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iPhone 15 Pro There are almost no upgrades left for iphones

Bananasaurus said:
I'm very eager to see how the RAW speed is in the 15 Pro Max. I don't recall them saying anything about it. When the iPhone can shoot 10-20 RAW photos a second like a mirrorless, that will be significant. Right now RAW mode is pretty useless for anything removing even remotely slightly.
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My work involves static subjects, so RAW excels and I adjusted quickly to the delay of large image capture file sizes. What I really want to see (but I am not holding my breath) is some real effort to improve camera ergonomics which currently fully suck.

Macs' UI were Apple's real jump start but they have done less than nothing for the iPhone cameras' UI. Truth is that Apple needs to go to Nikon for camera ergonomics assistance like they bought the Mac UI from Xerox PARC, but culturally neither firm would go for it. [Oh how I wish Apple could get UI from Nikon and Nikon could get computation from Apple...]
 
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Allen_Wentz said:
My work involves static subjects, so RAW excels and I adjusted quickly to the delay of large image capture file sizes. What I really want to see (but I am not holding my breath) is some real effort to improve camera ergonomics which currently fully suck. Macs' UI were Apple's real jump start but they have done less than nothing for the iPhone cameras' UI.
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This is why I always use third-party apps. The built-in camera app leaves much to be desired.
 
george88 said:
- Iphone chips are at 3nm, they can barely get any smaller, so no more big cpu/gpu upgrades forever
- Camera upgrades are only limited to increasing optical zoom, in the next 5 years all Apple is gonna do is slowly increase the zoom to 10x, quality has barely changed in the last 5 years
- No other "big features" left besides TouchID under display
- No big cosmetic changes left for the phone, since the Iphone X it's basically looked the same every year

Basically there's nothing left to look forward to. Iphones have reached their peak.
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always great to have people on these forums that predict the future
 
george88 said:
- Iphone chips are at 3nm, they can barely get any smaller, so no more big cpu/gpu upgrades forever
- Camera upgrades are only limited to increasing optical zoom, in the next 5 years all Apple is gonna do is slowly increase the zoom to 10x, quality has barely changed in the last 5 years
- No other "big features" left besides TouchID under display
- No big cosmetic changes left for the phone, since the Iphone X it's basically looked the same every year

Basically there's nothing left to look forward to. Iphones have reached their peak.
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Vision Pro comes out soon... hang on. lol.
 
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george88 said:
- Iphone chips are at 3nm, they can barely get any smaller, so no more big cpu/gpu upgrades forever
- Camera upgrades are only limited to increasing optical zoom, in the next 5 years all Apple is gonna do is slowly increase the zoom to 10x, quality has barely changed in the last 5 years
- No other "big features" left besides TouchID under display
- No big cosmetic changes left for the phone, since the Iphone X it's basically looked the same every year

Basically there's nothing left to look forward to. Iphones have reached their peak.
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I'm no expert on camera technology, but I think there's still plenty of room for improvement. Especially for low light. Even my iPhone 14 Pro camera is lacking for basic stuff like pictures of indoor kids basketball.
 
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Bananasaurus said:
I always love going back and reading predictions from people in the past. Some of my favorites:

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."

"Someday, computers may weigh no more than 2,000 pounds."
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Yep. Who can find the MR thread about the iPhone introduction?
 
george88 said:
- Iphone chips are at 3nm, they can barely get any smaller, so no more big cpu/gpu upgrades forever
- Camera upgrades are only limited to increasing optical zoom, in the next 5 years all Apple is gonna do is slowly increase the zoom to 10x, quality has barely changed in the last 5 years
- No other "big features" left besides TouchID under display
- No big cosmetic changes left for the phone, since the Iphone X it's basically looked the same every year

Basically there's nothing left to look forward to. Iphones have reached their peak.
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really.... REALLY???

So, 30 years ago if you showed someone an iPhone they would be VERY impressed with what they saw. The internet didnt really exist either back then.

You are really saying that in 30 years time from now the iPhone will look the same as it does today? It will be a dinosaur by then.

What changes and upgrades will there be? Well who knows - but there will be.

Will it still resemble a flat piece of glass? Maybe - probably - why who knows.

From your very myopic viewpoint the iPhone can go no further because you cannot imagine what might come next in display technology and camera technology and battery technology and software capabilities........ that doesnt mean to say the phone of 10 years time will not be significantly different to that which we know today.
 
The chips alone have near infinite upgrade potential left. Nodes can get smaller than 1nm 😀

Battery tech will take a huge jump in the coming years.

Screens can always get better.

Camera may eventually get adjustable optical zoom.

Yes, releases will mostly be iterative, but, you go a year or two without upgrading and there will be big differences.
 
I am waiting for a Dex/MacOS mode so the iPhone finally becomes the all-in-one device I want. I would like to connect a keyboard, mouse and monitor and work at my desk in Logic Pro, Pages etc. Also we need to improve the tech so we get flush phones again. The ever growing camera bump is horrible, design and haptics wise.
 
That is completely untrue.

Upgrades that the $800 iPhone 15 should have now are:
- high refresh screen
- fast charging
- reverse wireless charging

Things that can always be improved in the future:
- cameras. Better sensors, lens, software
- battery life
- chip performance
- RAM
- Screen tech
- Screen brightness
- Adding a headphone jack
- higher port speeds

In terms of software:
- true sideloading, like Android
- a universal back gesture

There's lots, tech is always evolving.
 
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BeatCrazy said:
I'm no expert on camera technology, but I think there's still plenty of room for improvement. Especially for low light. Even my iPhone 14 Pro camera is lacking for basic stuff like pictures of indoor kids basketball.
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Camera sensors will always improve -- that's for sure!
 
All blind tests on youtube show that people are not capable of distinguishing between an iphone 13 pro vs 14 pro. In some cases people can barely distinguish between 11 pro and 14 pro. If you look at blind tests for the iphone 4s vs iphone 5, almost everyone can tell you which one is better. That's why it's safe to say that most people simply can't notice camera upgrades anymore. same with the chip, you can make it 10% faster but if you do a speed comparison no one will notice the difference unless you buy a 5 year newer iphone that is at least 2x as fast as the older one
 
Yea maybe 10 years left until peak-iPhone.

Then we'll have 15 years until peak Apple VR headset.

Then we'll have 15 years until peak [insert next product] etc
 
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h.gilbert said:
That is completely untrue.

Upgrades that the $800 iPhone 15 should have now are:
- high refresh screen
- fast charging
- reverse wireless charging

Things that can always be improved in the future:
- cameras. Better sensors, lens, software
- battery life
- chip performance
- RAM
- Screen tech
- Screen brightness
- Adding a headphone jack
- higher port speeds

In terms of software:
- true sideloading, like Android
- a universal back gesture

There's lots, tech is always evolving.
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chip and ram is fine.. screen brightness on the iphone 15 is already enough to blind you, why would u want more? a headphone jack??? port speeds on usb-c are fast enough, you're not transfering 10tb off a phone.. most people have 256gb at most and with usb c speeds that is already transfered in minutes
 
Touch under screen or on power would be nice.
And used to hear about hologram commumications but not for a few years
And get a cooling system that will resist throttling the screen in a millisecond in the sun. 2k+ outdoor nits are useless with that happening
 
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george88 said:
chip and ram is fine.. screen brightness on the iphone 15 is already enough to blind you, why would u want more? a headphone jack??? port speeds on usb-c are fast enough, you're not transfering 10tb off a phone.. most people have 256gb at most and with usb c speeds that is already transfered in minutes
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Extra screen brightness - just for the moments when the summer sun is blazing directly on the phone. Headphone jack I always found more secure than USB-C. I don't personally need USB 3.0 speeds, but you said there aren't any upgrades left and I'm telling you there are. Even if you don't use it, USB 2.0 to 3.0 is still an upgrade. Can't argue against that.
 
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A real area that needs improvement, has been NOT adequately addressed for years, is off the shelf technology and possibly not very costly.

Better performance as a phone!!!

Hold a phone up to my ear and use it for a phone hasn’t gotten any better (if not worse) and there are many fixes that could be incorporated. For example, Using a phone in a crowded noisy airport terminal is agonizing unless you have AirPods or headphones.

Noise cancellation, optimization for usage against your head (think of training the phone with the size & shape of your face based on how you hold it do phone call akin to facial recognition training), directional speaker and microphones, ergonomic while being used as phone, etc

Not sexy but lots of room for improvement.
 
sack_peak said:
What I'd want is the iPhone USB-C can plug to a a USB-C display that has USB-C, USB-A, Ethernet, 3mm headphone jack.

When it does that it boots to macOS on iPhone. The A17 Pro is faster than any Mac with a Core i7 or even a Core i9.
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I just want an iPhone with a USB 4 controller rather than being limited to USB 3.
 
Charles H. Duell, the Commissioner of the U.S. patent office, is widely quoted as having stated in 1889 that the patent office would soon shrink in size, and eventually close because… “Everything that can be invented has been invented.”
 
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