They know when they use them, which I and hundreds or even thousands of users on these boards have. The smartphone market is saturated enough to where picking any high-end smartphone is a "good" choice. You can go for any strength, for Samsung it's brute-force of numbers in paper, for Apple is intangible ease-of-use and software coupled with hardware.
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The Smaller iPhone Shouldn't Be Treated Like a Second-Class iPhone
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I always liked the 5\5s design but never had a good reason to upgrade from the 4s… now i can have that design with 4" screen, 6s specs, great battery life for great price. And since I don’t care about the parts they didn’t implement in the SE from the 6s, like the front camera, 3D Touch or faster Touch ID - its a win win in my book!
Not only Apple, every company make smaller screen edition phone less premium spec than it bigger screen edition.
Probably smaller screen phone had less market now and this is what going on for now.
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Adaptation on bigger screen is slow in Europe/USA market but it already start take over, in Asian (except Japan) bigger screen size phone long ago already more famous than smaller screen size phone.
Probably smaller screen phone had less market now and this is what going on for now.
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No longer is, bigger screen size phone is much famous now and iPhone 7 Plus already out sales than iPhone 7.
Adaptation on bigger screen is slow in Europe/USA market but it already start take over, in Asian (except Japan) bigger screen size phone long ago already more famous than smaller screen size phone.
But sometimes that is the case if you need to firm more people or tow something or have more leg and headroom or have a more powerful engine or various other things. Sometimes an SUV will have some features that aren't offered on a sedan and if you want or need those features then your choice would be to go with an SUV. A car analogy in this case lends more support to the system that is in place rather than the opposite of it.
Lets take a minute and look at how much delay there was in preorders this year. Also the longer than expected times to ship phones even 2 months after launch.
We don't have definitive causes of the delays in the Plus models' shipping times, except perhaps the challenges of the Jet Black factory polishing.
Apple may have recognized early on the challenges of designing and supplying the necessary components for the dual lens camera which includes the OIS parts, the cameras, larger ram chips, and so on. Seems they may have decided to get the dual camera in at least one size iPhone to at least have one "Big Feature" this year.
Perhaps next year will be when both, or top 2/3, phones will sport the dual cameras.
We don't have definitive causes of the delays in the Plus models' shipping times, except perhaps the challenges of the Jet Black factory polishing.
Apple may have recognized early on the challenges of designing and supplying the necessary components for the dual lens camera which includes the OIS parts, the cameras, larger ram chips, and so on. Seems they may have decided to get the dual camera in at least one size iPhone to at least have one "Big Feature" this year.
Perhaps next year will be when both, or top 2/3, phones will sport the dual cameras.
I think that depends on the region as I don't see anywhere near as many Plus devices in the wild here and that ranges from out and about to the corporate side of things. They always seem to have stock too whereas the regular device sells out.
There is market for all phone sizes! maybe in Asia people fulling to this giant Phablet trend more often compare to EU, but around here, the most popular screen size that people using is 4"-5" (Android or iPhones).
Good compact (under 4-4,5") phones on the market: iPhone SE, Xiaomi Mi2s, Sony Xperia Compact Z1, ZR and Blackberry Passport. And that's probably all. I don't write not known Chinese brands...
So we have 5 compact phones most of them not produced anymore.
But: Blackberry is deprecated, Xiaomi have problems with your voice in call, Sony ZR have very fragile screen and about Z1 compact... Software is crap and even customs do not let you help at all. But usable.
Guess why I choosed iPhone SE?
So we have 5 compact phones most of them not produced anymore.
But: Blackberry is deprecated, Xiaomi have problems with your voice in call, Sony ZR have very fragile screen and about Z1 compact... Software is crap and even customs do not let you help at all. But usable.
Guess why I choosed iPhone SE?
I just jumped from an SE to a 7,and I can honestly say the speed improvements of the phone itself are very minimal. However the display is much better in the 7 and the 7 has much faster LTE speeds
you make it sound as if a bigger screen where without doubt desirable or the best thing in the world
That why I said it is slow in europe/us country, even review site few years ago mostly cannot accept but now most accepting it and prefer it.
Actually once you use big screen phone and soon you will probably accept it, unless you are extremely reject then you may going back to smaller screen, else you will soon appreciate how better a bigger screen phone are and not look back.
Unless you are downloading 4K video or super large files over LTE the normal user will never see or know the difference..
Us plus users understand that most 4.7 people choose that for its size. That's fine but please stop whining about the few extra features the plus has. If you want those features-get a plus. My hands are actually a lil smaller than average so when my 6+ arrived in Sept. '14 I immediately thought I made the wrong choice. Wrong. After 3 days I was completely used to the 5.5 size. Still love it. If Apple put the few extra features on the 4.7 and not the 5.5, I'd still get the +. And the people that say the + won't fit in their pocket-only if ur wearing something skin tight w tiny pockets and even then the 4.7 won't fit that well either. Overall just accept the fact that 5.5 is the one. If you refuse to buy it still-enjoy your 4.7 and please stop crying about it.
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I think outdated is the wrong word. It makes it seem like it's not a great display. It's a ****in fantastic display. The only diff you notice between it & OLED are the blacks.
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Please stop w the pocket bs. I'm 5'10" and my pluses have always fit in ALL of my pockets w room to spare.
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Really? Portability? Are u serious? We're talking about a one and a half inch difference. Or less than an inch for 4.7 owners. You are ridiculous
Actually using a bigger screen is always better and I accept that as my iPad is much nicer to browse on than my phone. However portability is also very important and the Plus is a very large device. I would have to buy new trousers and jeans just to accommodate the phone and the summer months would be difficult. Everybody I know with a Plus says it's a nice phone but a pain in the backside to carry around. That is a common opinion here and probably the main reason it's less popular.
I believe next year Apple will reduce the bezel to make the phone smaller but with big screen.
If they did that then I could see it gaining popularity. At present a slightly better camera and battery is not enough to account for its size for many of us. If they could do what Samsung have done in regards to reducing bezels, then they'd be onto a winner. I was disappointed when the 7 Plus cane out and no effort had been made in 2 years to evolve its design.I believe next year Apple will reduce the bezel to make the phone smaller but with big screen.
I want the best phone available. The larger size offerings would require me to use a bag or satchel to transport, which is not a reasonable option for me. I understand the dilemma.
Ya is time Apple change design already, it has been using the same design for too long already.
The plus would not fit in my work pocket. I choose to put the phone in a certain pocket for ease of use and to protect it. The 7 model fits perfectly in my work pocket. So, the skinny jeans argument is not always valid.
The iPhone 6 was actually a better phone than the 6+, chiefly because the 6+ didn't work properly. When they got the specs right with the 6S+ the smaller phone did indeed become a second class citizen. It has a dreadful display, worse camera, less RAM and a shorter battery life. That makes it an inferior phone.
As an SE owner, I don't feel like the SE is a "second class" device at all.
It is very fast and the battery life is superb. The small size and light weight are much more important to me than a big screen for media and web.
It comes down to priorities. The SE is the best iPhone for my needs.
It is very fast and the battery life is superb. The small size and light weight are much more important to me than a big screen for media and web.
It comes down to priorities. The SE is the best iPhone for my needs.
Whenever I read "Best anything available" I hear advertising executives toasting each other on a job well done.
I don't have a 4.7" iPhone actually. My past two iPhones were Pluses, and I have a Jet Black Plus on order. When iPhone 6s came out I did get a 4.7" for the Rose Gold color but ended up returning it because it was a 16GB. I remember my time with it fondly though and I didn't miss the Plus size one bit. It's a great size for a phone. If it weren't for the Plus features, including little things like a sharper display and louder speakers, I would probably have tried the 4.7" again and kept it till iPhone 8 come out.
However I get your point and my point is I would have the 4.7" if it were equal to the Plus. The only real difference should be display size.
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This thread was meant more so for the 4.7" 7 model. Whatever suits you though. The SE will and should be a budget phone lacking the bells and whistles, but many people don't mind missing features like Force Touch so the SE has a space in the market as is.
Meanwhile the 4.7" is indeed supposed to be the latest and greatest iPhone 7.