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The camera lens is most likely sapphire like on the 5/5S so I wouldn't be too concerned about that either.

The shiny ring around it isn't sapphire. Plus it will leave marks on furniture etc. Protruding cameras on phones are awful, no matter who says otherwise.
 
They're just antenna bands. I don't see the purpose of NFC. I haven't seen a single person in my life use NFC.

But then again, we don't know.
I suppose we're in different countries, but a large part of the ticket system of trains here in North East England rely on NFC.

Also, NFC can be used in a variety of different ways. Like NFC tags, which personally I think have some really cool uses to them.
http://trendblog.net/creative-and-useful-ways-to-use-nfc-tags-with-your-smartphone/
 
Why is it really widespread in most places? Have barely seen it in Silicon Valley, and you'd think that would be a place where things of that nature would be even more common.


McDonald, 7-11, rite aid, gap, walgreens, Home Depot, gas stations, soda machines that take CC etc etc.

Most modern card readers (last 5 years) are equipped to take mobile payments. We don't notice them because we can't use them.

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McDonald, 7-11, rite aid, gap, walgreens, Home Depot, gas stations, soda machines that take CC etc etc.

Most modern card readers (last 5 years) are equipped to take mobile payments. We don't notice them because we can't use them.

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Perhaps they might take them but it seems like practically no one is actually bothering with using them.
 
NFC can be extremely handy, IF Apple will open up an app to manipulate your own NFC tags.

On Android, currently I use NFC tags with an app called Tasker. With Tasker, you can control ultimately any part of the phone and manipulate it how you want. Fr example, an NFC tag on my night stand - When the phone is placed on it, turns on DND, sets an alarm, turns on a 'power saver mode', turns wifi & BT off.

Not saying Apple will ever release something like this, but just showing an example of how NFC is really useful.

Can also place NFC tags on cars, office, front doors, etc.
 
Perhaps they might take them but it seems like practically no one is actually bothering with using them.


I'd imagine it's a relatively small portion of people using them compared to swiping a card.

I've never seen anyone use passbook at a Starbucks but according to this forum quite a few people do.

What a few individuals notice is statistically flawed and doesn't negate the infrastructure for NFC that is already in place.

I think if Apple were to incorporate it in a simple to use fashion (card info is already stored in keychain) it would really take off.
 
There have been times in the past I used NFC enabled Android phones with Google Wallet at Circle K, McDonalds or Jack In The Box. I'd say a good 70% of the time, the clerk is amazed at the technology and tell me that "They have never seen that before." I have even seen a store clerk a bit scared of the technology... like if I was trying to "hack" or compromise their system with my phone, and he says, "We don't use that here. We can only accept real debit cards."
 
Something else to consider is all those breaks are being filled by people doing mockups. We don't know what those breaks are going to be filled with, how the coloring will be, etc.

Reserve judgement until the 9th.
 
Chicago reporting in, also never seen anyone actually use NFC.

I travel the US. There is no NFC anywhere.

Actually just to add to this, I was in Walgreens yesterday and there was a reader on the card swiper. I asked the clerk if she knew what it was. She had no idea. I asked her if anyone in the store knew what it was. She called over the manager and the manager explained to me in measured grave tones that it was "for a special Walgreens Card that didn't work out." "Ah I see," I said. And I left.
 
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The shiny ring around it isn't sapphire. Plus it will leave marks on furniture etc. Protruding cameras on phones are awful, no matter who says otherwise.

Ouch. I hadn't thought of that. Don't put that iPhone on the cherry table!
 
I wasn't being sarcastic or narky. I'm just very surprised as nfc style payments have taken off in the uk in a big way.

We have Oyster cards for the underground, most train companies are moving over to nfc to do away with tickets.

Various fast food places McDonald's kfc Burger King etc etc all take contact less Mac payments. Starbucks Costa coffee I could go on and on.

Hell we have places taking PayPal payments and have done for a while.
 
Haha...I guess? Not really funny, if that's what you were going for.

But no, if you took an extra .5 seconds to look at my location, or just glance at it, you'd know that I am in Florida.

Never seen NFC..never.

I'm from Houston, Tx. And I haven't seen anyone use NFC, ever.
 
They are antenna breaks. So they do serve a purpose.

Exactly. It looks just like the antennas that HTC has a patent on (and for which Apple has a cross-license).

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Be nice if they served some other purpose. I could overlook their appearance if that was the case.

Interestingly, Apple has a patent on putting NFC antennas at top and bottom, so either end can be used to "tap" (I hate that word, since you only have to put the phone next to the reader, not physcially bump it).

But no, if you took an extra .5 seconds to look at my location, or just glance at it, you'd know that I am in Florida.

Never seen NFC..never.

My daughter just left Florida where she had lived for years. She used her Android phone constantly to pay via NFC.

Gas, fast food, Home Deport, pharmacy.

Chicago reporting in, also never seen anyone actually use NFC.

You live in Chicago and never heard of the Ventra card for the Transit system? Those readers also take NFC from phones.

I use my credit card with them all the time. Just *tap!*

Yep, many contactless credit cards use NFC. People who are interested in an overview of such cards and NFC are politely directed to my previous post here.

NFC is coming to the US in a very big way, very soon, because of the mandate by credit card companies that every pay terminal accept contactless EMV cards (which means smartphones will work as well).

Because of the coming change, it is the right time for Apple to finally jump on the NFC bandwagon.
 
McDonald, 7-11, rite aid, gap, walgreens, Home Depot, gas stations, soda machines that take CC etc etc.

Most modern card readers (last 5 years) are equipped to take mobile payments. We don't notice them because we can't use them.

Not only have I never actually seen anyone use NFC for mobile payment, having owned several Android phones with Google Wallet setup and with NFC capabilities, I never used it myself. Not once did it ever even cross my mind to do so. And I used the Starbucks app on my iPhone to pay for stuff there constantly, so it's not like the entire concept of mobile payments is foreign to me.
 
Exactly. It looks just like the antennas that HTC has a patent on (and for which Apple has a cross-license).

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Interestingly, Apple has a patent on putting NFC antennas at top and bottom, so either end can be used to "tap" (I hate that word, since you only have to put the phone next to the reader, not physcially bump it).



My daughter just left Florida where she had lived for years. She used her Android phone constantly to pay via NFC.

Gas, fast food, Home Deport, pharmacy.



You live in Chicago and never heard of the Ventra card for the Transit system? Those readers also take NFC from phones.



Yep, many contactless credit cards use NFC. People who are interested in an overview of such cards and NFC are politely directed to my previous post here.

NFC is coming to the US in a very big way, very soon, because of the mandate by credit card companies that every pay terminal accept contactless EMV cards (which means smartphones will work as well).

Because of the coming change, it is the right time for Apple to finally jump on the NFC bandwagon.
The credit cards generally use RFID for what they do. The whole EMV thing is also fairly unrelated to and separate from NFC (or even RFID) as far as I can tell. The mandate is that cards with chips are accepted, unrelated to them being contactless or not.
 
Exactly. It looks just like the antennas that HTC has a patent on (and for which Apple has a cross-license).

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Interestingly, Apple has a patent on putting NFC antennas at top and bottom, so either end can be used to "tap" (I hate that word, since you only have to put the phone next to the reader, not physcially bump it).



My daughter just left Florida where she had lived for years. She used her Android phone constantly to pay via NFC.

Gas, fast food, Home Deport, pharmacy.



You live in Chicago and never heard of the Ventra card for the Transit system? Those readers also take NFC from phones.



Yep, many contactless credit cards use NFC. People who are interested in an overview of such cards and NFC are politely directed to my previous post here.

NFC is coming to the US in a very big way, very soon, because of the mandate by credit card companies that every pay terminal accept contactless EMV cards (which means smartphones will work as well).

Because of the coming change, it is the right time for Apple to finally jump on the NFC bandwagon.


I'm not saying I haven't seen the gear to use NFC around, I'm saying I've never seen anyone actually use it with their phone.

It's very supported for tech nobody gives a **** about. :p
 
The new Broadcom chip that they're likely to update with for the 802.11ac has the ability to do Rezence wireless charging...
http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s827695

Easily plausible. Think of the charging benefits - multidevice charging, one's that negate security issues with connecting to cables, businesses then able to off charging without connection issues etc.
 
If the lines appear on the iPhone 6, there are no complaints from me. It's hardly offensive design and if it carries a purpose then all the better. Why are people getting wound up over this what if?
 
The credit cards generally use RFID for what they do. The whole EMV thing is also fairly unrelated to and separate from NFC (or even RFID) as far as I can tell. The mandate is that cards with chips are accepted, unrelated to them being contactless or not.

That's just the base mandate.

Visa has put out various merchant incentives that only take effect if the store accepts all three EMV methods: contact, contactless and mobile phone app. (As I noted in my post about NFC, they're all very related.)

Mastercard has likewise emphasized contactless payments in their EMV roadmap.

This is why most EMV capable POS terminals come already set up to do contactless / mobile payments.

Even Apple's new iPod touch POS sled for taking payments at their Apple Stores, reportedly came with NFC support built-in.
 
That's just the base mandate.

Visa has put out various merchant incentives that only take effect if the store accepts all three EMV methods: contact, contactless and mobile phone app. (As I noted in my post about NFC, they're all very related.)

Mastercard has likewise emphasized contactless payments in their EMV roadmap.

This is why most EMV capable POS terminals come already set up to do contactless / mobile payments.

Even Apple's new iPod touch POS sled for taking payments at their Apple Stores, reportedly came with NFC support built-in.

Jeesh. I remember you from eiC (may even have been everythingiPhone then). How have you and yours been? Well, I hope.
 
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