So jealous of the EU. Hopefully more countries force Apple to use this.
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These Are the Countries Where You Can Install Apps Outside of the iOS App Store
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But you can have an iCloud Account registered in the US (for example) while your AppleID used for the store (at the same time) is one from a EU country
Afaik, there is a special daemon (countryd) that is used to determine your country for the purpose of region locking features. This daemon uses multiple metrics iirc, so having only an EU Apple ID, EU iCloud, EU App Store region, EU phone region, EU SIM, EU location, EU IP, or EU payment method etc alone may not be enough to enable the feature.
For those who ask about how it will be determined. The Eurozone Apple ID will determine if you will get the open App Store or not.
It depends on the DOJ anti trust suit against Apple though which could happen as soon as March. There’s also the OAMA that will be reintroduced at some point (at least that’s what they’re saying). But hey anything can happen who knows.
Q. If YOU decide to only download apps from the AppStore how might your phone be compromised? Realistically I mean - no hyperbole or conspiracies pls.
With the greatest of respect you seem to fundamentally misunderstand web development, and web browsers.
Web sites are built upon a set of standards that are agreed by members of W3C, read about it here https://www.w3.org/standards/
Browsers then adopt these standards so as to be compatible. Apple has come under criticism for being very slow to implement new standards within webkit, thus holding the web back as web developers nearly always want to ensure their sites are compatible with the widest user base possible. Read about that here https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/22/safari_risks_becoming_the_new_ie/
So now if Safari doesn’t support a web standard iPhone users in the EU will have the option to download another browser that does - that’s much better for user choice, and brings iPhone on par with Android.
TBF Apple has got a bit better at implementing new standards recently, although they’re still behind. Now they’ll have competition they’ll have more impetus to keep up with the adoption of standards implemented in Chrome etc, this is how markets should work and is a good thing.
That’s a motion from the Tessin SP. If my Hamster would demand it, it would have the same effect.
I do like what apple provides, I just prefer it now they are playing more fair with developers.
It actually baffles me when people oppose the iPhone beginning to work in the way the mac has done for years.
It makes very little difference to you, you’ll just have to install from a different source. It’s the most minor inconvenience in exchange for huge benefits elsewhere. Sorry it bothers you, but that’s life. You’ll be fine.
Also developers work for users, not against them. They try to build the most useful things they can so that people want to get them. These changes free developers from several constraints, and the result will better apps for users and more choice. It’s good news.
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eh? no need to 'lets say' because it isnt the only smartphone.... whats your point?
Well the reality is that this is happening, so you have two options, accept it or take your own advice and stick it to Apple and move to android. Choose one, move on.
So many people reacting like having an additional right forced them to install an alternative app store 🍿
I’m not sure this works out the way you describe. The issue is often that the implementation of a new standard might not be secure. Something like webGL can potentially allow low level access to a users machine.
For Apple the issue is simple: they support the device for the customer. So it’s in their interest to slow down the rollout of some web standards to make sure that any change doesn’t adversely affect their users.
For Google, they don’t care as much frankly. They have a whole company based on the “fail fast” model and routinely deprecate hardware or even whole business units/projects. Yes you get the latest features from Blink but do you get the best security?
On top of that, the biggest issue is a specific browser becoming the “Trojan horse OS”. If major products (gmail, fb, IG etc) only work properly on the very latest browser standards introduced by Blink and googles own security standards then these products won’t work on safari. You will then get people having to use chrome for the most popular products which, in apples mind is in opposition to their security focused approach for safari.
This is the battle really. On top of the security issues chrome is also notoriously power hungry which again will negatively effects device battery life. Something that Apple feel they will end up dealing with in support calls.
They’ve been here before with adobe flash etc. this is all history repeating itself and anyone who’s been in computing world for the last 30+ years knows where we are going to end up.
If someone sets up an AppStore that distributes a rogue app that the user allows access to contacts etc. and that app harvests contacts and tries to distribute itself (malware).
Can Apple unsign that app if it’s not on their App Store? Can they stop other users who received this email from installing the app?
Will I have to run a third party virus scanner to alert me of bad software just like on my pc?
When I restore my phone will all my software be restored? Even 3rd party App Store apps?
Will third party App Store apps have access to hidden api’s without Apple being able to revoke them?
The iPhone has the most valuable users in the world with all their personal data on their devices. I fear this change will get every hacker on earth focused on this device now. It’s going to get interesting in the EU. At least they will be guinea pigs for this model.
Can Apple unsign that app if it’s not on their App Store? Can they stop other users who received this email from installing the app?
Will I have to run a third party virus scanner to alert me of bad software just like on my pc?
When I restore my phone will all my software be restored? Even 3rd party App Store apps?
Will third party App Store apps have access to hidden api’s without Apple being able to revoke them?
The iPhone has the most valuable users in the world with all their personal data on their devices. I fear this change will get every hacker on earth focused on this device now. It’s going to get interesting in the EU. At least they will be guinea pigs for this model.
I suspect that Apple allowing game streaming apps is due to DMA forcing Apple's hand to figure out how to limit the 'temptation' for companies to publish outside the wall garden.
Anyhow, IMO, the biggest win is enabling NFC for the EU market. I hope that this will make local payment apps easier to use —particularly peer-to-peer payments.
Anyhow, IMO, the biggest win is enabling NFC for the EU market. I hope that this will make local payment apps easier to use —particularly peer-to-peer payments.
Too bad Apple caved to these crazy EU demands. I would have given up doing legal business in the EU and switched to US currency (or come up with some other solution). Luckily for EU and consumers, this will remain not law in the US so developers will continue to develop for the App Store. I do not know why any users on here are supporting this as this is terrible for the consumer. You guys have to realize this will bring a Windows type gaming experience to iOS. On windows you have to install a different gaming store for each vendor selling games. So you have to install Steam, Blizzard, Epic Store, EA Store and the list goes on for whatever game you want to install. You have to figure out which store to install depending on which game you want. Every time you boot up windows, each of these stores have to run in the background, start up, and update. Each store requires you to have a different ID. Some games on some stores have multiple IDs, one for the store, another for the game (Some versions of Call of Duty). Some games are on different stores depending on the version of the game (Call of Duty). Gaming on Windows is awful and a royal pain. This is what you get with this decision. Prices for the games will be the same or more, so there will be no benefit to the user. Plus likely some apps if you use your phone for work, will check to see if you have a non Apple Store installed and will not work until you uninstall that store. We saw that with Cydia if you jailbroke your phone. Many apps looked for Cydia and disabled themselves As they were untrusted stores which a hacker could install something insecure because it wasn’t checked by Apple. You'll likely see this as any non Apple Store will be insecure. So you won’t be able to install any of those games on a device you use for work or maybe even use Regular apps on. There is not a single good thing here for the consumer, this only helps these companies make more profit by skirting Apples reasonable competitive cost for running these games on Apple devices.
The even more crazy EU demand is, "Don't sell into our market - stick to the US".
I live in Northern Ireland. Part of UK and supposed to be in EU single market. Also I am both Irish and British citizen by birth (born on island of Ireland before 2005 so automatically Irish with full citizenship rights including full EU citizenship). I have UK and Irish (also EU by definition) passports with full unrestricted travel and residence in EU and also in UK. I wonder how Apple ID will define me and others like me? If I am denied access to alternative app stores I wonder is this in breach of EU guidance as this is supposed to apply to all EU citizens. For me it is arbitrary as I actually value the more controlled, closed and monitored AppStore, payment and others but I am thinking hypothetically or for others.
No it's not, it's from the Social Democratic Group, which is the second largest group in the Swiss Parliament.
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