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But you can already do that with the existing Mac mini configuration. It is a useful approach but it is not a new feature for this updated mini Mac mini.
Can you get such mounts?
I know you can for the Apple TV, but not seen one for the much larger and heavier Mac mini.

Being smaller and lighter would make this far more feasible and attractive an option.
 
Can you get such mounts?
I know you can for the Apple TV, but not seen one for the much larger and heavier Mac mini.

Being smaller and lighter would make this far more feasible and attractive an option.
Here is one, there are several others available on Amazon and other similar sites

 


It's almost September, but Apple still has multiple new product launches planned for 2024. New iPhone 16 models and Apple Watches are coming in September, and we're also going to get at least three Mac updates with M4 chips this year, according to rumors.

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Here's what's on the horizon.

MacBook Pro

Apple plans to refresh both the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models, adding M4 chips. The MacBook Pro lineup was last updated in October 2023, so the machines are due for a yearly refresh.

Apple did away with the 13-inch MacBook Pro last year, so there's now an entry-level 14-inch model, and that's what's going to get the standard M4 chip that was used in the iPad Pro.

Middle tier and higher-end 14-inch models will get the M4 Pro and M4 Max chips, as will the 16-inch models. The M4 chips are built on the 3-nanometer process, but compared to the M3 chips, they have improved performance, efficiency, and AI capabilities. Apple introduced a new, more powerful Neural Engine.

There are no design updates expected for the MacBook Pro models this year, with Apple focusing on internal improvements. Specifically, the M4 chip will be the star of the upgrade, and Apple is aiming to get its entire Mac lineup on the same M4 chip series across 2024 and 2025.

Mac mini

Unlike the MacBook Pro, Apple does have a design refresh planned for the Mac mini. According to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, the Mac mini will be Apple's smallest computer to date, even smaller than the prior-generation version.

It is expected to be around the size of the Apple TV, though it will be thicker than the Apple TV and the current Mac mini, which is 1.4 inches tall. The machine will continue to be made from aluminum, just in an overall smaller package.

Apple has tested Mac mini models that have at least three USB-C ports, along with an HDMI port and a power cable.

Apple plans to use the M4 and M4 Pro chips for the Mac mini models, and since these never got an M3 update, they'll go from M2 to M4 and will see some notable performance improvements.

iMac

The 24-inch iMac is also expected to see an update this year, going from the M3 chip to the M4 chip. Design changes are not rumored for the iMac, so we can expect to see the same 24-inch display with multiple color options.

Apple is still exploring a version of the iMac with a larger ~30-inch display, but an iMac with a bigger display is not expected in 2024, and it's not clear if it will come in 2025, either.

Possible Launch Timeline

Apple does not typically unveil Macs at its September events, which focus on the iPhone and the Apple Watch. We're expecting Apple to hold an event around September 10 to unveil new iPhone 16 models, but Macs will likely come later in the year.

When Apple has Macs to unveil around fall, it often introduces the machines in October or November. Last year, for example, Apple held a Mac-centric event in October to refresh the MacBook Pro and iMac. October/November events aren't as consistent as iPhone events, so nailing down a target date is tougher. Apple has held second fall events on these dates in the past:
  • October 30, 2023 - Scary Fast event with MacBook Pro and iMac.
  • October 18, 2021 - Unleashed event with new MacBook Pro models and AirPods 3.
  • November 10, 2020 - One More Thing event with M1 MacBook Air, Mac mini, and MacBook Pro.
  • October 30, 2018 - Apple refreshed the MacBook Air, Mac mini, and iPad Pro.
  • October 27, 2016 - Apple unveiled a new MacBook Pro and Apple TV app.
Apple could also skip an event and unveil the new Macs with a press release, though the small event we got last year for the M3 MacBook Pro and iMac models could be repeated in 2024.

Macs Coming in 2025

While the MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac mini are expected to get the M4 chip before the end of the year, M4 updates for the MacBook Air, Mac Studio, and Mac Pro won't be happening until 2025.

Article Link: These New Macs Are Coming in 2024
I'd be tempted to go for the Mac Mini if I could get a 24" Apple stand-alone monitor with it. I had the iMac 27". I'd prefer to separate the monitor from the computer for space needs and convenience of handling.
 
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If the Mac mini is redesigned, I wonder what important feature they’ll leave out, to have something to add for version 2. Cuz they often do that with new designs. My 2020 M1 Mac mini still is OK but I would like to have more ports.

I’ll probably buy a MacBook Air in 2025 though, during the Back-To-School sale, to replace my wife’s 2017 MacBook Air, purchased used for uber cheap back in 2021.


Agreed. 12 GB base is what I expect. However, I think that is sufficient. My wife is OK with 8 GB now, so 12 GB for the next 5 years will be fine for her.
I have a 2023 Mac mini and it's pretty fast it has an HDMI, 4 USB-C ports and 2 USB ports. Not excited about this redesign though and the fact it's the size of an Apple TV and the height of the Mac Studio. Paying all this money for these machines to constantly get frequent chip updates which the whole purpose for them doing this was to get away from being forced to make new devices with GPU and Intel chips. They need to put either 12 or 16GB of unified memory and get rid of these 8GB options
 
I have a 2023 Mac mini and it's pretty fast it has an HDMI, 4 USB-C ports and 2 USB ports. Not excited about this redesign though and the fact it's the size of an Apple TV and the height of the Mac Studio. Paying all this money for these machines to constantly get frequent chip updates which the whole purpose for them doing this was to get away from being forced to make new devices with GPU and Intel chips. They need to put either 12 or 16GB of unified memory and get rid of these 8GB options
I can imagine, that the updated Mac mini will have 2 or 3 USB-C ports, one of these will be occupied by the external power cable (maybe using a power brick or even a standard 65 W USB charger?). Hope, that the HDMI stays intact.

But this is Apple, you newer know. In the worst case, it will have almost no outputs/inputs.
 
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I do hope they don't spoil it, but it feels like only about 5% of people are expecting that outcome. I'd rate the chances of it not being spoilt at about 1/10.
 
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Here is one, there are several others available on Amazon and other similar sites


See what I mean? Looks unwieldy.
A smaller Mac mini would look much better (and look less likely to topple everything!)

I guess we’ll find out in due course.
 
We're already heading for M4 whilst Apple has yet to improve appalling issues such as:

  1. Audio Skipping when doing any light work whilst listening to music or youtube (MBPs)
  2. Animation frame drops, on minimizing, scrolling, etc. whilst Windows 11 is way snappier and feels buttery smooth at 120hz+
  3. Tons of apps still take ages to open sometimes, Windows app launch times are night and day
  4. Actual UI scaling like Windows does? So I don't have to rely on 3rd party apps to enable hidpi so my external monitors don't look like absolute garbage or UI so large it takes up 60% of the screen.
I guess normies don't care and will still gladly pay 3k+.
 
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We're already heading for M4 whilst Apple has yet to improve appalling issues such as:

  1. Audio Skipping when doing any light work whilst listening to music or youtube (MBPs)
  2. Animation frame drops, on minimizing, scrolling, etc. whilst Windows 11 is way snappier and feels buttery smooth at 120hz+
  3. Tons of apps still take ages to open sometimes, Windows app launch times are night and day
  4. Actual UI scaling like Windows does? So I don't have to rely on 3rd party apps to enable hidpi so my external monitors don't look like absolute garbage or UI so large it takes up 60% of the screen.
I guess normies don't care and will still gladly pay 3k+.
Some good points. Could you elaborate on the audio skipping issue, please? I rarely listen to music on my work MacBook Pro, or watch YouTube, but I've not noticed any issues when I have done.
 
core i7 mini user here.
gonna miss the wider footprint.
currently have my external hdd sitting on top.
external hdd sitting on top of new footprint would look bad
aapl should come out with external hdd the shape of new footprint
 
core i7 mini user here.
gonna miss the wider footprint.
currently have my external hdd sitting on top.
external hdd sitting on top of new footprint would look bad
aapl should come out with external hdd the shape of new footprint
But they want you to pay their insane sums for upgrading the internal storage, they don't want you buying regular priced storage..
 
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I do hope they don't spoil it, but it feels like only about 5% of people are expecting that outcome. I'd rate the chances of it not being spoilt at about 1/10.
It's more just that it isn't worth the bother to try to counter the tide of negative expectations, when nobody really knows and the actual product will speak for itself soon enough.
 
It's more just that it isn't worth the bother to try to counter the tide of negative expectations, when nobody really knows and the actual product will speak for itself soon enough.
Go on then, what's your opinion? What are the chances this doesn't have fewer ports and poorer cooling? And are we likely to get any vaguely significant gains, SoC aside?
 
Go on then, what's your opinion? What are the chances this doesn't have fewer ports and poorer cooling? And are we likely to get any vaguely significant gains, SoC aside?
I think if it still has the M4 Pro as an option, then that box will be comparable to the M4 Pro MacBook Pro. Thermals will not be an issue. It will have active cooling.

I think power delivery is an unknown and there’s little point in trying to imagine the redesign without knowing that. I’m in favor of USB-C power delivery, but I’m not an engineer so I don’t know if 100W is enough. I do know that power efficiency is what their silicon is built for, and if anyone can do it, it’s Apple.

I don’t know what to think about the base M4 Mini. I hope that they maintain it as a budget option, parallel to the better iMac specs. I’d like to see them adopt a $100 initial upgrade for internal storage, like they do for the iPhone.

Note I disagree with your take on internal-storage profiteering, I think they want people to use cloud storage, that’s where the real money is. The amount of internal storage doesn’t change that equation.
 
I think if it still has the M4 Pro as an option, then that box will be comparable to the M4 Pro MacBook Pro. Thermals will not be an issue. It will have active cooling.

I think power delivery is an unknown and there’s little point in trying to imagine the redesign without knowing that. I’m in favor of USB-C power delivery, but I’m not an engineer so I don’t know if 100W is enough. I do know that power efficiency is what their silicon is built for, and if anyone can do it, it’s Apple.

I don’t know what to think about the base M4 Mini. I hope that they maintain it as a budget option, parallel to the better iMac specs. I’d like to see them adopt a $100 initial upgrade for internal storage, like they do for the iPhone.

Note I disagree with your take on internal-storage profiteering, I think they want people to use cloud storage, that’s where the real money is. The amount of internal storage doesn’t change that equation.
Charging something like a 10,000% upcharge on storage is a nice gain for Apple, you can't deny? It takes quite a few months to trump that pure profit with cloud storage subscription charges.

So a potential USB-C power supply is the only gain we'll see, you suspect? What advantage is that for the everyman?
 
core i7 mini user here.
gonna miss the wider footprint.
currently have my external hdd sitting on top.
external hdd sitting on top of new footprint would look bad
aapl should come out with external hdd the shape of new footprint
guarantee there will be decent third party options, sure satechi will release a new version of their current hub/drive/etc for ex
 
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Mbp users are getting M4 before MS gets M3…
I expect the Mac Studio to skip M3. The Studio's niche is 'pro and demanding home user,' but Apple doesn't seem to want to update it yearly. When they put out a new version, they may want that to last 2 years (hopefully not 3).

Which makes timing right now interesting. Thunderbolt 5 and Wifi 7 are out there, but not common yet. Both will probably be current for years. A Mac supposed to be top tier (aside from the extremely expensive Mac Pro) for the next 2 years ought to have those. But are they ready?

Another question is how long most Studio owners will keep their system. I hope to move to Apple Silicon in the next year or two, but as a home user not making money off my system, I want it to last many years (e.g.: 6+). A Studio with TB4 and Wifi 6e has less appeal.

The value proposition is interesting. When I spec out a Studio vs. 14" MacBook Pro, looks like with the latter it's around $1,000 (IIRC) premium to get M3Max over M2Max, 36 vs. 32-meg RAM, built-in display and portability, vs. hopefully the Studio having more internal space for air flow and maybe better chances at longer life? But the MacBook Pro offers the option for 'lesser' M3 processors, and the Studio just offers Max and Ultra.

People who want high power on a tight budget and don't value portability may want a Studio, but I wish Apple would give us a 2nd internal SSD slot easily filled DIY with a 3rd party SSD.
 
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Which makes timing right now interesting. Thunderbolt 5 and Wifi 7 are out there, but not common yet. Both will probably be current for years. A Mac supposed to be top tier (aside from the extremely expensive Mac Pro) for the next 2 years ought to have those. But are they ready?

TB5 / USB4v2 is an interesting question. It would be a bit surprising for the M4 Pro/Max/Ultra/Quadra to use a different thunderbolt controller than the base M4. Is there any evidence that the iPad Pros have a TB5 class controller in it? Still, either the M4 or the M5 really should get TB5, so maybe we'll see in the M4 Pro/Max/Ultra/Quadra next year? There's a TB5 laptop out there now.

Lots of users with M1 MacBooks are perfectly happy now, so I see no reason why M3 or M4 Macs wouldn't be perfectly usable for ~8 years. I'm on an M1 Pro MacBook Pro, and I would hope to use it for another 3+ years.

The idea of the Mac Studio or Mac Pro being updated annually sounds like a fairy tale to me.

The best bang for your buck Mac right now is the Refurbished base Mac Studio:

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$1699 for that machine is is still great, and hopefully it won't take long for the M4 models to get to the refurbished store at near that cost.
 
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Apple has tested Mac mini models that have at least three USB-C ports, along with an HDMI port and a power cable.
Maybe Apple will finally drop the pretense that the Mini needs a power cable because it is a desktop. It’s a psychological ploy to cater to old beliefs. The mini has the exact same chip as a MacBook, at the same clock speed, so can be powered the same as MacBook, with a battery/UPS.

Powered from USB C charger, or charged from the display over one thunderbolt cable, is far far superior 120V internal power supply, that adds more heat to the mini.
 
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