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Lmao that's so ignorant. So Kendrick Lamar and Common advocate violence? Hip hop is so varied, like most genres. Maybe even more so because "rapping" is a style of vocal delivery, not a type of production or sound. You don't know anything about hip hop but have no problem speaking on it. That just makes you look foolish.

So what is different with Lamar? His songs sound as ****** as all hiphop songs I ever had the unfortune to hear. And I heard lots of **** and bitch etc in the songs I checked out.
 
No surprise if they play the 'CHART with Brooke Reese' a couple of times every day... God I hate it when they play the most popular songs just for the sake of playing them.
 
By the way, GrumpyMom -- You know that an Electra Woman and Dyna Girl movie is in the making for the big screen, right? :) It was a really fun series back in my childhood!
Yeah I found out about it while looking for the pictures to make my avatar photo. I was a huge fan of the show when I was a kid. Those were the days...Saturday mornings with Electra Woman and Dyna Girl. Land of the Lost was another favorite of mine on Saturdays.
 
French rap always was better and more interesting to me. Sometimes it has some nice melody, and it's not being just a dumb aggression without any hint of music.
Interestingly, that's exactly what they say about American Rap in France.
Most *popular* French Rap music are like "i ****ed that b*tch" and "we should kill cops on sight", unfortunately.
 
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What! In Germany you haven't heard of Florence and the Machine?

I looked them up – seems like they are quite popular here, too. And when I checked out some tracks, I liked what I heard, too. Still, I never heard of them before, alsthough in this case that's not a local taste difference but just me being out-of-touch with the current musical scene.
 
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I looked them up – seems like they are quite popular here, too. And when I checked out some tracks, I liked what I heard, too. Still, I never heard of them before, alsthough in this case that's not a local taste difference but just me being out-of-touch with the current musical scene.
I have fallen in love with her music. I forget how I first heard her - it was random. I've been following her releases since. She has an MTV Unplugged live session (available on Apple Music) and man, she is amazing 'live'. Worth watching (it's video/audio - but will play on your device even if you're only listening to the audio) ! Enjoy! I love discovering artists who are new to me - sometimes after they've been around for a while. But that just gives me a history of their music to explore. :)

Interestingly, that's exactly what they say about American Rap in France.
Most *popular* French Rap music are like "i ****ed that b*tch" and "we should kill cops on sight", unfortunately.
That is hilarious. Well, there is non-violent American Rap - but good luck ferreting it out from the rest.
 
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Yeah I found out about it while looking for the pictures to make my avatar photo. I was a huge fan of the show when I was a kid. Those were the days...Saturday mornings with Electra Woman and Dyna Girl. Land of the Lost was another favorite of mine on Saturdays.
Yes - I loved the Land of the Lost. Hilarious! Oh, no, Sleestaks!

Obviously Beats1 is targeting one very specific demographic in the United States, in an attempt to pull them away from Android phones. It's cynical at best.
Cynical or just good business. They want the largest market possible -- as quickly as possible once this goes paid (after the 3-month trial). I agree, that it is certainly not what I envisioned at all in terms of variety and song frequency. Good to know though what the lineup is. I do agree with others here that they should have additional Beats 2, 3, 4, etc with other predominant musical genres.
 
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I can't stand that drake figure. Never heard of the guy before and now it's a constant monotonous "nig-ga nig-ga nig-ga" crap. Yeah, you're a nig-ga, we can't say it but you can. Good for you [mute] switch station [unmute].

ps: you know what's bliss? Being uncensored. I love saying f*k, sh*t and * or * irl, and see the occasional nipple on daytime tv. Seems less hypocritical.

edit: that said; beyond that i did find some good new music on apple music and i like the suggested music a lot, but beats1 disappointed me so far.
 
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Let's sum up:
  • 20% is just too damn much of that damn ****** music. (That would be Hip-Hop/Rap/Reggae/Jazz plus some even counting wiggers)
  • Too little unpopular music for a popular music station
  • French Pop, are you kidding me, that can't be popular
  • I wanted something to discover new music, but they only play stuff I never heard of
Hand, hug my face. Please.
 
Interestingly, that's exactly what they say about American Rap in France.
Most *popular* French Rap music are like "i ****ed that b*tch" and "we should kill cops on sight", unfortunately.
Maybe it has worsened. I don't know, I stopped listening a very long time ago. Even today, I don't think that applies to famous French female rappers.
 
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I'm curious to see how this all changes when people have to start paying... because these numbers as of right now are skewed because it's all free.... once that parts over the demographics and analytical data will change for sure.

Obligatory correction: no one is paying for Beats1, ever. Period. It is free and always (so far as prognostication can tell us) will be.

Meaningful comment: this is the whole problem with the Apple Music rollout. Apple completely borked the message. The Beats1 service and Apple Music are completely conflated in the public's mind, which is necessarily unfortunate because one is a narrow single-listener-model compromise (which any broadcast station needs to be; you can broadcast the best music for one specific user or start compromising the aptness of the selection to reach more listeners), and the other is a smorgasbord feast of (as close to as licensing will allow, and getting closer over time) everything ever recorded. One is a free "gift" to all users with nothing more than implicit Apple brand advertisements, and the other is a pay service meant to maintain a sustainable cash flow month to month and year to year.

Ugh. I kind of like what Apple did with Beats1. It is often not "my kind of music", but sometimes it is. I flip it on and listen, and if its crappy rap playing (sorry, to my buddy-duddy ears pretty much all rap is crappy rap; opinions and all) turn it back off and play something from my library. If it isn't rap, I give it a listen and see if I like it; if I do, there's often enough another song and another song and another after that that I like as well, and that gives me a good source of music discovery. Sometimes I even listen to the crappy rap, because the DJ there will give some interesting back story, along with it (there is one that goes into the sources of the samples and plays the original influencers, which is often interesting).

Contrast this to the state of US radio, where I could flip on any channel at any time of the day and maybe discover some song in the middle of playing, but there was about a 50-75% chance that at the end of that song what would play is not another song I might like (and could hear from the beginning) but instead a loud and obnoxious commercial for something I don't want. And, if I tried to switch stations during that commercial, 90% of the time the other three stations playing music akin to my tastes would also be playing commercials. Which makes sense, because the commercials pay for the service, but makes the service useless as a discovery medium.

Frankly, I'd pay for Beats1. Not $10/month, but more like $10/year, which I think should be reasonable. Instead, Apple gives that to us free for nothing but brand goodwill. Hopefully they never change and require annoying commercials between songs, because then it becomes useless to me; but unless and until that happens, I'm very glad it is there.

Now, Apple Music, I'm on the fence about. I'm deliberately not "free trialling" the service right now; I'll give it a try a little later in the year when I have more listening time and more cellphone data cap room and more other-family-members'-data-usage-monitoring time. The switch from everything-local to everything-streaming (yes, I understand that's not entirely true, but I have teenagers who will not see the difference and will quickly overrun our family plan data caps) isn't really a good shift in my opinion. Yes, network will become more ubiquitous over time, but we're paying a good $80/month just to keep the data we have running, and that isn't getting appreciably cheaper any time fast, and when Pandora hit this household our data use doubled amongst the users of it. Another $80/month in streaming costs is not something I want to commit to, just to keep the musical "lights" on. That is a lot of music we can buy and ensure that the kids only download from home/wifi.

That said, there's a heavy user-education aspect to me not wanting to try AM yet. It just is going to take time and attention to the data usage for a few months to get the message through to everyone and make it work well.

Anyway, back to the original point: Apple really messed up the messaging here. Beats1 is a good service for me at least, even though I too don't recognize more than a couple names on that list and certainly don't enjoy rap.
 
Drake or Meek? F* 'em both.

There isn't a single artist on that list that I would volunteer my time or money to. I don't listen to mainstream radio any more because it's the same crap.

I'm not just an old foggie who is out of touch. Listening to this shallow, focus-group tested music that's created to appease the majority of listeners is painful. And it's sad that so many sheep enjoy these popular artists.

Okay, you have your right to your own opinion, but you just described the exact opposite of Apple Music to me.

First, mainstream radio sucks because it is 30% commercial time (yes, really; take a stopwatch to your favorite station for an hour and feel free to verify). Without listening through commercials, you can't get complete songs, which makes it absolutely suck as a discovery medium.

Focus-group tested music? The DJs on Beats1 have free reign, so far as I can tell and anyone is saying. They are the "focus group", and some of them have very interesting tastes. Yes, that is going to be influenced by "what is popular" (if you think for a moment that your taste in music is completely divorced from what you heard around you growing up etc, you are deluded). But, overall, the output there is far from "focus group tested". A focus group wouldn't approve of half the stuff I hear on Beats1.

In any case, you don't like what you hear; fine. Just don't apply unsupported reasons to why you don't like it. You don't like it because you don't like it. That is enough. The only thing I'd say is that you should give it a few tries at different times of the day / week to see if there are any of the shows there that you do like before dismissing it altogether. Those of us who do like it don't like it because it is focus-group tested, but because ... we like the music it plays enough for it to be a good discovery service. Just like you have your tastes, others have theirs, believe it or not!
 
You don't have to sign up for Beats1 radio; it's free. If you sign up to Apple Music you'll have all the classical music you can handle.
As far as I know, Beats 1 is not free since you have to sign up to AM to listen to it. I mean, it's free for three months then you have to pay to keep both AM and access to Beats 1. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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My bad, it seems that Beats1 is actually free. The other non-Beat1 stations are not
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Probably not as a whole, but it's clearly the genre of choice for younger people and obviously Apple would prefer to please the 18-35 crowd over all else.

Also your link is only album sales, not revenue generated from digital sales, single sales, radio spins, music played in clubs, etc. Most young people don't buy entire albums these days so that link is largely irrelevant to what's actually popular.

Another thing is that even a lot of what's considered 'pop' and 'R&B' these days is infused with hip-hop style production or other influences. For example, there's a popular Taylor Swift song that Apple Music loves to play which features rapper Kendrick Lamar, but it is classified as a 'Pop' song. I can't recall the name of it.

Digital sales were left as an exercise for a reader. They're available on the same website from the first link. Quick search shows that digital rock and pop still sells more than rap/hip-hop. Could you provide a link to stats which back up your claim that rap is "clearly the genre of choice for younger people"?..
 
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Interestingly, that's exactly what they say about American Rap in France.
Most *popular* French Rap music are like "i ****ed that b*tch" and "we should kill cops on sight", unfortunately.
Maybe so, I don't really follow it... I can imagine it's like you say especially in recent years. Sad if true. But of what I did hear sometimes I liked more French, at least for the music.
 
Wow... lots vaguely racist shut-ins saying rap isn't music. I mean, I don't like reggae and pop country much, but I'd never ban a genre from existence. Haven't any of you heard Hans Zimmer's great quote, "There are only two types of music: good and bad?"

I'm not a Drake fan, but damn, hip-hop is just like any other genre--80% is terrible. The other 20% is up to personal taste. And it's up to us to get over any silly bias.

Kendrick Lamar made a legitimately compelling album that had something to say about being black in America. What the hell? Should music not be varied?

Oh there's the rayciss word again. Maybe we just have better taste / culture than you?
 
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Are you sure you understand mine?
I literally said I thought it was weird. So I'm fairly certain I do not, in fact, understand your comment.

Which should have been the easy part. Care to explain your comment?
 
Okay, you have your right to your own opinion, but you just described the exact opposite of Apple Music to me.
Opinions can differ without either being wrong.
First, mainstream radio sucks because it is 30% commercial time...
your opinion; which I share, but the music in between doesn't please me either; most of the time.
Focus-group tested music? The DJs on Beats1 have free reign, so far as I can tell and anyone is saying.
I have not given beats a try. I don't recall saying I wouldn't try it. Just that I doubt I'd spend much time listening. The reference to focus-tested music was geared towards radio. Though, this list of artists reflect what's popular on the radio and is representative of the type of music that's likely going to be played on Beats.[/quote]

In any case, you don't like what you hear; fine. Just don't apply unsupported reasons to why you don't like it. You don't like it because you don't like it. That is enough.
My reasoning is supported by the artists listed in the article, which is the context of which to apply my comments. This list is not representative of my tastes.
 
I literally said I thought it was weird. So I'm fairly certain I do not, in fact, understand your comment.

Which should have been the easy part. Care to explain your comment?

Never complain, never explain - that's my motto.
 
Nope.

There's good and bad music. Most popular music today is bad, because it appeals to man's basic instinct which is violence. It's fitting that the music industry has gone to the dogs, as it reflects the kind of people we are. Rap is the ultimate consummation of violence. It is anti-music.

We get what we deserve.

Wow, we are so lucky that you are here to tell us what is good and bad music. A similar thing was said about rock music decades ago.
 
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