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The Shattered Gorilla Glass Thread-Please Post Yours Here Too!

macduke said:
Yeah, it's not so much being irresponsible as it is being a human being.....Nobody is running around chucking their phones out windows or doing anything purposeful. They're fracking sliding off tables onto linoleum and leaving spider-web cracks all over the glass. That's not being irresponsible. Have you ever broken a dish? Or tripped over something? Or forgotten your mom's birthday? We're all human..... But the fact that people can drop their previous 3 iPhones and they survive well in most cases and people with brand new iPhones are dropping them once and they are breaking is kind of a problem for a PORTABLE device.....Portable means we bring it out with us to do the things in the real world that we want to do. That's what all those apps are for. What is even worse is that people with cases are even having problems.

Like I said in another post, my wife works with autistic children in the surrounding 25 counties......

The thing is, while many people might not have a job as crazy as my wife's, lots of people have lives that they live, and they shouldn't have to worry that one little accident will set them back a few hundred dollars in repair charges. One little bump shouldn't be an instant death.....The iPhone 4's glass isn't really protected on the sides, and that leaves it wide open to shattering. You'd think that making some improvements there would help things a lot.
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Well this is where you and I split.... IF you have a $700 item that is made of glass and you drop it, put it in your pocket then try and move a piano, push it off a table/counter, put it in an un-secure pocket, step on it, run it over with a truck ect ect you are being irresponsible with it. IF you use the phone as it was intended and designed YOU WILL NOT BREAK IT. Now, as I have said over and over and over again, I know accidents happen but just because they do, doesn't mean the person is being responsible with their phone, iPhone or other wise. I bring my iPhone out into the world, I use it every day. I pull it out of my pocket 100+ times a day. I put it on my desk, table, counter, car seat, many times a day. I accidentally dropped it onto a tile floor (because I wasn't paying attention aka not being responsible) and dented the ss bezel but didn't break the glass.... I was lucky.

My son is on the spectrum so I salute your wife, thank her for her dedication and hard work.

People don't have to worry about breaking their iPhone... if they are in a situation where the phone may get abused because of every day life, maybe an iPhone isn't the best device for them. (sounds like your wife is a smart cookie for knowing this, to bad lots of others aren't) IF they decide to get an iPhone, THEY have decided that the fact it could break after the first fall (which can happen to ANY phone) is not as important as owning the phone. The design is what it is. People know the edges are exposed yet still buy the phone. I don't understand why it's so hard for people to grasp the concept that expensive electronic devices, phone or other wise, may break if you "abuse" them. (abuse meaning treat it in a way it wasn't designed to be treated aka dropping ect.)

Bottom line, if you (population of the world) buy an iPhone 4 which is made of metal and glass and you drop it, it might break on the first drop period, end of story. IF you want to take the chance then put it in an otter box or other tough case or don't buy the phone. Either way, you take a chance when you walk around with $700 worth of electronics in your hand.
 
the thing is although jobs said its 30x stronger, stronger is an ambiguous word when it comes to things like this.

Glass can withstand bending quite well with a high load. I mean if you have a large sheet of metal and hold it at the edges it bows in the middle, if you have the same size sheet of glass and do the same it wont. So glass cud be said to be stronger this way.

Now if apple made it so that it can take 30x the load in the middle of said sheet before it snaps bends or whatever than there claim is true. However if you hit the sheet of glass suddenly it will crack or shatter, hit the piece of metal suddenly then nothing will happen / maybe a dent.

So just because the say its 30x stronger doesn't mean that it can withstand drops more. Ive even seen a picture from a video of them testing it by bending it with a force in the middle, this backs up the strength by bending and not a sudden impact. Materials act differently under both situations. Its the impulse on the glass that affects it, not the force.

ie a low force with sudden impact = shatter
a higher force with a slower impact (eg lowering weight onto it or how it is in the test video) = ok

So stop moaning that the glass phone has broken, its obvious if you drop it will break. maybe if you applied a weight onto it slowly it would hold more than previous glass screens though.
 
ag227 said:
the thing is although jobs said its 30x stronger, stronger is an ambiguous word when it comes to things like this.

Glass can withstand bending quite well with a high load. I mean if you have a large sheet of metal and hold it at the edges it bows in the middle, if you have the same size sheet of glass and do the same it wont. So glass cud be said to be stronger this way.

Now if apple made it so that it can take 30x the load in the middle of said sheet before it snaps bends or whatever than there claim is true. However if you hit the sheet of glass suddenly it will crack or shatter, hit the piece of metal suddenly then nothing will happen / maybe a dent.

So just because the say its 30x stronger doesn't mean that it can withstand drops more. Ive even seen a picture from a video of them testing it by bending it with a force in the middle, this backs up the strength by bending and not a sudden impact. Materials act differently under both situations. Its the impulse on the glass that affects it, not the force.

ie a low force with sudden impact = shatter
a higher force with a slower impact (eg lowering weight onto it or how it is in the test video) = ok

So stop moaning that the glass phone has broken, its obvious if you drop it will break. maybe if you applied a weight onto it slowly it would hold more than previous glass screens though.
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You sound a bit like an engineer and Jobs is a marketing man. 30 times stronger suggests that it withstands physical stress more. "Magical and revolutionary" brought 256MB in a tablet computer with no Flash, I didn't expect anything else from Jobs but something lame as this.
 
Obviously Some People Do Not KNow How to READ!

I created this thread not for debate, not for argument, not for issues related to whether the phone should be made of glass or not. My thought as stated in the opening statement was this was to be a place hopefully that people could post pictures of their phones should they have an accident, which meant an unintentional circumstance whereby their phones back or front was broken or shattered. That's it.

Its now turned into a bunch of little debates, should the phone have been made of glass, of titanium, of metal, plastic, whatever......then we move on to those who point fingers of irresponsibility, then the throw accusations of abuse and neglect start flying, intentional destruction. Come on people not what this was about.

Everyone at some point or another is going to drop this glass phone, maybe it will shatter, maybe it won't, that wasn't e point, not what I was trying to do.

It would have been once to have one continuing thread where people could easily find and post their shots and their story instead as another poster stated a plethora of individual threads every time someone INADVERTENTLY dropped their phone. I thought since the mods weren't savvy enough to do this we could perhaps take this on ourselves and stick to the script and in the process reduce the clutter of threads materializing everyday on this very subject. **

I was not talking about intentional destruction and seeking retribution through some heinous and illegal manner, some people have taken this thread far of course and it looks like it too late to get it back on track.*

And now I would like to take a moment to thank those posters who needlessly took time out of their lives, felt they needed to expound on this issue for whatever reason and wrote lengthy verbose irreverent responses, many of which could be considered for graduate dissertations, on *a thread that specifically requested pictures and short text. *By doing so you took control of this thread and ultimately in the wrong direction. *Your the greatest!

I wish I could delete it.*
 
Shattered Glass

I droped my Iphone by Accident last Tuesday glass shatterd and my heart just sank, I've owned 3 different Iphone and have maybe drop them by accident about three times in about 4 or 5 years, it does happen, luckly none has broken tell now. I went to the Apple store showed my phone they ask me how it happen, and they decided to replace it, no charge, they said it was a one time deal
 
Just put a dang case on it and be done with it people.. Geesh...

It's absolutely foolish to think you will never drop a cell phone... A simple case is all that is needed to protect against the accidental drops.

Glass is glass, I don't care what it is called. It can and will scratch and break, regardless of what Steveo says about it being "stronger".
 
At the time, all I could get was the bumber and it still broke with it on, there another thead about another guy with a bumber and his still broke, I like the phone, but it is more fragile then earlier Iphones that I've had I'm waiting to get a better case
 
atomicbatteries said:
And now I would like to take a moment to thank those posters who needlessly took time out of their lives, felt they needed to expound on this issue for whatever reason and wrote lengthy verbose irreverent responses, many of which could be considered for graduate dissertations, on *a thread that specifically requested pictures and short text. *By doing so you took control of this thread and ultimately in the wrong direction. *Your the greatest!

I wish I could delete it.*
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Need a tissue? Welcome to the internet.
 
At the time, all I could get was the bumber and it still broke with it on, there another thead about another guy with a bumber and his still broke, I like the phone, but it is more fragile then earlier Iphones that I've had I'm waiting to get a better case
 
2002cbr600f4i said:
Just put a dang case on it and be done with it people.. Geesh...

It's absolutely foolish to think you will never drop a cell phone... A simple case is all that is needed to protect against the accidental drops.

Glass is glass, I don't care what it is called. It can and will scratch and break, regardless of what Steveo says about it being "stronger".
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You obviously haven't seen the thread(s) about people breaking their phones WHILE IN THE BUMPER either... Hell my 3G screen broke while it was in a Speck Candyshell case. A case helps, but not enough to cover an iPhone covered in glass.
 
I had my phone in a Sena ultraslim case. Was walking with it in my hand yesterday, the phone flew out of the case and landed face down on concrete. Turned it over and this is what I saw.
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I've booked an appointment with Apple and hope they take pity on me. If they don't I'm just going to have to pay the £139.

I dropped my iPhone 3G a handful of times and nothing like this happened, but then again I didn't drop it at such a height. This is the last time I wear shorts without a pocket.
 
"Unintentional" doesn't get you off the hook.

I "unintentionally" dropped a previous phone in my swimming pool. Oops.

The rule is: don't do that.

Glass displays have been on cell phones for years and years. Every phone I've had since my Motorola Star-Tac fell off its belt-clip and was stolen (lesson: don't do that) has had a glass LCD display that's susceptible to breakage.

So I've bought a nice wrap-around case for every phone, including my iPhone. I prefer the MarWare CEO Flip Vue because it's gorgeous and protects the corners so well, and it has a flip-cover that protects the screen and also my privacy (there are times when I prefer the world not see who's calling when it rings).

Recommended.
 
In a British accent, Jony Ives: "it's 30x stronger than plastic" "it's strength is comparable to Saphire Crystal". What a crock and failure on Apples behalf.
 
lilo777 said:
So, you really think that it was a great idea for Apple to make a hand-held device out of glass? So, what's next. Glass casing for MacBook Pro? Any takers?
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In case you haven't noticed, touch screens (at least, touch screens that work) are made of glass.

"Portable" doesn't mean "feel free to drop it." Try that with a camera, for example. Try it with your MacBook Pro, for that matter.

One word of advice: buy your iPhone with a credit card that offers a period of damage-or-loss protection. My American Express card would cover this sort of damage for 90 days. That's plenty of time to procure a nice protective case like the Marware I mentioned in a previous post. But even the best case in the world is no guarantee your phone/camera/laptop won't be damaged if you drop it.

Life has risks.
 
MassiveAttack said:
In a British accent, Jony Ives: "it's 30x stronger than plastic" "it's strength is comparable to Saphire Crystal". What a crock and failure on Apples behalf.
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Sapphire crystal is routinely used in wristwatches. It is a desirable feature. But it is not indestructible. Neither is Corning's Gorilla Glass, also a desirable feature but not indestructible.
 
macduke said:
There weren't this many people having problems with iPhones 1-3 right after launch.
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You have a short memory. All iPhone models had threads here with tales of woe and photos of tragedy after folks dropped 'em. Lesson: don't do that.

Any phone you want to last should be carried in a protective case. Period. This is doubly true of the modern generation of touch-screen phones, which are all (get ready for it) made of glass on at least one side.

The original iPhone with its revolutionary front face of glass was ridiculed by some as total folly due to its breakability. Use. A. Case.
 
I have the Incipio Feather, which I like but I know it will not fully protect it in a hard fall. Too bad because it is such a slim and form case. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
 
Once again, ignorance rules the day. You get one uninformed person that terms the glass on the iPhone 4 as "gorilla glass" and everybody and their mother is using it.

The iPhone 4 DOES NOT USE GORILLA GLASS! Never did Apple state this Verbally or written.

Please stop using the term. It makes the user look ignorant.
 
AbSoluTc said:
Once again, ignorance rules the day. You get one uninformed person that terms the glass on the iPhone 4 as "gorilla glass" and everybody and their mother is using it.

The iPhone 4 DOES NOT USE GORILLA GLASS! Never did Apple state this Verbally or written.

Please stop using the term. It makes the user look ignorant.
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Well then Apple should have used Gorilla Glass but being of the mind set that they do everything better than anyone else the decide to go with sub standard technology and this is what we get, devices that shatter if you look at them the wrong way.
 
AbSoluTc said:
Once again, ignorance rules the day. You get one uninformed person that terms the glass on the iPhone 4 as "gorilla glass" and everybody and their mother is using it.

The iPhone 4 DOES NOT USE GORILLA GLASS! Never did Apple state this Verbally or written.

Please stop using the term. It makes the user look ignorant.
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Can't quote this enough. Gorilla® Glass from Corning is a specific formula for a specific material. In fact I don't think it's actually even really glass, rather some composite material. The iPhone does not contain any of the patented material, and rather uses aircraft-grade aluminosilicate glass.

Both materials are extremely hard and scratch-resistant, but Gorilla Glass is more impact resistant than the glass Apple is using in the iPhone — and it shows.
 
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