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What do you think about the way apple handles ios updates for older devices?

  • Apple is just trying to make money - a customer should do research before upgrading

    Votes: 113 13.6%
  • It's a little sneaky, but not a big deal

    Votes: 77 9.3%
  • It is plain wrong to offer an upgrade that will slow down a device

    Votes: 129 15.5%
  • Apple should allow users to select an ios that functions well on their device, even a downgrade

    Votes: 374 45.0%
  • other (or: this poll is horrible)

    Votes: 297 35.7%

  • Total voters
    831
I would love the ability to downgrade or upgrade to any iOS the heart can please. This would eliminate the need of buggy updates and, allow us users to test drive our devices to see how we like them. Is this too hard for apple to give us?

You have to ask Apple why, as I have said in the past. It seems that discussing it as-nauseam on this forum does not prod Apple to provide prior versions.
 
Apple should allow users to have access to prior iOS versions, but that won't happen unless..........perhaps, someone figuring out how to give people prior versions.

The window for Apple signing to the last prior version should be at least a month so that users can downgrade if they wish, if their device is sluggish after a good evaluation period. It's their device and they paid good money for it.

I've been educating casual users on upgrading their older devices so that they are aware that it can cause sluggishness and how to downgrade to the prior version before it's too LATE. Before they are stuck with a semi-brick or worse.

I have a feeling that even casual users are getting wise to this scam.

What is really disturbing is that iOS updates are being pushed onto devices without consent. That really pisses me off and I've been telling as many people as I can that this is occurring and it's just plain wrong.
 
Apple should allow users to have access to prior iOS versions, but that won't happen unless..........perhaps, someone figuring out how to give people prior versions.

The window for Apple signing to the last prior version should be at least a month so that users can downgrade if they wish, if their device is sluggish after a good evaluation period. It's their device and they paid good money for it.

I've been educating casual users on upgrading their older devices so that they are aware that it can cause sluggishness and how to downgrade to the prior version before it's too LATE. Before they are stuck with a semi-brick or worse.

I have a feeling that even casual users are getting wise to this scam.

What is really disturbing is that iOS updates are being pushed onto devices without consent. That really pisses me off and I've been telling as many people as I can that this is occurring and it's just plain wrong.

I'll bet you agreed that Apple could push updates, somewhere along the line.
 
If Apple did allow it, I'd still be using my iPhone 4. Lots of lost revenue for Apple when others do too.

It wasn't until I updated to iOS 7.1 and my iPhone became sluggish. I wished that I could downgrade, but the signing window was gone. If someone could figure out a way to downgrade even if the signing window was gone, well, that would change things.

The thing is, it took well over a month before the issue got worse and I really noticed that at times (more often than not), it took forever to load Safari and other apps. It was a slow burn. I spent a lot of time troubleshooting and did a couple of restores, but nothing worked. It was maddening so I ended up getting an iPhone 5S.

With this iPhone, I doubt if I'll go to iOS 9. I now know how to downgrade and told my family and friends to watch each update for sluggishness and bugs so that we can downgrade before it's too late.
 
If Apple did allow it, I'd still be using my iPhone 4. Lots of lost revenue for Apple when others do too.

It wasn't until I updated to iOS 7.1 and my iPhone became sluggish. I wished that I could downgrade, but the signing window was gone. If someone could figure out a way to downgrade even if the signing window was gone, well, that would change things.

The thing is, it took well over a month before the issue got worse and I really noticed that at times (more often than not), it took forever to load Safari and other apps. It was a slow burn. I spent a lot of time troubleshooting and did a couple of restores, but nothing worked. It was maddening so I ended up getting an iPhone 5S.

With this iPhone, I doubt if I'll go to iOS 9. I now know how to downgrade and told my family and friends to watch each update for sluggishness and bugs so that we can downgrade before it's too late.

One day, technology will allow us to downgrade to any iOS the heart desires. There current type of software updates is impractical, illogical, and arrogant. They don't make changes for the consumers. They make the changes that fit there budget and fit there style.

(IOS 7 redesign ---> Jony Ives did it cause, he had the power):(
 
I recently updated my iPad 3 to iOS 8.3 from 7.1.2. It is now slow and laggy. It used to run smooth and surfing the web with Safari was quick. Now it stutters just scrolling. Just trying to switch apps, it stutters. I think it's absurd that I can't go back to having a functional device just because Apple stopped signing that verison of software. I think we should create a petition.
 
I recently updated my iPad 3 to iOS 8.3 from 7.1.2. It is now slow and laggy. It used to run smooth and surfing the web with Safari was quick. Now it stutters just scrolling. Just trying to switch apps, it stutters. I think it's absurd that I can't go back to having a functional device just because Apple stopped signing that verison of software. I think we should create a petition.


I completely understand your frustration. Ran into this problem with a my brother's iPad 2 and my friends iPad Air who updated from 7.1.2 to 8.3. Both asked me to speed up there devices like they were on 7.1.2.;)

There were a ton of options I had to click to speed them up to at least a reasonable amount of performance:cool:.

Here is what I remember I did to there iPads to speed up iOS 8's preformance (hope this helps)...


-turn off perspective zoom on the wallpapers (old way to disable paralax effect)
-turn off recent contacts from appearing on the app switcher
-Settings-> Privacy -> Location services (turn off the ones you do not need here) -> System Services (turn off the options that you do not want also here)
-Turn off backround app refresh for the apps you do not need refreshed in the backround (Mysteriously on both the iPad 2 and the iPad air, most of them were toggle back on after the update)
-Turn off auto updates [Settings->Itunes and App store-> Updates] this option updates the apps in the background and, ensure that they are up to the latest verstion

-If all else fails, my sugestion would be to reduce motion. I had to do this for my brother's iPad 2 when it first updated from 7.1.2 to 8.0.2 (one of the most buggiest updates in iOS history) Under Settomgs --> General--> Acessabiltiy--> Reduce motion and toggle it on. It is annoying and frustrating to deal with (in my personal opinion) but, it can be used as a last resort to speed up your device [I never use it because, it disables all animations]

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Overall, I can admit iOS 8.3 is better than some of the previous updates, however, I still am avoiding it on my personal iPad Air and my iPhone 4S because, it will slow down both of my devices (especially my iPhone 4S still running 6.1.3:))

In the end, a update that severely slows down a iPad 3 is unacceptable. Even it limiting the performance of a iPad Air (a 1 year old device!) is unjust::(. Above all, not giving us the right to downgrade is absurd:(:mad:. All users deserve the right to downgrade to any iOS version that fits there heart. For me, I would not be afraid of updating my iPad air from 7.1.2 to iOS 8 and back to the (for me) legendary 7.1 [This update saved my old iPad 2]

Overall, hope this information helps out and, hope you solve your iPad 3 plight:);)
 
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I completely understand your frustration. Ran into this problem with a my brother's iPad 2 and my friends iPad Air who updated from 7.1.2 to 8.3. Both asked me to speed up there devices like they were on 7.1.2.;)

There were a ton of options I had to click to speed them up to at least a reasonable amount of performance:cool:.

Here is what I remember I did to there iPads to speed up iOS 8's preformance (hope this helps)...


-turn off perspective zoom on the wallpapers (old way to disable paralax effect)
-turn off recent contacts from appearing on the app switcher
-Settings-> Privacy -> Location services (turn off the ones you do not need here) -> System Services (turn off the options that you do not want also here)
-Turn off backround app refresh for the apps you do not need refreshed in the backround (Mysteriously on both the iPad 2 and the iPad air, most of them were toggle back on after the update)
-Turn off auto updates [Settings->Itunes and App store-> Updates] this option updates the apps in the background and, ensure that they are up to the latest verstion

-If all else fails, my sugestion would be to reduce motion. I had to do this for my brother's iPad 2 when it first updated from 7.1.2 to 8.0.2 (one of the most buggiest updates in iOS history) Under Settomgs --> General--> Acessabiltiy--> Reduce motion and toggle it on. It is annoying and frustrating to deal with (in my personal opinion) but, it can be used as a last resort to speed up your device [I never use it because, it disables all animations]

------------

Overall, I can admit iOS 8.3 is better than some of the previous updates, however, I still am avoiding it on my personal iPad Air and my iPhone 4S because, it will slow down both of my devices (especially my iPhone 4S still running 6.1.3:))

In the end, a update that severely slows down a iPad 3 is unacceptable. Even it limiting the performance of a iPad Air (a 1 year old device!) is unjust::(. Above all, not giving us the right to downgrade is absurd:(:mad:. All users deserve the right to downgrade to any iOS version that fits there heart. For me, I would not be afraid of updating my iPad air from 7.1.2 to iOS 8 and back to the (for me) legendary 7.1 [This update saved my old iPad 2]

Overall, hope this information helps out and, hope you solve your iPad 3 plight:);)

I did a lot of that in iOS 7. I dislike the whole animation thing and disabled it in the beginning. Maybe that's why I never had any performance issues with iOS 7 or 8. Also disabled all animations in windows, fwiw.
 
I recently updated my iPad 3 to iOS 8.3 from 7.1.2. It is now slow and laggy. It used to run smooth and surfing the web with Safari was quick. Now it stutters just scrolling. Just trying to switch apps, it stutters. I think it's absurd that I can't go back to having a functional device just because Apple stopped signing that verison of software. I think we should create a petition.

You are one brave person. I would not update an iPad 3 past iOS 6. In fact my iPad 3 is still running iOS 5.1.1 with no issues whatsoever.
 
I did a lot of that in iOS 7. I dislike the whole animation thing and disabled it in the beginning. Maybe that's why I never had any performance issues with iOS 7 or 8. Also disabled all animations in windows, fwiw.

Same I disliked the paralax. It to me just ate up battery life. I turned if off when I could. After either 7.0.2 or 7.0.3, I was mind boggled because reduce motion disabled the parallax and the animations (I love the animations and hate parallax) Nerveless, 7.1 fixed the issue with perspective zoom!

Yes, the parallax was the main reason why 7.x was so slow. by disabling it as much I could, I had better battery performance (just like you) and better overall performance (cause the Ram was not being eaten up by the parallax):)

Sry for rambling about this stuff! :eek:
 
How does it go loading a site like nin.com in desktop mode?

I can't run nin.com on my Air or iPad 2 so what's your point? I know, Safari sux on iOS. Hopefully one day Apple will spend some of their billions and retool Safari.
 
Nin.com loads on my 5s. I was wondering how iOS 5 would load it up.

It runs great on iOS 5.1.1 :)

I haven't been to nin.com in forever as any of my iPad's would crash and burn. They must have fixed something on their site because ALL my iPad's now run nin.com with NO problems.
 
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