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Except for the fact that that phone would be too thin to contain everything, the volume switch is inoperable because it is TINY and the silent toggle was removed. That would be a step backwards in development. Not to mention that the direction of the taper makes no sense from an ergonomic standpoint.




Not every phone/device to ever feature a layered construction looks the same. Especially not in person. I'd expect aluminum and glass to look (and feel) a lot more sturdy than something made from two colors of molded plastic. In case you haven't noticed, aluminum and glass is very very common amongst Apple products.

Oh I'm not doubting it will be made well, it just seems like a step back in the beauty department for Apple.
 
I agree this is planted by Apple

There is NO WAY that Apple allowed some engineer to take it out of his room let alone the building.
It is a CELL PHONE. It needs to be tested IN THE FIELD.

They're going to sell XX millions of these things, and without real world testing there could develop serious issues down the line that may ultimately result in a class-action lawsuit extravaganza of epic proportions.

Keeping the phone locked inside a vault during the R&D phase is one thing, but Apple's desire for total secrecy is a mere pipe dream only 8 weeks before the launch. It needs to be thoroughly tested by carriers, the FCC, the equivalents of FCC all around the world, it needs to be filmed and photographed by ad agencies. Accessory manufacturers need phones or at least dummy phones for designing cases, docks and dashboard holders. The Chinese are already ramping up production so that the depots around the world can have phones ready to ship by June. And I guarantee you that all these things aren't happening inside a single building in Cupertino.

Man, it's the same every time. Every time.

- Pictures and descriptions of an upcoming Apple product emerge.

- Naysayers topple over eachother to be the first to say...

"FAKE!"
"Totally un-Apple."
"Apple would NEVER design something that ugly."
"Obvious Photoshop job, I can totally see the artifacts and perspective inconsistencies"
"Definitely a mockup, home built by amateurs, I'm 110% sure because I'm an industrial design expert."
"Was Steve on sick leave when they designed this?"

- Keynote day. Everyone watching realtime text updates.
- As details and stills slowly emerge it becomes apparent that the rumors were 99% accurate and the photos were the real deal.

- The naysayers disappear underground, only to re-emerge in time for the next batch of rumors and pictures, and repeat more or less exactly the same things they said the last time. While underground, they're busy playing with the new Apple device they dismissed as fake/ugly/bogus, because they ran out and bought one 10 minutes after the Keynote.
 
It is a CELL PHONE. It needs to be tested IN THE FIELD.

They're going to sell XX millions of these things, and without real world testing there could develop serious issues down the line that may ultimately result in a class-action lawsuit extravaganza of epic proportions.

Keeping the phone locked inside a vault during the R&D phase is one thing, but Apple's desire for total secrecy is a mere pipe dream only 8 weeks before the launch. It needs to be thoroughly tested by carriers, the FCC, the equivalents of FCC all around the world, it needs to be filmed and photographed by ad agencies. Accessory manufacturers need phones or at least dummy phones for designing cases, docks and dashboard holders. The Chinese are already ramping up production so that the depots around the world can have phones ready to ship by June. And I guarantee you that all these things aren't happening inside a single building in Cupertino.

Man, it's the same every time. Every time.

- Pictures and descriptions of an upcoming Apple product emerge.

- Naysayers topple over eachother to be the first to say...

"FAKE!"
"Totally un-Apple."
"Apple would NEVER design something that ugly."
"Obvious Photoshop job, I can totally see the artifacts and perspective inconsistencies"
"Definitely a mockup, home built by amateurs, I'm 110% sure because I'm an industrial design expert."
"Was Steve on sick leave when they designed this?"

- Keynote day. Everyone watching realtime text updates.
- As details and stills slowly emerge it becomes apparent that the rumors were 99% accurate and the photos were the real deal.

- The naysayers disappear underground, only to re-emerge in time for the next batch of rumors and pictures, and repeat more or less exactly the same things they said the last time. While underground, they're busy playing with the new Apple device they dismissed as fake/ugly/bogus, because they ran out and bought one 10 minutes after the Keynote.

Lol. You just described the life of a fanboy
 
- Keynote day. Everyone watching realtime text updates.
- As details and stills slowly emerge it becomes apparent that the rumors were 99% accurate and the photos were the real deal.

- The naysayers disappear underground, only to re-emerge in time for the next batch of rumors and pictures, and repeat more or less exactly the same things they said the last time. While underground, they're busy playing with the new Apple device they dismissed as fake/ugly/bogus, because they ran out and bought one 10 minutes after the Keynote.
You forgot where after the Keynote some people complain about how it didn't have so and so like that rumor said it would.
 
It is a CELL PHONE. It needs to be tested IN THE FIELD.

They're going to sell XX millions of these things, and without real world testing there could develop serious issues down the line that may ultimately result in a class-action lawsuit extravaganza of epic proportions.

Keeping the phone locked inside a vault during the R&D phase is one thing, but Apple's desire for total secrecy is a mere pipe dream only 8 weeks before the launch. It needs to be thoroughly tested by carriers, the FCC, the equivalents of FCC all around the world, it needs to be filmed and photographed by ad agencies. Accessory manufacturers need phones or at least dummy phones for designing cases, docks and dashboard holders. The Chinese are already ramping up production so that the depots around the world can have phones ready to ship by June. And I guarantee you that all these things aren't happening inside a single building in Cupertino.

Man, it's the same every time. Every time.

- Pictures and descriptions of an upcoming Apple product emerge.

- Naysayers topple over eachother to be the first to say...

"FAKE!"
"Totally un-Apple."
"Apple would NEVER design something that ugly."
"Obvious Photoshop job, I can totally see the artifacts and perspective inconsistencies"
"Definitely a mockup, home built by amateurs, I'm 110% sure because I'm an industrial design expert."
"Was Steve on sick leave when they designed this?"

- Keynote day. Everyone watching realtime text updates.
- As details and stills slowly emerge it becomes apparent that the rumors were 99% accurate and the photos were the real deal.

- The naysayers disappear underground, only to re-emerge in time for the next batch of rumors and pictures, and repeat more or less exactly the same things they said the last time. While underground, they're busy playing with the new Apple device they dismissed as fake/ugly/bogus, because they ran out and bought one 10 minutes after the Keynote.

spot on!!!!
 
It is a CELL PHONE. It needs to be tested IN THE FIELD.

They're going to sell XX millions of these things, and without real world testing there could develop serious issues down the line that may ultimately result in a class-action lawsuit extravaganza of epic proportions.

Keeping the phone locked inside a vault during the R&D phase is one thing, but Apple's desire for total secrecy is a mere pipe dream only 8 weeks before the launch. It needs to be thoroughly tested by carriers, the FCC, the equivalents of FCC all around the world, it needs to be filmed and photographed by ad agencies. Accessory manufacturers need phones or at least dummy phones for designing cases, docks and dashboard holders. The Chinese are already ramping up production so that the depots around the world can have phones ready to ship by June. And I guarantee you that all these things aren't happening inside a single building in Cupertino.

Man, it's the same every time. Every time.

- Pictures and descriptions of an upcoming Apple product emerge.

- Naysayers topple over eachother to be the first to say...

"FAKE!"
"Totally un-Apple."
"Apple would NEVER design something that ugly."
"Obvious Photoshop job, I can totally see the artifacts and perspective inconsistencies"
"Definitely a mockup, home built by amateurs, I'm 110% sure because I'm an industrial design expert."
"Was Steve on sick leave when they designed this?"

- Keynote day. Everyone watching realtime text updates.
- As details and stills slowly emerge it becomes apparent that the rumors were 99% accurate and the photos were the real deal.

- The naysayers disappear underground, only to re-emerge in time for the next batch of rumors and pictures, and repeat more or less exactly the same things they said the last time. While underground, they're busy playing with the new Apple device they dismissed as fake/ugly/bogus, because they ran out and bought one 10 minutes after the Keynote.

Wow! So there are human beings on this forum who actually live in the real world...

Powerful post! And funny too.



Posted from my BlackBerry Storm2
 
Guy above is spot on.

Do you think Apple will now change the design of the iPhone or release the product which is spilled out over the internet?
 
It is a CELL PHONE. It needs to be tested IN THE FIELD.

They're going to sell XX millions of these things, and without real world testing there could develop serious issues down the line that may ultimately result in a class-action lawsuit extravaganza of epic proportions.

Keeping the phone locked inside a vault during the R&D phase is one thing, but Apple's desire for total secrecy is a mere pipe dream only 8 weeks before the launch. It needs to be thoroughly tested by carriers, the FCC, the equivalents of FCC all around the world, it needs to be filmed and photographed by ad agencies. Accessory manufacturers need phones or at least dummy phones for designing cases, docks and dashboard holders. The Chinese are already ramping up production so that the depots around the world can have phones ready to ship by June. And I guarantee you that all these things aren't happening inside a single building in Cupertino.

Man, it's the same every time. Every time.

- Pictures and descriptions of an upcoming Apple product emerge.

- Naysayers topple over eachother to be the first to say...

"FAKE!"
"Totally un-Apple."
"Apple would NEVER design something that ugly."
"Obvious Photoshop job, I can totally see the artifacts and perspective inconsistencies"
"Definitely a mockup, home built by amateurs, I'm 110% sure because I'm an industrial design expert."
"Was Steve on sick leave when they designed this?"

- Keynote day. Everyone watching realtime text updates.
- As details and stills slowly emerge it becomes apparent that the rumors were 99% accurate and the photos were the real deal.

- The naysayers disappear underground, only to re-emerge in time for the next batch of rumors and pictures, and repeat more or less exactly the same things they said the last time. While underground, they're busy playing with the new Apple device they dismissed as fake/ugly/bogus, because they ran out and bought one 10 minutes after the Keynote.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
 
It is a CELL PHONE. It needs to be tested IN THE FIELD.

They're going to sell XX millions of these things, and without real world testing there could develop serious issues down the line that may ultimately result in a class-action lawsuit extravaganza of epic proportions.

Keeping the phone locked inside a vault during the R&D phase is one thing, but Apple's desire for total secrecy is a mere pipe dream only 8 weeks before the launch. It needs to be thoroughly tested by carriers, the FCC, the equivalents of FCC all around the world, it needs to be filmed and photographed by ad agencies. Accessory manufacturers need phones or at least dummy phones for designing cases, docks and dashboard holders. The Chinese are already ramping up production so that the depots around the world can have phones ready to ship by June. And I guarantee you that all these things aren't happening inside a single building in Cupertino.

Man, it's the same every time. Every time.

- Pictures and descriptions of an upcoming Apple product emerge.

- Naysayers topple over eachother to be the first to say...

"FAKE!"
"Totally un-Apple."
"Apple would NEVER design something that ugly."
"Obvious Photoshop job, I can totally see the artifacts and perspective inconsistencies"
"Definitely a mockup, home built by amateurs, I'm 110% sure because I'm an industrial design expert."
"Was Steve on sick leave when they designed this?"

- Keynote day. Everyone watching realtime text updates.
- As details and stills slowly emerge it becomes apparent that the rumors were 99% accurate and the photos were the real deal.

- The naysayers disappear underground, only to re-emerge in time for the next batch of rumors and pictures, and repeat more or less exactly the same things they said the last time. While underground, they're busy playing with the new Apple device they dismissed as fake/ugly/bogus, because they ran out and bought one 10 minutes after the Keynote.

OOOOOOOO, Preach.
 
So what CPU was in it? that would have been the first thing I looked at after opening it up and not even a mention of it so far as I can tell what gives?
 
Guy above is spot on.

Do you think Apple will now change the design of the iPhone or release the product which is spilled out over the internet?

I was really looking for it to be very similar in looks to the iPad (rounded back/sharp-ish edges). It would be amazing if that ceramic material was colorized to look like aluminum :D Maybe this device was simply being used to test the new materials, and is just a barebones sample designed flat so it could fit inside a 3G-looking case?

pauldy said:
So what CPU was in it? that would have been the first thing I looked at after opening it up and not even a mention of it so far as I can tell what gives?
This. Seriously they tore it apart to examine the ribbon cables, but didn't happen to snap a pic of the cpu??? wtf
 
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Originally Posted by pauldy
So what CPU was in it? that would have been the first thing I looked at after opening it up and not even a mention of it so far as I can tell what gives?
This. Seriously they tore it apart to examine the ribbon cables, but didn't happen to snap a pic of the cpu??? wtf


This. Seriously they tore it apart to examine the ribbon cables, but didn't happen to snap a pic of the cpu??? wtf

exactly. why the hell wouldn't you delve into it further?
 
I was really looking for it to be very similar in looks to the iPad (rounded back/sharp-ish edges). It would be amazing if that ceramic material was colorized to look like aluminum :D Maybe this device was simply being used to test the new materials, and is just a barebones sample designed flat so it could fit inside a 3G-looking case?
Maybe zirconia (zirconium dioxide, the material used for the back -- Apple filed a patent for using this on mobile devices back in 2006) doesn't like to be molded into curved shapes...?

I'm certainly no expert on ceramics, but what I do know is that zirconia has extremely low thermal conductivity. So low in fact that it's used as thermal coating inside jet engines. This poses a design challenge for Apple -- normally their devices are cased in aluminum which is nifty because it keeps the interior cool, but they can't cover the iPhones back with aluminum because it makes the wireless reception suck... that's why they went for this zirconia stuff in the first place. So they have components that get very hot, covered by a material that prevents the heat from getting out :D. The solution: An aluminum frame that serves both as the chassis and the outer border. All components are attached to this chassis, which allows the heat to escape out through the sides.

That's why it gets a bit corny when people refer to this as a fake, knock-off or test bed, or that they will change the design radically: A) This thing is very designed and engineered, way beyond what any prototype or knock-off would be, and B) the design was dictated by the choice of zirconia, which necessitated the aluminum body that goes all the way out to the borders. They can't change that structure -- the phone would effing melt.
 
Personally, I think this isn't the exact form factor -- This whole thing reminds me of when the original iphone was being created and the guts of the thing were brought to the software developers in a box with just the wires that they needed sticking out to connect to their computer/SDK. Just enough to get things done but not enough information to really understand what they were working with.

Obviously times have laxed quite a bit, but the job that needed to be done (testing in the wild), I believe, was conducted with a phone that was just enough to get the job done. I'm not saying this phone isn't similar, but I think we'll see quite a bit more fit and finish. The metal will certainly be polished to a high sheen like the currently frame that's sported on every iPhone in creation. I think the black back and front sandwiching this high polished silver will look amazing. The dull look now is not what we'll see in June.

Umm... it's aluminum. You know, the dull looking metal that's used as the main body material on...

Mac Pro

<snip of about 15 Apple products>

Apple Wireless Keyboard

Or, to put it simpler, every current hardware product from Apple except Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme, MacBook and iPhone 3GS.

The metal you're referring to is the chrome bezel on previous iPhone models. Chrome has been phased out of Apple's product line on everything except the soon-to-be-retired iPhone 3G/3GS; they used to have it on the back of iPods up until 2005 which is probably why they put it on iPhones.

The only product left still sporting the polished metal look after the new iPhone has been released will be the iPod Touch, but I imagine they'll squash that anomaly like a roach by releasing a new model in time for the next holiday seasons.

You don't have to be a dick about it.

Personally, I don't think that the metal IS anodized aluminum, it's very dull looking and it leaves fingerprints. I'm typing this on a Macbook Pro and I can't leave fingerprints on this thing. It stays very clean and bright looking (not shiny bright like the back of an iPod touch, but lighter.) the AL Apple uses also creates this sheen of billions, trillions of little points over the surface, even when it gets a little dirty, these little points are very visible.

The metal of this found phone seems like a cheaper metal -- I simply think YOU'RE wrong on this. Whether they leave the shiny chrome or make it anodized AL, we won't know until it comes out, but this looks too dull to be AL.

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You don't have to be a dick about it.

Personally, I don't think that the metal IS anodized aluminum, it's very dull looking and it leaves fingerprints...The metal of this found phone seems like a cheaper metal -- I simply think YOU'RE wrong on this. Whether they leave the shiny chrome or make it anodized AL, we won't know until it comes out, but this looks too dull to be AL.

(Pictures attached: Gizmodo Pic and Apple PR Pic.)

I have to disagree with you there. With Photoshop and enough time, I could make a freshly laid turd look as polished as that MBP.

The live shot of the phone isn't lit properly, isn't being shot on a pro-level cammy (probably), etc etc etc...there are other ways to say it, but the end result is always the same: the metal on the phone is clearly anodized aluminum.

I have 2 MBPs and an Aluminum Keyboard at home and at work; they both attract fingerprints and dirt like a mofo. I'm surprised yours doesn't.
 
Wow. I find your comment rather insulting. Not to mention quite ignorant. And I say this as major stock holder and former CEO of 6 companies.

Are you even an American? Do you have family or friends who struggle to pay their bills [in time]? I personally don't, but I see them around places from time to time.

I won't say something like: "You appear to have lost faith in your fellow Americans, who need companies like Apple to set a new path into the future." but wouldn't it be nice – for a change – when people can dream about something... without being called names and tagged for nothing?

Yes. We all know that labor in China is cheap, but so is ethics and moral values when it comes to money.

Please, think before you write childish and stupid things. You should know that China makes the best stuff in the world for the cheapest price, that's why mostly everything is made in China. If it were made in America, it would be more expensive. And no one said it would be better, since China is specialised in electronics and they have the best and most effective methods of manufacturing such products. Every Apple product is assembled in China, and I don't think anyone has problems with their build quality in general. Even like this they're quite expensive, imagine if they were made in America!
 
Yes. We all know that labor in China is cheap, but so is ethics and moral values when it comes to money.

Much unlike the ethical and moral monetary policy of American corporations, in particular our mine industry. Though there's also the solid record of our petrochemical sector and their intense environmental record of honesty. Don't forget lead and asbestos.

How did a thread about a phone on a computer forum turn into parade of the nationalists? :rolleyes:
 
Wow. I find your comment rather insulting. Not to mention quite ignorant. And I say this as major stock holder and former CEO of 6 companies.

Are you even an American? Do you have family or friends who struggle to pay their bills [in time]? I personally don't, but I see them around places from time to time.

I won't say something like: "You appear to have lost faith in your fellow Americans, who need companies like Apple to set a new path into the future." but wouldn't it be nice – for a change – when people can dream about something... without being called names and tagged for nothing?

Yes. We all know that labor in China is cheap, but so is ethics and moral values when it comes to money.

We live in a world where labor is purchased like any other commodity. Corporations buy it where it is cheapest. Or specifically where it is most cost effective to do so.

The clock is not going to be turned back on this new world.

The legacy of Chinese communism means the current wage for an individual in China is dramatically lower than in more affluent countries. But unlike Africa, China has a reliable industrial infrastructure.

So when trade barriers to China were lowered, companies have flooded in to take advantage of the lower labour costs. This was inevitable.
It is also fair to say "can-do" attitude of Chinese workers, eager to boost their standard-of-living also helps. They want a better life. And who can blame them for wanting it?

What is happening now is the Chinese economy is growing. The standard of living there is increasing rapidly and the dramatic difference in labour costs there and elsewhere is decreasing.

It really won't be too long before the labour costs in Little Rock are in-line with the labour costs in Shanghai.

One other thing to note. The labour costs are a relatively insignificant part of the business formula. Labour is small potatoes.

Running shoes cost $2 in parts. $2 in labor. But are sold for $100!
The manufacture is irrelevant. What matters is this magical marketing alchemy.

This alchemy is not performed in China, but by advertising people in Madison Avenue, LA and Soho London.

In the case of Apple. It's a similar story. While the part-assembly is done overseas. It's the magical nature of Apple's engineering which allows $200 of parts to be sold for $600.


C.
 
Much unlike the ethical and moral monetary policy of American corporations, in particular our mine industry. Though there's also the solid record of our petrochemical sector and their intense environmental record of honesty. Don't forget lead and asbestos.

How did a thread about a phone on a computer forum turn into parade of the nationalists? :rolleyes:
Yeah I know. A shame isn't it; My father worked in the petrochemical industry, with asbestos for many years... without knowing anything. He died in 2003.

And enough about nationalists or this thread will derail like Amtrak did in my backyard :)
 
Look allot like the edge of my Mac Book Pro

Look allot like the edge of my Mac Book Pro
 

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Wouldn't it be pretty funny if the guy who lost this, announced it at the WWDC?

something like

"Oh that's where my iPhone went":rolleyes:
 
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