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iPhone 15 Pro There are almost no upgrades left for iphones

lamerica80 said:
It's always helpful to provide examples with statements like these :)

Also I think when people say "no upgrades left" they are referring to current or reasonably realistic near-future technology. Saying "the battery can be upgraded to last a year" or "we can get holographic displays" is kinda pointless. Truth is, it's been a while since we saw something with a wow-factor like face-ID. Everyone knows the cameras will get slightly better each year and the screen a few % brighter.

What upgrades do you envision for iPhone 18, for example?
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:rolleyes: Read the bloody thread. There are numerous “recommendations” and “suggestions” on ways to improve the hardware and software. Do a quick Google or Reddit search.

18? No idea. Would love to see a foldable (like the Honor) or new battery tech or….
 
sack_peak said:
- 8yrs: Watch, iPhones & iPad
- 10yrs: Mac & Apple TV
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Replace these at this speed regardless because it's better for the environment, your wallet, and doesn't promote brainless spending "just because."

You certainly don't *need* a new phone. The iPhone 11 and the iPhone 15 aren't that different in terms of functionality or performance for 90% of people's daily lives.
 
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izzy0242mr said:
Replace these at this speed regardless because it's better for the environment, your wallet, and doesn't promote brainless spending "just because."

You certainly don't *need* a new phone. The iPhone 11 and the iPhone 15 aren't that different in terms of functionality or performance for 90% of people's daily lives.
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If the use case remains unchanged then follow that pace of replacement.

If your revenue depends on a faster/better device then do so.

I can see the iPhone being replaced that infrequently once 2027 EU battery replacement law takes into effect.
 
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sack_peak said:
If the use case remains unchanged then follow that pace of replacement.

If your revenue depends on a faster/better device then do so.

I can see the iPhone being replaced that infrequently once 2027 EU battery replacement law takes into effect.
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Of course, if your job requires you to have a newer device/helps you make more money, obviously upgrade. But most people aren't upgrading because their job needs it. Those are the people who need to see this message.
 
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george88 said:
- Iphone chips are at 3nm, they can barely get any smaller, so no more big cpu/gpu upgrades forever
- Camera upgrades are only limited to increasing optical zoom, in the next 5 years all Apple is gonna do is slowly increase the zoom to 10x, quality has barely changed in the last 5 years
- No other "big features" left besides TouchID under display
- No big cosmetic changes left for the phone, since the Iphone X it's basically looked the same every year

Basically there's nothing left to look forward to. Iphones have reached their peak.
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You sound like a 19th-century scientist who thinks everything that can be done has been done.
 
13 ProMax / iPad Pro 11 g4
Print - HP Smart

As of this latest iteration of iOS 17, neither my iPhone nor iPad can see my HP printer,
All the rest of my devices including MBP and Android can see this on the network.

Hoping it is just an app update issue.
 
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george88 said:
- Iphone chips are at 3nm, they can barely get any smaller, so no more big cpu/gpu upgrades forever
- Camera upgrades are only limited to increasing optical zoom, in the next 5 years all Apple is gonna do is slowly increase the zoom to 10x, quality has barely changed in the last 5 years
- No other "big features" left besides TouchID under display
- No big cosmetic changes left for the phone, since the Iphone X it's basically looked the same every year

Basically there's nothing left to look forward to. Iphones have reached their peak.
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MicroLED will be sweet
 
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dk001 said:
It will if and when the price drops low enough to make it a cost benefit.
Love to see a different battery technology. Or how about true fast charging in the meantime.
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I’ve heard about so many amazing battery techs over the years. None of which have come to fruition. I assume they all explode or something lol
 
Product development. at the end of the day, there is a team ( or teams) that thinks about the next product iteration.
 
george88 said:
- Iphone chips are at 3nm, they can barely get any smaller, so no more big cpu/gpu upgrades forever
- Camera upgrades are only limited to increasing optical zoom, in the next 5 years all Apple is gonna do is slowly increase the zoom to 10x, quality has barely changed in the last 5 years
- No other "big features" left besides TouchID under display
- No big cosmetic changes left for the phone, since the Iphone X it's basically looked the same every year

Basically there's nothing left to look forward to. Iphones have reached their peak.
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This is such an unimaginative take. There's are plenty of things they can do.
- For a start, they can go waaaay smaller than 3nm. It's gonna take time, but there's a long roadmap to sub 1nm processes floating around somewhere (if it hasn't already been shared).
- There's lots of room to move with the camera too. Optical zoom, experimenting with more physical features like ND filters, electrochromic glass or similar for underscreen cameras.
- Underscreen touchID.
- Lots of room for improvement with battery tech (solid state batteries, faster charging, reverse charging, etc).
- Custom chips for specific purposes. They have the neural engine, ultrawideband, and all sorts of coprocessors, they can basically keep working on more and more of those as they have the need.
- Display tech can always get brighter, more power efficient, dimmer, higher refresh rates, better colour reproduction.
- Cosmetic changes. You say there's nothing left there because you're stuck in today's view of what a phone is. As things change, the role of the phone might change, meaning a change in form factor that we can't predict right now.
- Repairability. People like to make fun of this but an iPhone with effort put into being easily repairable by the end-user (without needing to rent 1000kg of tools from Apple) would be huge.
 
To this day, I've yet to own an iPhone with a damn integral bottle opener. My toaster, fridge, grill, car keys, truck hitch, and several pieces of furniture all do, but not yet on my iPhone. I could remove a bottle cap with my old Motorola flip-phone, although the plastic wore out quite quickly and I had to weld on a couple steel plates to continue to use that feature (I miss that phone).
Hey Apple: I have a neat design already patented, 2 engineering degrees, and have found Retirement to be kinda boring. PM me; I'll make you rich! (it needs to be WFH)
 
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boss.king said:
This is such an unimaginative take. There's are plenty of things they can do.
- For a start, they can go waaaay smaller than 3nm. It's gonna take time, but there's a long roadmap to sub 1nm processes floating around somewhere (if it hasn't already been shared).
- There's lots of room to move with the camera too. Optical zoom, experimenting with more physical features like ND filters, electrochromic glass or similar for underscreen cameras.
- Underscreen touchID.
- Lots of room for improvement with battery tech (solid state batteries, faster charging, reverse charging, etc).
- Custom chips for specific purposes. They have the neural engine, ultrawideband, and all sorts of coprocessors, they can basically keep working on more and more of those as they have the need.
- Display tech can always get brighter, more power efficient, dimmer, higher refresh rates, better colour reproduction.
- Cosmetic changes. You say there's nothing left there because you're stuck in today's view of what a phone is. As things change, the role of the phone might change, meaning a change in form factor that we can't predict right now.
- Repairability. People like to make fun of this but an iPhone with effort put into being easily repairable by the end-user (without needing to rent 1000kg of tools from Apple) would be huge.
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Almost everything you said is minor or irrelevant.

The screens are basically perfect now, there's no NEED to improve anything.. they can make it a bit better every year but it's nothing that people will look forward to or notice. The chips aren't progressing anymore, it's tiny differences every year and will only get smaller. I already mentioned touchID and agree it's one of the big things left. Battery tech has been improving extremely slowly since iphone was released. Iphones will only be more repairable if they're legally forced to, like with USB-c
 
george88 said:
Almost everything you said is minor or irrelevant.

The screens are basically perfect now, there's no NEED to improve anything.. they can make it a bit better every year but it's nothing that people will look forward to or notice. The chips aren't progressing anymore, it's tiny differences every year and will only get smaller. I already mentioned touchID and agree it's one of the big things left. Battery tech has been improving extremely slowly since iphone was released. Iphones will only be more repairable if they're legally forced to, like with USB-c
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Lol. I mean, if you just say everything is irrelevant then of course there’s not going to be anything major. However, here in the real world, those are still significant upgrades.
 
sack_peak said:
Do you have a crystal ball? If you do kindly use it for the stock market or cryptocurrencies instead.

2nd there is a roadmap towards sub-1nm.

full


”Anyone who claims the limit is 'physics'…. They're just echo chambering whatever forums and journalists says.”
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Or the limit is actually physics. Lithography at that scale and beyond results in poorer and poorer yields bc of quantum tunneling (a real thing). TSMC has struggled with this new process as has been reported. Sure new architecture will extend performance gains in the short term before they start loading up on core count and clock speed which will have diminishing returns and increase the thermal envelope for a passively cooled product.
 
Battery can be improved greatly lol, there's room. Be it a bigger battery, different materials , more efficienct display , haptics engine , chip , etc


Thermals

Cameras (sensors, lenses)

Software since apple locks new features and **** and only give it to the latest iteration XD

Brightness and readubiliy under sunlight (vision boost with diff contrast like Samsung does would be neat)
 
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That’s why they are working on next big thing - spatial computing

Big apple vision pro ————-> glasses that overlay your phone to your enviornment in the next 20-30 years
 
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