"one manufacturer"? Which one? There are plenty of ARM chipmakers out there. You can't seriously be talking about Apple here.Microsoft has colluded with Qualcomm to deliberately exclude one manufacturer from their business model
"one manufacturer"? Which one? There are plenty of ARM chipmakers out there. You can't seriously be talking about Apple here.Microsoft has colluded with Qualcomm to deliberately exclude one manufacturer from their business model
Not that amazing. Windows 11 runs on AMD and Intel, in addition to Qualcomm. It’s not limited to “only on Qualcomm.”Amazing the newest version of macOS runs on Apple Silicon AND Intel right now and Windows 11 only on Qualcomm chips. How the opened / closed platforms have changed!
pro - yes
home wont install without MS account
and even free apps on MS store on w11 pro require MS account (workes account-less in w10)
I don't use a Mac but know people who use Macs but also use Boot Camp or whatever software to run Windows based software.Then why are you running a Mac? I use mine for business and run a business with opensource and development. Use what it needed. If you have only Windows-based work software you need to run it on that platform, on company hardware, or a system sanctioned by them. I don't understand the personal laptop running a non-company OS to run their software.
Why? Seriously why? VMs work. Gaming? Not native anyway.
As you said..I don't get why people are so upset about this.
Qualcomm did make a “custom” version of its chip for the Surface Pro X. Perhaps it had something to do with the exclusivity. Also, Qualcomm probably wanted some assurance that Microsoft wouldn’t immediately undercut its own efforts to market ARM chips for Windows..... why would Microsoft hitch their wagon to a company that hasn't delivered great performance. I wonder how old this agreement is, I wonder if it predates Windows RT
If Nvidia buys ARM it could get worse for Windows ARM on a Mac.
APPLE should have bought ARM.
Still think they should have bought Adobe. fine tuned the software and made some programs Mac only.
.... why would Microsoft hitch their wagon to a company that hasn't delivered great performance. I wonder how old this agreement is, I wonder if it predates Windows RT
VMs can easily game if they have direct access to a video card. Generally that would be a PCIe connected GPU or a thunderbolt connected eGPU in Mac parlance.vms are simply not the same
Hahah! Good luck! Windows will be releasing in Mac in the future soon.
Not so much of a secret anymore.
There was a time Microsoft saved Apple. There will be a time Apple will be saving Microsoft
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When Microsoft saved Apple: Steve Jobs and Bill Gates show eliminating competition isn't the only way to win
“Apple wasn’t going to beat Microsoft. Apple didn’t have to beat Microsoft,” Jobs said about the partnership.www.cnbc.com
For productivity apps it works surprisingly well. I even tried an old x86 Intel copy of Adobe Acrobat 10 that came with a scanner that I bought years ago - and it runs pretty good given that it is running via emulation in a VM. These M1's are pretty slick.I've considered getting Parallels. But since only ARM-optimized apps run natively in the ARM version of Windows, that means that any other x86 app (such as the majority of games) would be running in a Windows emulation mode while in Parallels' emulation mode. I suspect that wouldn't make for too fantastic of an experience.
little more involved than thatYou hear them complaining and how they switched to Macs.
Yet those same people take time to learn how to use a Mac and still use their Windows based software. Hypocrites!
I have 2 machines set up without Microsoft accounts. They just don't make it blatantly obvious how to.nope
might be a reason, but its not the reason
MS has become data collection company lately, and worst than google on it. why do you think win11 doesnt work without a MS account? they don't want you to use some apps as secondary OS on a mac. now money made that way. they want you to use this as your primary OS, collect data, sell ads and so on.
Apple silicon didn't even existed when Windows ARM was released and the deal was made. No one colluded against appleFalse equivalence. Apple is primarily a hardware manufacturer that develops software for their devices, whereas Microsoft has colluded with Qualcomm to deliberately exclude one manufacturer from their business model
It works fine for older titles, but nothing that stresses the graphics at all. Think more Neverwinter Nights than Dragon Age Inquisition.For productivity apps it works surprisingly well. I even tried an old x86 Intel copy of Adobe Acrobat 10 that came with a scanner that I bought years ago - and it runs pretty good given that it is running via emulation in a VM. These M1's are pretty slick.
I doubt gaming would work all that well. MaxTech has a few videos about this and some games do get decent FPS. I just don't know why people would buy these machines for gaming when Xbox, PS and Switch can be bought for not much with a vastly superior experience.
?There was a time Microsoft saved Apple. There will be a time Apple will be saving Microsoft![]()
That is a ridiculous comparison given the market power of Apple in cell phones at the time.Kinda like how the iPhone in the US was exclusive to AT&T for four years? Mmmm yeah.
Says who?why do you think win11 doesnt work without a MS account?