OK thanks... I plan to use in my MBP ... I guessed wrong that I needed to set up the SSD for the MBP before installing Mountain Lion... no wno idea what I should do.... but thank for the help, I'll work it out I'm sure.
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OK thanks... I plan to use in my MBP ... I guessed wrong that I needed to set up the SSD for the MBP before installing Mountain Lion... no wno idea what I should do.... but thank for the help, I'll work it out I'm sure.
When I got my Samsung 830, I wondered whether or not to enable trim. In researching the issue, I came across this question:
"Given that Apple uses the same controller in their shipped MBP with SSD's and the Apple engineers decided to enable TRIM, why wouldn't you?"
I decided to enable trim.
Go here and download TRIM Enabler and remember to enable after every OS update.
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Nothing easier than to put a Samsung 830 in your MBP.
If you can work a screwdriver, you're home free.
I did this:
1. Bought an external enclosure and put the Samsung 830 in there.
2. Carbon Copy Clone'd (Google and download the free trial). the existing hard drive to the Samsung in the enclosure.
3. Swapped out the hard drives.
Once you install, go into disk utility and set the Samsung as the startup disk.
Then download Trim Enabler and you've just completed the best upgrade you'll ever perform on that MBP.
Understood, and I agree that the risk of enabling TRIM is low due to the controllers being identical. Obviously Apple changed something in the firmware so that TRIM is enabled by default. I was just looking for feedback from some of the seasoned early adopters. I also enabled it, but I'd hate to have something bad happen later down the road that was potentially a consequence of my decision to turn it on from the get-go.
I'm no firmware expert, but I'd bet that all that Samsung changed was a device identity string.
Firmware upgrade with Samsung 830?
I am a complete noob when it comes to ssds even though I am fairly comfortable with upgrading my computer.
Just curious. I keep reading about firmware upgrades needed for ssds. Is this necessary for the Samsung 830? or can I just pop it in like a regular harddrive and migrate my system over?
For some reason I was given the impression that the samsung 830 doesn't require an immediate firmware upgrade like the crucial m4 which is why I was leaning towards this one. Is that correct? (for a 2009 MBP)
I'm coming from a 5400rpm hard drive and I don't care if my speeds aren't bleeding edge (which I understand they won't be because I only have a Sata II connection) but I do want my computer to be stable and work.
I am a complete noob when it comes to ssds even though I am fairly comfortable with upgrading my computer.
Just curious. I keep reading about firmware upgrades needed for ssds. Is this necessary for the Samsung 830? or can I just pop it in like a regular harddrive and migrate my system over?
For some reason I was given the impression that the samsung 830 doesn't require an immediate firmware upgrade like the crucial m4 which is why I was leaning towards this one. Is that correct? (for a 2009 MBP)
I'm coming from a 5400rpm hard drive and I don't care if my speeds aren't bleeding edge (which I understand they won't be because I only have a Sata II connection) but I do want my computer to be stable and work.
Thanks for your time in replying Steve, I guessed I could enable trim from a Windows machine but this is all about the OS, so I understand now... fitting the SSD was a doddle, ML installed in no time and I have enabled trim using the well known app. Everything very good here
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The only way to test for a firmware update is to stick the 830 in a Windows PC and install the Magician software. My 830 received this week did not need the update.
Describe your symptoms, Tonsko. I have a mid-2010 MBP and it sleeps fine with the 830.
Thanks for your time in replying Steve, I guessed I could enable trim from a Windows machine but this is all about the OS, so I understand now... fitting the SSD was a doddle, ML installed in no time and I have enabled trim using the well known app. Everything very good here
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The only way to test for a firmware update is to stick the 830 in a Windows PC and install the Magician software. My 830 received this week did not need the update.
I've just recieved 512gb samsung 830 from amazon. Do you think it's worth checking for firmware update. Is it easy checking with windows PC?
Hey Steve, thanks for the reply.
I installed the drive, installed a blank OS, updated and installed TRIMEnabler. When I close the lid it doesn't sleep (the apple symbol on the lid doesn't go out as it might with my current XT drive).
No.
Go ahead and install the drive in the Macbook(?); put TRIM Enabler on and from there check the firmware.
If it's not CXM03B1Q (released Jan 24, 2012)then remove and install in a Windows machine and upgrade with the Magician software; if it's already CXM03B1Q, then you've saved the time on an install.
BTW - If it's not CXM03B1Q, then I'd be REAL surprised.
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The only thing I can think of, and this is a guess, is did you set the drive to be the start up disk in Disk Utility?
If you did, then you may want to open a new thread about your MBP's sleeping problems.
Good luck.
... fitting the SSD was a doddle, ML installed in no time and I have enabled trim using the well known app. Everything very good here
"Doddle"? Is that good? You English speak a strange language.
Glad everything's working...
how important is the firmware update?
I have a 2010 13 " MBP running 10.6.8. I'm going to install an SSD and I'm leaning toward the Samsung 830. I don't have any experience with Windows; I don't have the slightest idea how Bootcamp works nor have I the time to learn about it. So my question is: how important is the firmware update for my SATA II? If I'm not willing to hassle updating the Samsung, should I choose a more Mac-friendly SSD like Crucial M4? Thanks in advance.
I have a 2010 13 " MBP running 10.6.8. I'm going to install an SSD and I'm leaning toward the Samsung 830. I don't have any experience with Windows; I don't have the slightest idea how Bootcamp works nor have I the time to learn about it. So my question is: how important is the firmware update for my SATA II? If I'm not willing to hassle updating the Samsung, should I choose a more Mac-friendly SSD like Crucial M4? Thanks in advance.
"Doddle"? Is that good? You English speak a strange language.
Glad everything's working...
Haha, "was a doddle" is a term us Brits use meaning, "it was easy"! I could have said "was a piece of cake!"
Is this a widespread issue? Because this is the first I've heard of it. I have a mid-2010 MBP and I have no issues at all. This is my second SSD, my first was a Crucial m4 and I swapped it due to other issues, but I didn't have sleep issues with that either. However, I've read that when the SSD is placed in the ODD and used as the boot drive, you will experience issues like this. Is this your setup? Or are you a single drive setup with no HDD?
I just removed my Plextor M3 256GB ssd and installed a 830 512GB into my MBP (early 2009) (10.8.2), but now the system seems 'less reliable'. Booting often takes a long time, apps seem to freeze and Fusion frequently hangs (and my Win 7 vm often crashes). With my Plextor M3 installed the system was rock solid. Trim is enabled (through Terminal) but disabling it temporary didn't solve these issues.
Could it be the nVidea chipset interferring with the 830? Anybody else experiencing similar issues?
Could it be the nVidea chipset interferring with the 830? Anybody else experiencing similar issues?
I've used both SSDs with only SATA II and both work well. If you buy a recent one of either product, it should be fine. Samsung hasn't had a FW release for the 830 in a while, but the m4 has had about 3 in the past several months. Only one was mandatory as it dealt with a bug regarding MTBF. I prefer the Samsung because it's faster and more reliable and especially now that the price difference is almost negligible between the two, I can't see any reason to not get it.
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Not really knowledgeable with hardware but I did a similar SSD swap the other week and experienced somewhat similar symptoms. I discovered that it was due to a bad clone. I wiped the system and started from scratch and everything works as it should. Maybe this happened to you? You can try doing this and if it doesn't do anything, you can always just restore from backup again.
Thanks and you're probably right, reinstalling could work yet I was hoping to solve these issues with a less time consuming solution
I'll do it this weekend and report back.
Thanks and you're probably right, reinstalling could work yet I was hoping to solve these issues with a less time consuming solution
Haha, yes. That's what I thought too. But, I knew it probably would be the easiest way to fix it.
Correct. SSD is my only drive, replaced the Samsung XT (which in turn replaced the Apple OEM drive). No problems with the XT.
HI! New to this forum and also SSDs. I have read all the posts in this thread now, but I am still a bit confused.
I am going to install the 830 128gb into my optical drive space with a caddy for the purpose (just waiting for the caddy to arrive). I have a MBP 15" mid 2009 8GB RAM. Running ML.
I am aware that I will only get SATA II speeds and also that I probably wont need Firmware update (By the way I have no windows installed).
So my question is: Do i need any of the copying/booting from USB drive as my original HDD will stay in its place. Can I just copy the ML installation file over to my SSD after physicly installing it, or how do I go about?
Actually after a quick search I cant find my ML DMG or ZIP. Will I have to download it again from appstore, and if so will I have to pay again.
Finaly e neewb question: all those speedometer screenshots you all post, are they from magician, or some mac OS function, or what?
I am going to install the 830 128gb into my optical drive space with a caddy for the purpose (just waiting for the caddy to arrive). I have a MBP 15" mid 2009 8GB RAM. Running ML.
I am aware that I will only get SATA II speeds and also that I probably wont need Firmware update (By the way I have no windows installed).
So my question is: Do i need any of the copying/booting from USB drive as my original HDD will stay in its place. Can I just copy the ML installation file over to my SSD after physicly installing it, or how do I go about?
Actually after a quick search I cant find my ML DMG or ZIP. Will I have to download it again from appstore, and if so will I have to pay again.
Finaly e neewb question: all those speedometer screenshots you all post, are they from magician, or some mac OS function, or what?
What exactly are you trying to accomplish with adding a SSD to your system? If you're planning on keeping both drives, I would recommend moving your non-SSD drive to the optical bay and installing your new SSD into the regular HD slot only because there have been numerous reports of issues with running a SSD in the optical bay on various systems.
In your particular case, and with your particular configuration, I would recommend using the SSD for the OS and Applications, and use the HD just for your data. Space permitting, you could use Carbon Copy Cloner to move everything from your HD to your SSD. If this isn't possible due to space constraints, your best bet would be to do a fresh install of ML to your SSD. There are definitely other places that you can obtain InstallESD.dmg -- just make sure that you verify the MD5 of whatever you source.
The screenshots are from Blackmagic Disk Speed Test, which is available in the App Store.