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That's a pretty funny one. I'm guessing the Hey Siri is embedded in a chip somewhere and it would be more work than its worth changing it.

That's an interesting view. I too am surprised the "Siri" is not available on Intel and only "Hey Siri". Odd. Maybe "Siri" requires mind-reading capabilities and the Intel chip doesn't have it. LOL LOL.
 
When I buy a Mac for the price of a decent used car, I do so with the intention to use it for 5-6 years. This whole "the thing you bought last year is obsolete because the new one came out" is what drives e-waste and pollution, and incentivizes companies to make their products less repairable (since you want to buy a new one anyway). If customers expect the product to last, then companies eventually have to build them to last.
 
Isn't it funny that the latest macOS features are 2006 Stage Manager and 2004 Widgets? Soon they will recover iTunes and iSync, which I used with the Sony Ericsson T610, but for syncing Vision.
 
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Isn't this like everything? This release when they talk about new wallpapers being a thing to promote means there's nothing else worth talking about. It's like when they released Windows 98 and they were rabbiting on about 4K boundary nonsense being a promoted feature. I mean, hello?
 
That's exactly it. It's a money grab from Cook (what else is new) pure and simple designed solely to upsell the customer. Apple's greed reaches new lows
Apple always hated how the third party market sold cheap storage and cheap RAM in the Intel days so they tried to cut that off as best as they could. Apple Silicon is a godsend to Apple as all those dollars now go to Apple's bottom line as they now finally keep the third party market out.
 
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pretty good outcome I feel as an Intel Mac owner. Nothing too major I feel is being missed. I thought there’d be a lot more gaps, or more significant ones, following some of the missed capabilities last year such as some missing features in the Maps app.
 
Far more important to me is a feature available on my Intel mini that is not available on Apple Silicon: Windows emulation. Not giving that up just yet so I can say “Siri” instead of “Hey, Siri.”
In saying that does anybody say "Siri" or even "Hey Siri"? I'm just saying that I'm not saying it.
 
Not now. But those who plan their purchases MIGHT be looking at as little as one more year from this Fall... obviously with certain new features not available.

Sonoma could be the LAST version with Intel Mac support... or maybe there would be one more with additional new features not included to continue the wean.

Sonoma requires basically 2018 Macs. Figure next year's release will bump to 2019, and then the 2025 release will be M1 only. That means that folks who want guaranteed OS support and complete security fixes have until sometime in late 2025 or early 2026 before they'll need to be on a M1 machine (Apple only guarantees fixes for the current OS). Practically speaking though, the do backport most fixes, so it's 2026 or 2027 for the true end-of-intel life. Open question if they'll do 'extended support' for the last intel release, but I suspect not.

I expect the M1 machines to have much longer support though. At least so far, the innovation is in the scale of the SOC, not features, so they should last longer.
 
As a 2018 intel mac mini owner, I’m happy with the gap. That said, Ventura sure did slow down my machine, I actually have to wait for stuff sometimes. I’m one of those who hangs on to my computer for at least 5 years so.. doh, this December I might start scoping stuff out. Probably 2024 or 2025.
 
It begins...

Now that all Macs are Silicon, those of us with any Intel Macs face numbered days even if there was still an Intel Mac for sale only 1 day ago.

Rosetta 2 is almost certainly on the same clock. See Rosetta 1 deprecation as a guide.

The many apps still needing to "throw that one switch and recompile for silicon" :rolleyes: had better get with it. I presume it is a very heavy switch... as it seemed to be the last time we went through this (and a number of apps- including prominent ones did not seem to be able to lift that switch before Rosetta 1 ended).

Suggestion: anything mission critical means keeping an "old Mac" running an old macOS around. I still have a Snow Leopard Mac for a few key things that never "threw the switch."

The single most important program I need for work is the one and only Intel app still running on my Mac. They’ve been “considering their options concerning Apple Silicon” for two years now.
 
I thought it will be worse; still with an intel 16" MBP than excluding the heat I feel sometimes coming from it, it's perfectly fine for what I do. Do I want an m2 max? Absolutely but haven't been able to justify it yet.
Yep. For all I do my 2019 16" MacBook Pro is more then sufficient and I don't really plan to replace it anytime soon as I enjoy how thin it is compared to the new 16" MBP. I enjoy the screen size too but was waiting for the 15" MBA. Even though it would "blow" my MBP out of the water I was very underwhelmed with it from what I saw yesterday. Price is nice though but I am going to keep rocking this intel for a bit longer. 14" pro isn't off the table but again don't really have a reason to replace yet.
 
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The restriction is fresh 💰💰💰 for Apple.

The hackers will find a way to make some deprecated Macs upgrade mostly in full (which obviously illustrates Apple could do it too). The hackers motivation is to keep their Macs up to date. Apple has a very different motivation. 💴💶💷💵

Having been there for PowerPC to Intel, the clock is ticking fast now. It won't be long until Intel support is jettisoned from macOS which means the hackers won't have foundational stuff to "fix"/evolve. Rosetta 2 is now also on the clock too... just as Rosetta 1 back in the day.
I as well was there from PowerPC to Intel but I mean come on  you literally sold a 5 thousand dollar plus intel machine till yesterday.
eMac/Lamp iMac/15" powerbook ..
 
The single most important program I need for work is the one and only Intel app still running on my Mac. They’ve been “considering their options concerning Apple Silicon” for two years now.

Again, IMO, there's only one real choice here: old fashioned bootcamp (get a PC (too)).

Windows ARM has potential to cover some bases. Virtual Windows "as a service" options exist for lite users willing to pay per use and/or subscribe. But the practical option that really doesn't cost much money is a dedicated Windows PC. I bought my first one in about 15-16 years and am pleasantly surprised. Those of us long accustomed to Apple pricing (for "another record quarter of revenue & profit") may have forgotten that the ability to shop around for RAM and SSD means competitor driven (LOW) prices... and the PC industry is also insanely competitive such that there's probably nobody there with Apple's big fat margin.

So take a budget for about HALF of a "loaded Mac" and go shopping. That budget will buy a LOT of PC.

The big question now for the practical computer buyer who wants both is what combo: Mac desktop + Windows laptop or vice versa, 2 laptops, 2 desktops. And if so, big tip from me is to choose a monitor with multiple inputs so that both can easily share the same screen, keyboard and mouse... which is quite doable.

For those where money is tighter, remember that the old Intel Mac that you might leave behind for Silicon can easily become a pretty up-to-date PC running at least Windows 10. So one could embrace Silicon as a next computer and convert the old Mac to being the Windows PC to cover that base too. When it conks, buy a new PC then.
 
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I actually would have some hope that these features would make their way to Intel too by fall. Apple also said last year that Live Text in Ventura would be Apple Silicon-exclusive at first but after the first or second update support was brought to Intel too, and it works perfectly well.
 
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