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I have no desire to have a >6" phone (the Plus is 6.22" long). It's too big. I like the tiny screen of my 4s. I hate the battery life and 3g speed but otherwise it's fine. I'm stuck going with the 4.7". I really wish it had the OIS, but none of my other phones have had it, so it's not a deal breaker.

So if you buy a 4.7" model how would you feel if App developers concentrate more on the 5.5" model with apps designed for the bigger screen? Even Apple made their 1st party apps look better on the 5.5" which I find odd; they made the 4.7" look worst.
 

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And you have to remember the forums aren't reflective of all consumers. It's a tech forum of people who like Apple products, so there is a bigger group of 'bigger faster more' than you're going to see.

But I get what the OP is saying. Nobody likes to regret their purchase, especially when a product costs hundreds of dollars. That's why I think if someone has any doubts, they should really wait until they play with both devices and see what work.

I always wanted a 4.7. Then started thinking maybe a 5.5 would be worth it. I found myself listening to the 'Hands-on' reviews and filtering out words like 'deceptively big' and 'massive' while trying to convince myself that 'it wasn't as big as I thought it would look.
 
How could someone come to this decision when it's not out yet. That's not possible until the 19th when they'll actually be holding the phones. Then people will start complaining again; I had no idea it was that huge or something similar.
Pretty sure there is at least one 5.5" phone on the market today that anyone can go hold and see how it feels in hand. The iPhone will feel slightly different but even magical Apple can't really somehow make 5.5" feel less than 5.5"

I've been reading people's comments here on what size they'll go for and it's interesting. Prior to the keynote, the majority of users were 100% sure they'll get the 4.7" saying "no way I'm getting a phone that huge", or "I don't have an Android phone for a reason", "not walking around with a phone that big", " I don't need a phablet, I have an iPad", "don't want to carry around a man purse", etc. etc. After the keynote it's like Apple brainwashed people. I came back to the forums and was surprised to see that many have changed their minds, the same/most of the users who were completely against the 5.5" have very different opinions. Now they're saying "buy the 5.5" iPhone or you're going to regret it", "those who will be getting the 4.7 will be jealous when they see us with the 5.5" , " the iPhone Plus is not that big", "it's OK my pockets are big", etc. etc. Now don't get me wrong, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that but I'm a bit confused as to why some strongly advice people to go for the 5.5 as opposed to the 4.7. Saying that the 4.7 is not different from the 5S and that it's hardly an upgrade. From what I've seen and read, the iPhone 6 Plus has:

* obviously a bigger screen - I'm pretty sure the screen size is not the reason why some will be getting the iPhone Plus.
* better resolution - Both the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are considered to have "Retina HD" displays.
* better battery life - of course the 5.5 has better battery life. It's a big phone, it needs more juice. But what you'll be doing on your phone will affect the battery life, it's not like it won't need any charging.
* optical image stabilization - The 6 Plus has optical image stabilization while the 6 only digital image stabilization.


Are these the 3 reasons (not counting screen size) why most people have changed their minds about the 5.5? Will this really make future iPhone 6 (4.7) owners jealous of future iPhone 6 Plus owners? Am I missing something here?
First, your biggest issue is to think that "jealousy" plays a part in any of this. If I don't want a 5.5" iPhone then I have no reason to be jealous over someone who does. Now, did anyone actually think that Apple would release two iPhones with different sized screens and put the same features in both? **** no they wouldn't do that. There has to be a sell for each. The 4.7" has size going for it. Those who cannot stand the idea of a 5.5" phone in their purse or pocket will gravitate towards the smaller phone. The larger phone was given features that will make it a true success.

Yes, people who didn't want the 5.5" on Monday will want it now. It happens and to think that you somehow believe that you're on to something here identifying some sort of hypocrisy is hilarious. This happens every single release and it seems as though you should not be confused at all. There is at least one thing the masses claim will stop them from buying and yet they'll be playing on their new shiny device come release day.

The iPhone 6 is an upgrade from the 5S as far as I can tell. It is not worth a jump to me if I am on the 5S, but it is still an upgrade. The iPhone 6+ is definitely an upgrade but again, when you start stepping into the 5"+ realm, you lose some customers who just see no need for such a large iPhone.
 
Physically bigger, but never forget that it somehow manages to have a SMALLER screen!

A smaller screen with less pixel density, no less. Fortunately, the iPhone is more than the sum of its parts; this is just something that is leaving me hesitant about getting the 6+. I probably will; like I said the battery life was the clincher for me (OIS is what my wife is after), but it's going to take some getting used to. No more one-handed solitaire...the game, I swear I mean the game.
 
How can the 6 get the same features as the 6 plus when their both released at the same time? It's clear that Apple is not going down that path for at least 2 years. Maybe in 2016.

The Plus has the optical stabilization which is tons better than digital. Means less camera shake because the stabilization is done via mechanical means. With digital image stabilization it tries to counter that shake by bumping up ISO levels or by using special software algorithms which causes noise in pictures. The Plus has a higher DPI screen with a more common resolution. The battery is also bigger in the plus. And finally it appears that software will be optimized on the plus making it a smaller iPad mini; bigger screen = more information. I personally would not buy a iPad mini (or sale your existing one). Developers will no doubt make "phablet" optimized apps if $$$ is involved further making the 4.7" the red headed stepchild.

Here is a pic of OIS.

I said they could bring Some of the features to the iPhone 6. For instance, they could allow the 6 home screen to work in landscape with future iOS updates.
 
I always wanted a 4.7. Then started thinking maybe a 5.5 would be worth it. I found myself listening to the 'Hands-on' reviews and filtering out words like 'deceptively big' and 'massive' while trying to convince myself that 'it wasn't as big as I thought it would look.

For Apple to release a 5.5" has to be a shock. Being a tech enthusiast and current Samsung Note owner for the last two years you guys will enjoy the larger phone. But with the 5.5" being taller than the Note 4 you will have to make huge adjustments.

1. No skinny pants. This 5.5" bad boy will be sticking out of your pockets like no tomorrow. It will also feel uncomfortable depending on the type of pants you have.

2. Don't put the phone in your back pocket. From the pictures that thing will bend; guaranteed.

3. Case selection will be critical. A Otterbox will make this phone unbearable. I refuse to use a Otterbox with my Note 3.

4. Don't sleep with the phone especially if you don't have a sturdy case. You will bend the phone.

5. And be prepared to hear; "That phone is huge" from all your family members and friends. Even your 4.7" iPhone friends will join in on the fun.

6. And owning a smaller tablet like the iPad mini will become useless. Even the 10" iPad will become a questionable purchase. Developers will just focus on the larger iPhone due to the iPad market being saturated. This is a new platform (first phablet from Apple).

7. Invest in a good pair of Bluetooth headphones to minimize holding it. I use a pair of first gen LG Tone+ 7xx and I love them.
 
First, your biggest issue is to think that "jealousy" plays a part in any of this. If I don't want a 5.5" iPhone then I have no reason to be jealous over someone who does. Now, did anyone actually think that Apple would release two iPhones with different sized screens and put the same features in both? **** no they wouldn't do that. There has to be a sell for each. The 4.7" has size going for it. Those who cannot stand the idea of a 5.5" phone in their purse or pocket will gravitate towards the smaller phone. The larger phone was given features that will make it a true success.

Yes, people who didn't want the 5.5" on Monday will want it now. It happens and to think that you somehow believe that you're on to something here identifying some sort of hypocrisy is hilarious. This happens every single release and it seems as though you should not be confused at all. There is at least one thing the masses claim will stop them from buying and yet they'll be playing on their new shiny device come release day.

Where in my post did I state people are hypocritical? I said there is absolutely nothing wrong with people changing their minds. I just wanted to make sure that I'm not missing any other big features available on the 6 Plus only, other than the three I have listed. Perhaps it's because none of these features matter to me and it made me think surely there is something more but it turns out these are the only three features exclusive and I simply don't need them. And that is why my decision to get the 4.7 is not a hard one, but I see how it is for people who want one or more of the features exclusive to the iPhone 6 Plus. What worries me is not people changing their minds about the larger phone, I honestly don't care what people will go for as it won't affect me, like I already stated, I have made my decision.
 
There is nothing wrong with iPhone 6 or whatever choice you make for yourself. We don't need another one of those threads trying to justify your purchase or your choice. Pick what you like and be done with it.

Most posters just feel they can get something BETTER with the 6 Plus. They have all the right to choose that for themselves too, ya know? There's nothing wrong with the iPhone 6 (4.7), but others want what they feel is something BETTER with those same reasons the OP listed.
 
So if you buy a 4.7" model how would you feel if App developers concentrate more on the 5.5" model with apps designed for the bigger screen? Even Apple made their 1st party apps look better on the 5.5" which I find odd; they made the 4.7" look worst.
Common Sense dictates that you can fit more on a larger screen.
 
I said they could bring Some of the features to the iPhone 6. For instance, they could allow the 6 home screen to work in landscape with future iOS updates.

For some reason I thought the regular 6 does that already. I was talking more about the hardware differences. You can do anything you want via software if it makes sense. I can can easily force tablet mode for apps with a flip of a software switch on my Note 3.
 
For some reason I thought the regular 6 does that already. I was talking more about the hardware differences. You can do anything you want via software if it makes sense. I can can easily force tablet mode for apps with a flip of a software switch on my Note 3.

It looks like the Plus is the only model that will allow the landscape home screen. Kind of a bummer. I always thought that the iPhone should operate like the iPad does, allowing for portrait or landscape view throughout the entire device.
 
To put things in perspective, the 6+ is 1/4" taller, 0.06" narrower and 0.05" thinner than a Galaxy Note 3.

I had a note 3 and found it was brilliant for everything except actually making calls when it just felt incredibly awkward

The 6 is pretty much the same size as a Galaxy 5S and is the one I'd get if I was in the market
 
I am so devastated that OIS is only on the plus phone....i would very much prefer a 4.7" phone with OIS. Screw HD resolution.....my 4S is pretty clear enough for me already

Rant over :-(
 
I think what people need to consider when trying to decide is:

-- how many pictures do you take and how often do you take them?
-- Do you use your phone more like an iPad or a tablet? In other words, is it your go-to device for browsing when just lounging around or do you pull out your iPad or other tablet for those purposes?
-- Do you carry your phone in your pocket or do you tend to carry it in your hand and place it somewhere near you wherever you go?

Questions like this that really highlight the differences between the two models will surely help one to decide. Another factor:

-- Rumor is that Apple will be releasing a LARGER iPad... would you rather differentiate devices or meet somewhere in the middle?

For me:

I take pics/vids a LOT. My iPhone 5 has been good but I'd like better low-light pictures. I'm not sure I'd benefit from having the better camera technology on the larger phone based on what kind of pictures/vids I take

Although my phone is usually my browsing go-to, I have been pulling out the iPad a bit more frequently these days. I also fully intend to upgrade if/when Apple releases a larger iPad.

I carry my (naked) iPhone 5 in my pocket. I stopped using a case b/c I hated how bulky it was in my pocket. I love not having a case on and I won't use a case with the next one either.

I still can't justify the larger phone for me. I am sort of old school in that I like to have my music/files LOCAL on my phone (so I'll be going for 128GB since my 64 is full) and I think there's merit in differentiating between devices (phone versus tablet).

Really, I'd be a good candidate for the 5.5" and I am not saying I'll never own one -- but for this go-round I think I'll go for the 4.7" and save my $100 toward the new iPad if it comes out and is bigger!
 
So if you buy a 4.7" model how would you feel if App developers concentrate more on the 5.5" model with apps designed for the bigger screen? Even Apple made their 1st party apps look better on the 5.5" which I find odd; they made the 4.7" look worst.

Because I doubt the 5.5 costs wholesale am extra $100. Likely apple are making more profit on the 5.5. Restrictions g features from the cheaper version of a product is standard marketing. I have a 4.4litre BMW. My friend has a 4.8. They are very similar cars but >$10k price difference new. The 4.4 has lots of things missing to encourage you to buy the more expensive one.
 
So if you buy a 4.7" model how would you feel if App developers concentrate more on the 5.5" model with apps designed for the bigger screen? Even Apple made their 1st party apps look better on the 5.5" which I find odd; they made the 4.7" look worst.

I agree that the apps will look better on the 5.5", but 6.22" footprint is too large to overcome the aesthetics of the apps. I fear that the 5.44" footprint of the 4.7" will be too big to use at the gym, as I carry it in my pocket. And I'm not interested in buying new gym clothes just to carry a stinkin' phone.

I'm regretting not getting the 5s last year; though, I do love the look of the 6's way more than the 5/5s.

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I am so devastated that OIS is only on the plus phone....i would very much prefer a 4.7" phone with OIS. Screw HD resolution.....my 4S is pretty clear enough for me already

Rant over :-(

I agree 100%. :apple:
 
A smaller screen with less pixel density, no less.

You won't be able to tell the difference between the 401ppi of the iPhone 6+ and the 326ppi of the 4.7 iPhone 6. I have seen a couple of hands-on videos, and they all mention this same thing, that it's visible only when compared to a 5S and older.
 
You won't be able to tell the difference between the 401ppi of the iPhone 6+ and the 326ppi of the 4.7 iPhone 6. I have seen a couple of hands-on videos, and they all mention this same thing, that it's visible only when compared to a 5S and older.

I was referring to the fact that the iPhone 6+ is slightly taller than the Note 4 while also having a smaller screen and lower pixel density/resolution.

Personally I agree, I wouldn't notice the difference in screen quality and the Retina display on my 5S currently looks perfect to me. I'm simply pointing out that it seems kind of sad that Apple's phones are now lagging in several different areas versus their competitors. Again, the iPhone is more than the sum of its parts...I get that. I just think it would have been nice if they had broken the iPhone mold a little bit and maybe made the top and bottom bezels thinner or something. As I say that, I'll be waking up at 2am Friday morning to pre-order two 64 GB 6+s, so who am I to complain?
 
2 Words: PEER PRESSURE

There is always a large element to any popular device of needing to have the "top of the line" model. Because Apple chose to include a couple of extras, and because it is priced $100 more, now people who choose the 4.7 will "only" be getting the "2nd best" iPhone, and that carries a LOT of weight (as evidenced by the flip flopping).

If the screen was the ONLY difference (and they kept PPI the same), and price was identical, I am absolutely positive the "Plus" would get less of the folks it's attracting...

Heck, even naming it "Plus" implies that it's the superior model.

Frankly, the 4.7 is a BIG difference from the 5S. It would impress most people without any doubt. But people also want to know they have the "best", and will make compromises to follow the crowd.

I'm sticking to my original plan: Order a 4.7, and if the 5.5 ends up more desireable to me after a few weeks, I'll give the 4.7 to the wife and buy a 5.5.

I have a hunch the 4.7 will be PLENTY though. Especially because I have always hated the Note simply because it's unwieldy to use everywhere. Sure, on the couch or in a stable environment it's great, but moving around, when physical space is at a premium, or even just taking it with me to a movie, the 4.7 seems MUCH more manageable.

Even the 4.7 is bigger than I would want if we're being honest. If I had a choice I wish they would offer an iPhone "mini" lol. Being what they are though, the 4.7 is the best choice out of the gate.

That 5.5 is a BEHEMOTH. It reminds me of the year I toted around a PDA. Not good memories there. We shall see. Not ruling it out, but definitely not following the crowd on this one.

:cool:
 
idk if this matters, but the 4.7" has 1400:1 contrast ratio
while the 5.5" has 1300:1 ratio.

Is this a big difference?
 
idk if this matters, but the 4.7" has 1400:1 contrast ratio
while the 5.5" has 1300:1 ratio.

Is this a big difference?

No, you won't notice it. Both have superior contrast in comparison to the 5S so the screen quality between the two will most likely be the same. I advise you to wait for the reviews.
 
I almost committed the heinous act of going over to android for a bigger screen. Now that Apple has a 5.5 inch screen, I'm beyond excited. 5.5 for me all day everyday!
 
So if you buy a 4.7" model how would you feel if App developers concentrate more on the 5.5" model with apps designed for the bigger screen? Even Apple made their 1st party apps look better on the 5.5" which I find odd; they made the 4.7" look worst.

I absolutely adore the picture next to the contact thread that the 6+ offers...it's the little features like that that push me to it over the 4.7" offering.
 
Here's the thing.

To the consumer, it's a bad strategy.

When somebody looks at the iPad Air or iPad Mini, the ONLY thing they need to consider is, which screen size do I want?

Here, there is much more, and it leads to a situation where neither is the phone you might truly want.

I want the best camera, the best battery life, the new software tricks, the split screen apps... But I also want a phone that's comfortable to use with my relatively small hands.

So, I should get the iPhone 6 Plus, but I'll be annoyed everytime I wear a pair of trousers with small pockets.

So, I should get the iPhone 6, but everytime I take a photo I will know it might not be as good a picture as it would have been.

I'm torn, and as a consumer, who is about to pay over £600 on a new device, I worry that I might not be happy with either.

(Yes yes, first world problems, I know)

This man speaks the truth. I was dead set on buying the 4.7 inch, but due to just these few small advantages the 6+ has - which probably won't actually be THAT noticeable - it's like my brain has been subconsciously brainwashed into thinking the 4.7 inch is the inferior device, and therefore I won't be completely happy with it....it's strange stuff to be sure but it'd be nice if there was just compete feature parity so this problem doesn't exist. I'm sure it's not just me!
 
I absolutely adore the picture next to the contact thread that the 6+ offers...it's the little features like that that push me to it over the 4.7" offering.


Do you mean the avatars in Messages?
 
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