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The Samsung 840/840 Pro SSD thread

SandboxGeneral said:
Try holding down the "option" key while booting instead so that the boot choices appear.



Try using just a CD as a DVD is overkill for the amount of space needed to accomplish this task. Also don't do step 5 in your list above.
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So the good news is that it showed up when I held option! It booted into some lines of code stuff. Of course the SSD isn't installed yet so no idea if it will work then, but so far so good. It gave an error 20 or something, assuming because it can't detect the SSD.

Thanks guys
 
Quick question here:

In the case of installing a new 840, is it not possible to simply insert the 840 into the MBP and initialize the drive from there while keeping the Hitachi as a secondary?

I don't want to mirror my current HDD as it has a copy of lion which is just a god awful OS. I plan to install Snow Leopard on the SSD.
 
phaedarus said:
Quick question here:

In the case of installing a new 840, is it not possible to simply insert the 840 into the MBP and initialize the drive from there while keeping the Hitachi as a secondary?
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Yes, that will work. (You'll need an external case or optical bay bracket for the Hitachi.)

I don't want to mirror my current HDD as it has a copy of lion which is just a god awful OS. I plan to install Snow Leopard on the SSD.
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My sentiments precisely-I'm still on Sno Lep too. Snow Leopard is dead! Long live Snow Leopard!

I wonder if Migration Assistant will let you migrate from a newer OS to an older one. Seems unlikely. You'll probably have restore everything manually. At least you'll have a fast drive to do the work on :cool:
 
Question; is the Samsung 830 still a good drive for those who can't quite spring for the 840 Pro but also not really interested in the 840 basic?

Also what's firmware updates from macs like for the 830?

Thanks in advance.
 
any suggestion ?

Hi,

After a big research on the market i finally upgrade my mbp (early 2011) with the samsung 840pro. The best upgrade i ever done :). Throw the installation everything was smooth, i cloned my old hd (using CCC) to the 840pro, i installed the ssd (i experienced for the first time a really fast boot) i enabled Trim (trim enabler) and since then i am very pleased. Today though i noticed that when i am checking the storage from about this mac, i can just see the section otherand all the rest (music - photos - etc) are to 0 kb. Its like my ssd sees everything like other. Does anyone experienced the same or knows how i could resolve this..any ideas are more than welcome :eek:
 
hey guys/girls,

So the other day I purchased the 840 250gig on sale at a local Canada Computers here in Toronto. It was $169CAD... I was on the market for one for a while now to slot in my Late 2009 MBP. I even purchased an optical bay chasis a few months before in preparation.

So, I did a little reasearch prior to cloning my current HD via CCC but not enough becuase I cloned it and then realized after that the firmware was older (06) and the current is (07). Mind you everything is running fine, I've cloned HD via CCC before. I started it up a few times and used various apps to see the speed.

My question is, is there a difference with the current firmware? Do I really need to install it? I already took my optical drive out for Gods sake. I've cloned my HD already too!. From what I've read, I'm going to have to put my freaking Optical drive back in. Re-format the SSD. Burn an effing .iso, restart my mbp a few times to update it, and then go back to cloning my HD. GRRRRARRRGHHHHH!!!!!JFKDL:JFK:SDLJFK:L
Oh yeah and I'll have to get a connector/2.5" HD case as well because I got the stand alone SSD w/out the installation stuff.
Yeah I'm sure the new firmware will optimize my new 840 and will probably bump up the read/writes a little bit more (131/278) mind you my MBP is SATAII and I will not avail of the speed of a SATAIII.

But do you guys recommend that I do this now laborous task of updating the firmware???
Thanks
 
akswun said:
hey guys/girls,

So the other day I purchased the 840 250gig on sale at a local Canada Computers here in Toronto. It was $169CAD... I was on the market for one for a while now to slot in my Late 2009 MBP. I even purchased an optical bay chasis a few months before in preparation.

So, I did a little reasearch prior to cloning my current HD via CCC but not enough becuase I cloned it and then realized after that the firmware was older (06) and the current is (07). Mind you everything is running fine, I've cloned HD via CCC before. I started it up a few times and used various apps to see the speed.

My question is, is there a difference with the current firmware? Do I really need to install it? I already took my optical drive out for Gods sake. I've cloned my HD already too!. From what I've read, I'm going to have to put my freaking Optical drive back in. Re-format the SSD. Burn an effing .iso, restart my mbp a few times to update it, and then go back to cloning my HD. GRRRRARRRGHHHHH!!!!!JFKDL:JFK:SDLJFK:L
Oh yeah and I'll have to get a connector/2.5" HD case as well because I got the stand alone SSD w/out the installation stuff.
Yeah I'm sure the new firmware will optimize my new 840 and will probably bump up the read/writes a little bit more (131/278) mind you my MBP is SATAII and I will not avail of the speed of a SATAIII.

But do you guys recommend that I do this now laborous task of updating the firmware???
Thanks
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You don't NEED to, but it might increase the speed a little. I would. I'm pretty sure the update isn't destructive though, so no need to reclone. That is a small plus. Why not just update the 840 using a different computer? Then you don't need to go through the install process again
 
Yes you should update firmware, not for the sake of speed, but for the sake of the drive. Software isn't usually important to keep up-to-date with, firmware tends to be more important for the hardware.

That said, you should research a little more into what you actually need to do, most of what you posted is unnecessary. All you need to do is:

  1. Move SSD to original HDD bay
  2. Put optical drive back in
  3. Burn the appropriate ISO from here
  4. Boot from the CD, update the SSD
The whole process should take you no longer than 1 hour, especially considering you've already done it before.

As mentioned above, it's not a destructive update. I did my update without any trouble/loss of data. You don't need to reformat or re-clone.
 
andy9l said:
Yes you should update firmware, not for the sake of speed, but for the sake of the drive. Software isn't usually important to keep up-to-date with, firmware tends to be more important for the hardware.

That said, you should research a little more into what you actually need to do, most of what you posted is unnecessary. All you need to do is:

  1. Move SSD to original HDD bay
  2. Put optical drive back in
  3. Burn the appropriate ISO from here
  4. Boot from the CD, update the SSD
The whole process should take you no longer than 1 hour, especially considering you've already done it before.

As mentioned above, it's not a destructive update. I did my update without any trouble/loss of data. You don't need to reformat or re-clone.
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Sage advice. I've always been diligent with firmware updates & never experienced a problem.

After using several other top brands of SSD's in the last few years, I must say these 840's are not only fast as compared to the competition, but with the eight I'm using I've yet to have a single problem.
 
I am trying to update the firmware (840 500GB)...

All I get is the error : No bootable device.. please insert blabla

Have been trying with DVDs,CDs ... no success. Any clues?
The SSD is in the original HDD Bay (Macbook Pro 15" 2012)
 
fotuwe said:
I am trying to update the firmware (840 500GB)...

All I get is the error : No bootable device.. please insert blabla

Have been trying with DVDs,CDs ... no success. Any clues?
The SSD is in the original HDD Bay (Macbook Pro 15" 2012)
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Is the disc in your SuperDrive? If your using an external CD-ROM it won't work.
 
Yes it is.
Burned the cd/DVD with Disk Utility.
Restart Mac + Alt --> select "Windows" Boot.
After that the Message appears..
 
andy9l said:
Yes you should update firmware, not for the sake of speed, but for the sake of the drive. Software isn't usually important to keep up-to-date with, firmware tends to be more important for the hardware.

That said, you should research a little more into what you actually need to do, most of what you posted is unnecessary. All you need to do is:

  1. Move SSD to original HDD bay
  2. Put optical drive back in
  3. Burn the appropriate ISO from here
  4. Boot from the CD, update the SSD
The whole process should take you no longer than 1 hour, especially considering you've already done it before.

As mentioned above, it's not a destructive update. I did my update without any trouble/loss of data. You don't need to reformat or re-clone.
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Awesome thanks. Thought I had to reformat the SSD before updating the firmware. Looks like I'm halfway there. And I don't need to do any extra steps. Should I use the CD/Program that Samsung included or just burn the .Iso and go from there?
 
Will formatting the SSD after the FW update remove the firmware? Or can I update the firmware and then do the usual format stuff.
 
johnnnw said:
Will formatting the SSD after the FW update remove the firmware? Or can I update the firmware and then do the usual format stuff.
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Formatting an SSD will not reverse any firmware revisions. You can do the FW first or second to the formatting; it makes no difference.
 
akswun said:
Awesome thanks. Thought I had to reformat the SSD before updating the firmware. Looks like I'm halfway there. And I don't need to do any extra steps. Should I use the CD/Program that Samsung included or just burn the .Iso and go from there?
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I simply burned the appropriate .ISO from that link to a CD, then booted from the CD, and followed the on-screen instructions :)

Remember to get the .ISO from the Mac section of that page (at the bottom).

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/samsungssd/downloads.html
 
andy9l said:
I simply burned the appropriate .ISO from that link to a CD, then booted from the CD, and followed the on-screen instructions :)

Remember to get the .ISO from the Mac section of that page (at the bottom).

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/samsungssd/downloads.html
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well that was easy. Just popped in the optical drive. burned the iso in disk utility. I swear the FW update was faster than me putting the optical drive back in.
Anyway my write speed is up to 205 and read is 206. Going to try to apply TRIM and other tweaks to optimize it a little more.
Thanks for the support guys.
 
akswun said:
well that was easy. Just popped in the optical drive. burned the iso in disk utility. I swear the FW update was faster than me putting the optical drive back in.
Anyway my write speed is up to 205 and read is 206. Going to try to apply TRIM and other tweaks to optimize it a little more.
Thanks for the support guys.
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This worked for me to enable TRIM. Excellent guide, with a guide to reverse the changes too if anything were to go wrong.

http://digitaldj.net/2011/07/21/trim-enabler-for-lion/

I personally prefer using this method over downloading an app - just personal preference though!

Remember to enable TRIM after every OS update :)
 
slow read/write 840 pro iMac 2011

Hi there,

after a long search and investigation about what could be a nice upgrade for my 27inch 2011 model i thought that the 840 pro would be the best choice,
Now i just got the computer back and with blackmagic disk speed i dont get any faster read/writes faster then 300MB/s
Did i miss something? i really thought it would be closer to 500MB/s read/write
i am very disappointed and cant see why the extra bugs spend on the pro version is not giving me faster performance..
I got the SSD placed in my DVD rom that is gone now, i also saw that if i want to upgrade the firmware i need to burn :mad::mad: the ISO
Any help or tips or is this simply it?
tnx!
 
snuffeltje said:
Hi there,

after a long search and investigation about what could be a nice upgrade for my 27inch 2011 model i thought that the 840 pro would be the best choice,
Now i just got the computer back and with blackmagic disk speed i dont get any faster read/writes faster then 300MB/s
Did i miss something? i really thought it would be closer to 500MB/s read/write
i am very disappointed and cant see why the extra bugs spend on the pro version is not giving me faster performance..
I got the SSD placed in my DVD rom that is gone now, i also saw that if i want to upgrade the firmware i need to burn :mad::mad: the ISO
Any help or tips or is this simply it?
tnx!
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Sounds like the SuperDrive bay isn't running at full SATA III speed. Try putting the SSD in the primary drive location and put the original drive in the SuperDrive spot.
 
snuffeltje said:
Hi there,

after a long search and investigation about what could be a nice upgrade for my 27inch 2011 model i thought that the 840 pro would be the best choice,
Now i just got the computer back and with blackmagic disk speed i dont get any faster read/writes faster then 300MB/s
Did i miss something? i really thought it would be closer to 500MB/s read/write
i am very disappointed and cant see why the extra bugs spend on the pro version is not giving me faster performance..
I got the SSD placed in my DVD rom that is gone now, i also saw that if i want to upgrade the firmware i need to burn :mad::mad: the ISO
Any help or tips or is this simply it?
tnx!
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Is it possible the 2011 iMac isn't SATAIII? This would certainly explain the speed cut if it was running 3gb/s SATAII
 
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