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Not all of us can afford new Macs though.

But this is a STEAL!
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Of everything in your bank account, that is...
 
Being a 2017 iMac user my only thought is that I don't see what Sonoma OS offers that my iMac can't do?
But yes, I do want a Mac Studio, but kinda wish a 27" M2 Max with 64 gigs of ram and 2 TB HD was offered.
I have a 2017 iMac as well but also a 2020 M1 MacBook Pro so I'm good for this Macos update at least.

I'm of the opinion that while my iMac is still viable, I have no reason (or the financial means!) to upgrade anyway.
 
Been saying this would come eventually. Sure there are some things you can't get on Intel Macs because of ARM but some could be given to Intel Macs. They want to have a better version of macOS that you can have, only if you upgrade.
 
That's exactly it. It's a money grab from Cook (what else is new) pure and simple designed solely to upsell the customer. Apple's greed reaches new lows
Apple's been getting the finger from me since 2012. Once they decided to solder components in their motherboards, I quit buying their laptops. They've gotten another finger from me for over 10 years while I've been enjoying my Hackintoshes (currently on an Intel 12700k hackintosh that cost a fraction of what Apple would charge for similar performance.... and no gaming capabilities).

This company is addicted to greed. I don't understand how Apple doesn't get wrecked with criticism.
 
That's fine. Apple cemented the notion yesterday that it's time to move on...I wouldn't even be surprised if next year's MacOS was not even Intel compatible.
Given that Apple was still selling 2018 intel Mac mini not that long ago this year and just last week 2019 Mac pros. They likely have to commit to few more years support for this intel Macs still.

But yes ever since initial ARM platform support via Big Safari we been seeing additional features that require AS platforms to work. The writing is on the wall for sure, as now the transition is complete and there is already a fair amount of windows compatibility afforded via VM or Parallels for ARM Mac Users. Perhaps another 2 years in the future might be the time where MacOS might drop intel Macs? Say by WWDC 2025 maybe, then it's just browser/security updates for intel Mac running some MacOS.
 
How'd it feel jumping into a decade's worth of tech advancements?
We’ve only had it a couple of weeks, but wow. Things we got used to waiting for, startup, shutdown, loading software, loading larger documents, just happen NOW. Going from 8 to 16GB of RAM helps a lot. Being able to run more than one process at a time is nice. (I mean theoretically we could, but in reality when it’s struggling to run a video, it’s not a good idea to also try and have it do something else too.) Plus we went from the 13” to the 14” screen. It doesn’t sound like much, but it it makes a very noticeable difference.
 
Apple's been getting the finger from me since 2012. Once they decided to solder components in their motherboards, I quit buying their laptops. They've gotten another finger from me for over 10 years while I've been enjoying my Hackintoshes (currently on an Intel 12700k hackintosh that cost a fraction of what Apple would charge for similar performance.... and no gaming capabilities).

This company is addicted to greed. I don't understand how Apple doesn't get wrecked with criticism.
Because absolutely other company solders CPUs to the motherboard 👀😂
 
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Far more important to me is a feature available on my Intel mini that is not available on Apple Silicon: Windows emulation. Not giving that up just yet so I can say “Siri” instead of “Hey, Siri.”
 
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RAM and SSDs being soldered is a pain but realistically very few people upgraded them in laptops anyway I reckon. Just buy the most you can afford up front and enjoy the best laptops in the world for 7-10 years then repeat.
My 13-yo MBP (pre-keyboard debacle, pre-touch bar) retail config quad core i7 is still going strong.
 
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I see one feature: CPU/GPU optimizations where offloading is dynamic. The rest are gimmicks.

I'm not wasting my M2 Pro Mini on these features. I hope they are user configurable so I can turn them off.
 
Now that all Macs are Silicon, those of us with any Intel Macs face numbered days even if there was still an Intel Mac for sale only 1 day ago.Rosetta 2 is almost certainly on the same clock. See Rosetta 1 deprecation as a guide.
Everything is numbered. If one uses the Rosetta 1 timeline:

Last PowerPC was sold by Apple in December of 2006 (according to this Wikipedia article). OTOH, Rosetta 1 support was maintained until 2011. That's a gargantuan amount of time. Did you actually look up the numbers before you took the trouble to warn us?
The many apps still needing to "throw that one switch and recompile for silicon" :rolleyes: had better get with it.
Really? Based on the Rosetta 1/PowerPC history, they've got about 4.5 years. Did you look up the timeline?

Suggestion: anything mission critical means keeping an "old Mac" running an old macOS around. I still have a Snow Leopard Mac for a few key things that never "threw the switch."
Really? What specific apps do you actually use from that age?
 
I'm more surprised that Intel Macs are getting iPhone widget support.
 
I'm curious why they didn't show any Game Mode benchmarks using some of the latest games that have come out (Resident Evil Village, No Man's Sky). My guess is that it doesn't make much of a difference in most cases.

Game Mode is also something that is unlikely to use the Neural Engine... for it to not be available on Intel Macs is weird. All the OS is doing is prioritizing CPU and GPU threads and upping the Bluetooth sample rate.
Source? Just because that’s the layman’s explanation given at the Keynote does not mean that’s the only thing at play. In fact there’s probably a whole session on optimizing for Game Mode that will tell you what’s actually going on.
 
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