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There's nothing wrong with the iPhone 6 (4.7) ... Right?
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I've always used a mophie on my 5s which really puts the size of that phone to be the same as the 6 without a case. I like the 5.5 but I think it might be too big per my cardboard cutout. You don't get that great of an improvement in battery life realistically. I'm still interested in getting a mophie for the 6 but even with that on, it will be smaller than the 6+ with a lot better battery life with the second battery. I couldn't even imagine using a mophie on a 6+...
The problem is that the 5.5" has all the features everyone wants.
When you're spending such a large amount of money, you want it to have everything you're looking in an upgrade. Next to the 6+, the 6 kinda just feels like a faster 5/5S, considering all those above features aren't included. People who used to be anti-5.5", are now thinking, "Wow, why would I spend $1000+ AUD to not have the best, most up to date phone with all the features I want/need??".
Some, as you pointed out, are now looking at the 6+ so they don't miss out on the true "next-gen" features, others, like me, want the features, but don't want that sized phone, so they won't be upgrading at all.
Apple are effectively pushing a lot people towards the 5.5" phone, but as mentioned, I think it will also result in a lot of people not buying either the 6/6+.
- A true landscape mode, you know, utilising the full width of the screen in a lot of apps. Exclusive to iPhone 6+.
- A full 1080p display
- Optical Image Stabilisation
- Better battery life.
When you're spending such a large amount of money, you want it to have everything you're looking in an upgrade. Next to the 6+, the 6 kinda just feels like a faster 5/5S, considering all those above features aren't included. People who used to be anti-5.5", are now thinking, "Wow, why would I spend $1000+ AUD to not have the best, most up to date phone with all the features I want/need??".
Some, as you pointed out, are now looking at the 6+ so they don't miss out on the true "next-gen" features, others, like me, want the features, but don't want that sized phone, so they won't be upgrading at all.
Apple are effectively pushing a lot people towards the 5.5" phone, but as mentioned, I think it will also result in a lot of people not buying either the 6/6+.
There is nothing wrong with the 4.7" iPhone 6, no. I am surprised that Apple have held features off it for its bigger brother though. This choice for many people is about size and size only. For me isn't doesn't matter if the 'Plus' has better features because the handicap for my needs is its size. As I have said on other threads I am not a fan of huge phones because I use them mainly as a phone and secondary as a media device. The 4.7" option is significantly bigger than my current iPhone and the 'Plus' is even bigger again. For me that is too big a leap and for something I just don't need. I couldn't carry it around comfortably in my pocket throughout the day. I know this from trying the 'Note' previously.
This makes me wonder why Apple are pushing the bigger of the two devices and giving it the slightly better spec? Surely the 4.7" will be the more popular seller, or we assume? The Samsung S5 sells in larger numbers than their current Note 3. Why? We assume because the size plays a major part. I don't see as many Note's in use as I do other Samsung models, but regional trends could apply there. Are Apple trying to sway the way consumers think in terms of this, or are they simply hoping we will pay the extra 100 quid because we have to for better stuff? I don't know. This could be the tester going forward to see which is popular, but my own projection is the smaller iPhone will be the popular one. There is obviously demand for both and I expect both to do well. I wonder if we will ever know the true figures?
I will be ordering the 4.7" device on Friday and will be more than happy with it I am sure. It looks to be a great phone and a decent upgrade to my iPhone 5.
This makes me wonder why Apple are pushing the bigger of the two devices and giving it the slightly better spec? Surely the 4.7" will be the more popular seller, or we assume? The Samsung S5 sells in larger numbers than their current Note 3. Why? We assume because the size plays a major part. I don't see as many Note's in use as I do other Samsung models, but regional trends could apply there. Are Apple trying to sway the way consumers think in terms of this, or are they simply hoping we will pay the extra 100 quid because we have to for better stuff? I don't know. This could be the tester going forward to see which is popular, but my own projection is the smaller iPhone will be the popular one. There is obviously demand for both and I expect both to do well. I wonder if we will ever know the true figures?
I will be ordering the 4.7" device on Friday and will be more than happy with it I am sure. It looks to be a great phone and a decent upgrade to my iPhone 5.
It occurred to me the other day that this is exactly the same as we used to do with our bikes when we were 8 - "My bike's bigger than yours", "My bike has more gears", etc.
We haven't grown up at all!
100% agree with your comments. However, if the current iPhone (I have the 5S) is adequate...try not to get caught up in the emotional aspect of it and just decide based off your own logic. The iPhone 6 is superior in all aspects over the 5S. Yeah, it doesn't have some of the nifty 6+ features, but did you need those features yesterday? My point is, we as consumers see "upgrades" and instantly get emotionally attached and generate a desire/need for those upgrades. The way I see it, it's between 5.5" screen versus 4.7" screen. If you knew going in that the 5.5" was for you...decision made. However, if you're now on the fence based on the 6+ only features...then stay with the 4.7" offering...you'll be happier in the long run.
Both phones are awesome...good luck!
Hypocritical was my word and initially I was going to state such but I figured you would know that if you didn't use the word then you'd know it was my word. What you are saying is that people are hypocritical though, by definition. You wrote that prior to the keynote members were against the rumored update to the iPhone but now your observation is that they're not and to such an extent that some users are now stating that people need to buy the 5.5" or they'll regret it and 4.7" buyers will be jealous of the 5.5" phone. Although a bit strong to call someone a hypocrite for such a change in opinion, it is definitely what you're saying. It doesn't mean you're not on board with a pack of strangers who changed their minds, but it means that your observation is that they have. I still say that it is no big deal. It shouldn't bother you one way or the other, but it certainly came to your attention and you started a topic to discuss.
To me it seems rather hard to rationalize the 4.7 phone when the features and battery are better on the 5.5. Yes, it's bigger, but I mostly use my phone for media consumption and browsing in the first place. For only a hundred extra dollars you get a lot more for your money.
You're misunderstanding. I don't think you really know what my intention was for creating this thread. And you keep ignoring the fact that I said "there is absolutely nothing wrong with people changing their minds" in my initial post. What I wanted to know is if there are other features I'm missing that are exclusive to the iPhone 6 Plus. That is all.
The 5.5" has major weaknesses that people are forgetting:
Both 4.7" and 5.5" have the same CPU and GPU. But the 5.5" has to render 3x mode at over 2208 x 1242 then scale it down to 1920x1080. The 4.7" only has to render 2x mode at 1334x750.
The 4.7" only has to process 1 million pixels, the 5.5" has to do a massive 2.7 million *and* scale that back to 2 million.
The 5.5" bitmap graphics will use up 2.7x as much RAM as the 4.7"!
What this all means is that the 5.5" is going to have to do probably around 3 times as much work as the 4.7" to drive its graphics. This means that games could run around 2.7x the frame rate on the 4.7" as they do on the 5.5". It means that loading times for games and high graphic intensive apps are going to be 2.7x longer on the 5.5" because its need to load the much bigger 3x graphics.
Many of the reviewers have already noticed that the 4.7" is more fluid than the 5.5". This is not something that will be 'ironed' out. Both have the same CPU/GPU, so the 4.7" will always be faster. Even if they make the 5.5" more fluid, the 4.7" will go even faster. Its like when you turn down the resolution in games.
Not to mention that the 5.5" is thicker and much heavier.
To me its a no-brainer. Apple have thrown in one good feature for the 5.5": the optical image stabilization. I don't think its needed - the focus pixels will allow quicker zoom on the 4.7". Its slow focusing, not wobbly hands, that is the problem for most people. So the 4.7" camera improvements are great anyway.
The 5.5" when you think about, it actually kind of stupid. You waste that CPU and GPU power to render 2208x1242, only to waste even more energy throwing data away down scaling to 1920x1080.
(BTW: I would no be surprised at all if the 5.5" turned out to have 2GB of RAM and the 4.7" only 1GB of RAM.The 5.5" is going to need some sort of memory boost: all graphics will take up 2.7x as much space).
Both 4.7" and 5.5" have the same CPU and GPU. But the 5.5" has to render 3x mode at over 2208 x 1242 then scale it down to 1920x1080. The 4.7" only has to render 2x mode at 1334x750.
The 4.7" only has to process 1 million pixels, the 5.5" has to do a massive 2.7 million *and* scale that back to 2 million.
The 5.5" bitmap graphics will use up 2.7x as much RAM as the 4.7"!
What this all means is that the 5.5" is going to have to do probably around 3 times as much work as the 4.7" to drive its graphics. This means that games could run around 2.7x the frame rate on the 4.7" as they do on the 5.5". It means that loading times for games and high graphic intensive apps are going to be 2.7x longer on the 5.5" because its need to load the much bigger 3x graphics.
Many of the reviewers have already noticed that the 4.7" is more fluid than the 5.5". This is not something that will be 'ironed' out. Both have the same CPU/GPU, so the 4.7" will always be faster. Even if they make the 5.5" more fluid, the 4.7" will go even faster. Its like when you turn down the resolution in games.
Not to mention that the 5.5" is thicker and much heavier.
To me its a no-brainer. Apple have thrown in one good feature for the 5.5": the optical image stabilization. I don't think its needed - the focus pixels will allow quicker zoom on the 4.7". Its slow focusing, not wobbly hands, that is the problem for most people. So the 4.7" camera improvements are great anyway.
The 5.5" when you think about, it actually kind of stupid. You waste that CPU and GPU power to render 2208x1242, only to waste even more energy throwing data away down scaling to 1920x1080.
(BTW: I would no be surprised at all if the 5.5" turned out to have 2GB of RAM and the 4.7" only 1GB of RAM.The 5.5" is going to need some sort of memory boost: all graphics will take up 2.7x as much space).
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No way I'm gonna be jealous of iPhone 6+ owners. I never want huge phone so regular iPhone 6 is perfect for me. (to tell the truth, a bit too big for me already)
No features will lure me to huge phone. Period.
Well said, Jobs was Apples God. He exerted so much power over his flock, they'd wait for him to tell them what they needed and they'd run out, get in line no matter the weather, lining up at Apples stores for days just to buy the gadget Steve blessed. An impressive feat.
I just don't get why people care what others think. Get the phone regardless if it's apple , Samsung or what ever. What's the best is what works best for you. I'm getting the 5.5 because of my physical limitations a larger screen is nice and I like the Eco system of Apple.
I don't say android is better or worst, just doesn't fulfill the needs I want. So get something that you'll enjoy and not regret buying because you wanted be one of the in crowd.
I don't say android is better or worst, just doesn't fulfill the needs I want. So get something that you'll enjoy and not regret buying because you wanted be one of the in crowd.