so dedicated to Apple to spend 7 hours trying to pre-order.

 

[Shaddow825]

Yea, I suggested this exact scenario multiple times over the weekend but everyone said no way.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=10215692&#post10215692

It's the only thing after last week that made any sense once Apple's own email started saying June 23rd even before fedex's systems did.

 

[samcraig]

Are you a little kid? I pre-ordered for delivery and I don't even have shipping confirmation yet. Just wait, why do you need to be the first person to get the device? Does it really matter that much?

After reading all of these posts about how pissed people are that their status still shows processing, etc I am starting to wonder what the average age is of a MacRumors member.

+1

Unfortunately it's the "sign of the times"

We live in the internet world where people no longer have ANY patience. Remember when people shipped things and they got there without you being able to track it 2314683 times a day?

Remember when there was no pre-ordering. When you just went to the store and they had a new item that you could purchase?

There is a LITTLE comfort in knowing that most MR users are NOT the general public. That this heightened level of "mania" isn't the majority (at least for Apple products).

The combination of lack of patience AND entitlement, however, are enough to make one hit their head against their desk and repeat several times.

 

[uberamd]

+1

Unfortunately it's the "sign of the times"

We live in the internet world where people no longer have ANY patience. Remember when people shipped things and they got there without you being able to track it 2314683 times a day?

Remember when there was no pre-ordering. When you just went to the store and they had a new item that you could purchase?

There is a LITTLE comfort in knowing that most MR users are NOT the general public. That this heightened level of "mania" isn't the majority (at least for Apple products).

The combination of lack of patience AND entitlement, however, are enough to make one hit their head against their desk and repeat several times.

I am only 22 so I don't remember many of the long shipping waits and lack of tracking, but still I am astounded by the lack of patience of people here. Good things come to those who wait.

Heck, my little sisters were never this impatient on Christmas morning.

 

[Built]

I disagree. This is not an overburden to FedEx. They are far more capable than you think/want to believe - even not in "xmas mode."

And FedEx has never dictated terms before just like you want to argue that Apple could have done this before.

Absolutely, you are correct on every point.

 

[aforty]

Are you a little kid? I pre-ordered for delivery and I don't even have shipping confirmation yet. Just wait, why do you need to be the first person to get the device? Does it really matter that much?

After reading all of these posts about how pissed people are that their status still shows processing, etc I am starting to wonder what the average age is of a MacRumors member.

How is it fair that I pre-ordered like everyone else except I opted to wait in line for launch day festivities and as a result I end up getting mine later than the people who chose delivery to their house? I feel bad for you with your order status, I really do, and I think it's just as unfair as if you don't get yours on the 24th as people getting theirs early. Apple screwed the pooch on this one.

And no, don't let my name fool you.

 

[HarrisonB]

if the courier was to hold a certain parcel dont you think it would just cause massive congestion in the sorting system, there will be hundreds and hundreds to pick out and then store for one day and then drop them back in to re sort again.

No, and they did it last year.

 

[aforty]

+1

Unfortunately it's the "sign of the times"

We live in the internet world where people no longer have ANY patience. Remember when people shipped things and they got there without you being able to track it 2314683 times a day?

Remember when there was no pre-ordering. When you just went to the store and they had a new item that you could purchase?

There is a LITTLE comfort in knowing that most MR users are NOT the general public. That this heightened level of "mania" isn't the majority (at least for Apple products).

The combination of lack of patience AND entitlement, however, are enough to make one hit their head against their desk and repeat several times.

You people don't cease to amaze me. Get off your high horse. If Apple had announced that people who opted for in-store pickup were to get theirs early, you and many other people would be screaming bloody murder right now.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

You said it best when you said you have no idea.

As FedEx is, and has been a client of mine for well over 15 years - I can assure you - the "load" for this delivery isn't an issue.

As for "where did I said FedEx dictated terms" - you're right. You didn't write it. But you did write "The most logical reason IMHO is that FedEx told Apple that it needed to start delivering phones as soon as it rec'd them or they might not be able to deliver them all on the 24th."

That's pretty much implying that FedEx told Apple "let us do it our way."

As another has said - server load is COMPLETELY different than delivery in terms of strategy and planning.

(pssssst Fed Ex and every other package delivery company doesn't only rely on their teams/fleet to deliver packages during the ROUTING phase of delivery)

1) Yeah, sure, but I stayed in a Holiday Inn last night. I've done, and do work for Fortune 500 companies too, but that doesn't mean I know the ins and outs of their business. I doubt you do either.

2) ASKING to do it their way is not dictating. That is all I was suggesting. Dictating would be "Either we do it our way or find another shipper." I never implied that FedEx was dictating anything, you inferred it. Sorry you made an incorrect inference.

3) I never suggested server load had any relation to how a package delivery company delivers packages. It was used to suggest Apple did not want other PR disaster. Please don't put words in my mouth.

4) Routing teams? WTH are you talking about? I know what I was talking about -- I have a FedEx driver, it's the same one that comes around day after day, week after week. He has a route. He knows every address on the route whether he delivers frequently or not and he comes in a small time window like clock work. When he goes on vaca all hell breaks out. Deliveries are slower and maybe you and your neighbor have to swap packages.

 

[IBradMac]

You will not get your phone on the 23rd. This happens every freaking year.
You will receive it on the 24th or after.

 

[uberamd]

How is it fair that I pre-ordered like everyone else except I opted to wait in line for launch day festivities and as a result I end up getting mine later than the people who chose delivery to their house? I feel bad for you with your order status, I really do, and I think it's just as unfair as if you don't get yours on the 24th as people getting theirs early. Apple screwed the pooch on this one.

And no, don't let my name fool you.

Nah, it isn't not fair. It is lucky for those getting it on the 23rd, and as expected to those getting it on the 24th. I hope I get mine on the 24th, but if I don't, I don't. I ordered at 1PM Central Time, and lots of people who ordered after me are getting theirs on the 23rd already. Is it fair? Sure. Why? Because I know AT&T is scrambling like mad getting everything ready, and I don't know how their system works to comment on why some who ordered later are getting theirs earlier. Its just life.

Plus I have terrible luck to begin with, so if I get mine at all I will consider myself lucky. With my luck the FedEx truck will explode in my driveway and destroy my phone.

 

[Nde]

A
Total
Turd

will fail on 24th and Jobs is trying to help all the Apple user by pushing the delivery up. Thanks Steve... Much appreciated.

 

[uberamd]

4) Routing teams? WTH are you talking about?

There is a phase when massive quantities of packages are transported together to central hubs before being split to smaller locations.

 

[Sketchr]

You will not get your phone on the 23rd. This happens every freaking year.
You will receive it on the 24th or after.

At this point, I won't be surprised by anything.

While the speculation of early delivery happens every year, you have to admit this is the first year of leaks, pre-order crash and unexpected high demand. Also, I don't believe special emails were delivered notifying of an early date in prior years. The question remains whether it is legit. I personally could not care less if it is delivered tomorrow or not.

We will have to wait and see.

 

[djransom]

You will not get your phone on the 23rd. This happens every freaking year.
You will receive it on the 24th or after.

Steve Jobs has spoken. Let's lock this thread up now

 

[samcraig]

Chupa - I'm not going to get further into this. As I said - I speak from a point of knowledge when it comes to FedEx. And you do not by self-admission.

As for you comment about routing - it's clear you don't understand what I was talking about - so I'll make it clearer.

After FedEx takes your package and BEFORE the guy that YOU KNOW delivers your package - FedEx and other companies do not JUST rely on their own employees or companies to get the package from one place to another. In other words - the "load" is shared.

 

[oldschooldude]

Nah, it isn't not fair. It is lucky for those getting it on the 23rd, and as expected to those getting it on the 24th. I hope I get mine on the 24th, but if I don't, I don't. I ordered at 1PM Central Time, and lots of people who ordered after me are getting theirs on the 23rd already. Is it fair? Sure. Why? Because I know AT&T is scrambling like mad getting everything ready, and I don't know how their system works to comment on why some who ordered later are getting theirs earlier. Its just life.

Plus I have terrible luck to begin with, so if I get mine at all I will consider myself lucky. With my luck the FedEx truck will explode in my driveway and destroy my phone.

Yeah, what he said.

And one other point to add:

Everyone ordering the new phone MADE HIS/HER CHOICE on how they would get it - NO ONE FORCED YOU TO MAKE THE CHOICE YOU DID.

That being said, it will be a stroke of luck to receive it on the 23rd for those of us that initially received a delivery date of the 24th.

 

[Interstella5555]

Are you a little kid? I pre-ordered for delivery and I don't even have shipping confirmation yet. Just wait, why do you need to be the first person to get the device? Does it really matter that much?

After reading all of these posts about how pissed people are that their status still shows processing, etc I am starting to wonder what the average age is of a MacRumors member.

3, with the sense of entitlement of a 2 year old and the maturity level of a 1 year old.