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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

    Votes: 305 22.9%
  • They're good but have a few niggles

    Votes: 879 65.9%
  • For everything I like there's something I don't like

    Votes: 106 8.0%
  • I prefer Microsoft PCs

    Votes: 43 3.2%

  • Total voters
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Whoever said the sleep light is not that bright on the front page must have thick eyelids. The sleep light on both of my powerbooks are so bright in my bedroom at night that i can see them with my eyes closed. I can't actually see them but I can see a little bit of pulsing light coming through my eyelids... It's very annoying.
 
The disembodied menu still drives me nuts. The menu belongs with the app window. This is bad UI design.

The dock is a horrible POS, as much as I use it. It holds shortcuts AND shows you running applications in the same place but there's a triangle under running apps. Makes the Windows Start menu look consistent. Then there's a separator which shows minimized windows and other shortcuts and the trash bin in the same place. WTF?

Allow me to move the min/max/cancel buttons to the right. They already made the concession with scroll bar arrows.

Mighty mouse, even though it has two buttons, you can't use both at the same time (e.g. Unreal I use right button to run and left button to shoot. Can't do both at the same time on Mighty Mouse).

I'll leave out my Leopard complaints (stacks, etc.).

It really pisses me off that I can't map a network drive (Samba) and have it reconnect at login. Needing automator to do that is not easy enough and it's very annoying.

The lack of a docking architecture. I connect 6 or 7 cables every morning and disconnect them every night.
It's getting old.

I find the glowing Apple garish.

I do wish it had a hard disk access light... It gets annoying not knowing what your Mac is doing.

The aluminum is freezing cold when I start it in the morning (my den gets cold) and gets pretty scorching hot in the summer when it's been on.

I wish I could turn off the system start "BONG".

I wish it could write to NTFS drives.

Make it easier to replace the hard disk.

Make a modular bay architecture so I can easily swap out my optical drive -- for Blu Ray, or 2nd battery, or 2nd hard drive (like Thinkpads).

The lack of early support for HD-DVD and/or Blu-Ray pisses me off. The super media machine that can't play HD movies ;) I was very angry when I bought an LG combo player and the Mac won't handle either format.

Re: ^ the lack of 3rd party alternatives. On the PC you have PowerDVD, WinDVD, etc. Here we have to wait (and wait and wait and wait) for Apple to bless something new.

Lasso a bunch of files in Finder and press delete; nothing happens.

Lack of backspace on the Macbook Pro (who thinks FN-DEL is a good idea?)

All kinds of crap gets in the speaker grilles and I can't get it out!

The power button has absolutely no rebound (did I press it or not?)

A LOT of webpages are not handled properly by Safari. If they want to foist their own browser on us, be more proactive about fixing broken pages -- put a "report me" button on the toolbar.

"Hibernation" support is in OSX but hidden and not enabled by default in the GUI. Hibernation = good for putting your Macbook in your laptop bag for the hour drive home without losing state or starting a fire.

Closing the app window with the red "x" doesn't kill the application. That drives me insane.

You can't right-drag-and-drop. In windows, this gives you a "move/copy" menu. On OSX, nada. You also can't right-drag-and-drop to create a program shortcut. No, you have to say "make alias" and then move it where you want. 2 steps instead of 1. To say nothing of the schizophrenic behavior in Leopard dragging shortcuts from the left half into a stack you created on the right (i.e. you can't; they poof).

I HAVE BEEN USING WINDOWS MICRO#$$%% I ALWAYS LOVED A MAC I HAVE 2 A MAC BOOK PRO FIRST GEN INTEL AND AN NEW IMAC 24 ALUMI 4 GB MEM! ITLETS YOU HAVE BOOT CAMP AND PARALLELS WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT IT SOMKES ! THATS IT THATS ALL BOTTOM LINE!! IF YOU DONT AGREE THATS YOUR OP BUT MY OP 20 YEARS MICRO NOW MAC MAC ON TOP SORRY!!

IT JUST WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):):):):):):):eek::apple::D:)


I hate that Mac CAPS LOCK keys seem to break so quickly

It's like walking into a Ferrari showroom and asking for automatic transmission. Furthermore, I wouldn't say I'm part of the fanbase. I use both Windows and Mac machines at work.

Walk into a Ferrari showroom and try to find a Ferrari with a clutch! They're falling out of favor for those quasi-manual clutchless paddle shifters. I drove an F430 and while the car is spectactular there's nothing like rowing through the gears with a manual.
 
1. The mighty mouse, I can't believe I'm still using this. It drives me crazy. The side buttons are annoying and only work when I squeeze the hell out of them, yet when I'm playing a game or doing something else it will randomly go off with a tiny swish from my finger.

Add to the fact it has 0 ergonomics, The scroll ball after less then 2 months of use is giving me problems.

Add to the fact there really isn't a true right click, and that causes a fair amount of misclicks for me. All this so Apple could not look like hypocrites and look like (and initially function) like a 1 button mouse. Well done, over complicating the mouse.

2. Safari on Leopard's ram use is a joke, maybe if it had some amazing features I couldn't get in Firefox or any other browser I'd be ok with it, but it doesn't offer much.

3. Gaming, I'm not a hardcore PC gamer, I play a couple of series and that's it, but the fact that Apple cares 0 about gaming really is a pain in the ass. First off the iMac obviously can't really be upgraded with a video card, so that's a big loss. Oh wait, the knockout blow... THEY SHIP MEDIOCRE CARDS TO BEGIN WITH!

I could see it being ok if they maybe shipped top of the line cards avaliable, so they'd still be pretty decent for the next 1-2.5 years, but no, we get crappy ones that are already outdated.

4. Why can't I just pull out a flash drive like I can in Windows? Instead I have to eject it. Obviously not that big of a deal, but it's a bit of a hassle.
 
Sounds to me like you should go to Windows.

Sounds to me like I've dared criticize your deity and must be excommunicated? It looks like I have more Apple gear than you do...

If you think any of my criticisms are undue, go ahead and challenge them; that's what we're here for, right?
 
light sensors

ok until using the web bright pages causes the screen to get brighter and dark pages dim the screen. I know you can change the settings not to do this but why have the sensors in the first place if its just going to drive you nuts?
 
Would you enjoy having 20 menus when you have 20 files open? I wouldn't.

If I have 20 files open, I want to keep my mouse movement local to the window I'm working in instead of having to retreat to (0,0) all the time. In addition, if you have 20 files open you already have 20 windows, 20 min/max/close buttons, 20 titlebars, 20 sets of toolbars, etc. Having the menu bar glued to the top of the screen makes as much sense as having the min/max/close buttons glued there too. And that would be ridiculous, agreed?

This is especially annoying when you work with multiple displays, as I do. If I am working on Firefox on the right half of my right display, why do I have to do the mouse equivalent of running around the block and go back to the left half of my left display to use the menu? It's dumb.

You have toolbars in the app window, where it's close and convenient to use. Toolbars are nothing more than shortcuts to menu entries. To be consistent, you should insist that they move application toolbars into the apple menu too.
 
Oh - the sodding light on my MB. ARHGHGHG

"I'm asleep - look, light fades up, light fades down, light fades up, light fades down, look at me fade, don't you like the fade, I'm an Apple laptop, love me, love my fading light"

It's the only laptop I've had with it's own frickin' ego.

It can be controlled via software (it'll turn off when you use front row), it should be an option to turn the damn thing off.

That's and the bright white apple logo on the lid. Have a logo - but don't light up like a baboons rear end - it means it's impossible to use the thing in dark room discreetly.

Stop blowing your own frickin' trumpet. 'Made on a Mac' all over iWeb. There might be an option to turn it off (there is in iDVD) but for the love of god get those damn logos off my dvd's and websites BY DEFAULT. I've just paid a FORTUNE for a Mac machine and you're using it to advertise yourself on everything I do. Maybe - if I'm really impressed - I might turn it on. Egomanic software and hardware. It's vulgar - like a lot of mac users. The blowing of one's own trumpet usually means you've got something to hide.

Doug
 
Closing the app window with the red "x" doesn't kill the application. That drives me insane.

And re-launching Photoshop all the time wouldn´t?

The disembodied menu still drives me nuts. The menu belongs with the app window. This is bad UI design.

Actually it´s better. Menus at the edges of the screen are proven faster than menus in document windows. It´s some sort of GUI design law.

You have toolbars in the app window, where it's close and convenient to use. Toolbars are nothing more than shortcuts to menu entries. To be consistent, you should insist that they move application toolbars into the apple menu too.

Well, most toolbars in apps I use are floaters, situating to the left, with palettes to the right, regardless of where I place the document window(s). So it´s very consistent I´d say.



You can't right-drag-and-drop. In windows, this gives you a "move/copy" menu. On OSX, nada. You also can't right-drag-and-drop to create a program shortcut. No, you have to say "make alias" and then move it where you want. 2 steps instead of 1. To say nothing of the schizophrenic behavior in Leopard dragging shortcuts from the left half into a stack you created on the right (i.e. you can't; they poof).

If you drag and drop, why would you want a menu? You know where you´re dragging from and where you´re going, no? To create alias, simply alt+command drag ;)

As for poofing finder shortcuts and dock items, I agree.
 
If I have 20 files open, I want to keep my mouse movement local to the window I'm working in instead of having to retreat to (0,0) all the time. In addition, if you have 20 files open you already have 20 windows, 20 min/max/close buttons, 20 titlebars, 20 sets of toolbars, etc. Having the menu bar glued to the top of the screen makes as much sense as having the min/max/close buttons glued there too. And that would be ridiculous, agreed?

This is especially annoying when you work with multiple displays, as I do. If I am working on Firefox on the right half of my right display, why do I have to do the mouse equivalent of running around the block and go back to the left half of my left display to use the menu? It's dumb.

You have toolbars in the app window, where it's close and convenient to use. Toolbars are nothing more than shortcuts to menu entries. To be consistent, you should insist that they move application toolbars into the apple menu too.

While I completely disagree with you, I respect the point of the thread. Carry on!
 
It really pisses me off that I can't map a network drive (Samba) and have it reconnect at login. Needing automator to do that is not easy enough and it's very annoying.

I can't test this at the moment but I believe you can map the volume then drag its desktop icon into Startup Items.
 
Sounds to me like I've dared criticize your deity and must be excommunicated? It looks like I have more Apple gear than you do...

If you think any of my criticisms are undue, go ahead and challenge them; that's what we're here for, right?

It simply seems that if you don't like so much about OS X and Macs, you should consider the alternative. I'd say that the GUI in particular plays a major factor in whether or not you prefer OS X over some other operating system, and I'm sure you'll agree that OS X is the reason to buy a Mac. I'll just assume that there is an even longer list of your criticisms of Windows/Linux and why you prefer OS X.

Sorry, I'll admit that it was a misplaced comment.

Edit: One thing I particularly agree with you about is your dislike of the glowing Apple logo; it seems too vain, but of course Apple won't get rid of it since it gives their computers more marketing flair.
 
lights up your bedroom?

- The sleep light cannot be disabled. I like not shutting down my Power Book but, in a dark bedroom, that light gets annoying.

DUDE - get a tiny piece of coloured tape and put it over the light, then take a sleeping pill.

My Mac is perfect.
 
Personally I think the gentle pulsing of the sleep light adds a bit of human factor to the computer. But in a dark room the brightness can be classified as visual snoring. How about an ambient light sensor for it?
 
That's a really subjective one. I hate the PC acceleration or lack thereof.

This is a thread about what bothers you about Macs, right? So, A) everything in here is going to be subjective; and B) why do you waste thread space not answering the topic of this thread with something that bothers you, instead trying to invalidate my opinion with yours, which is equally valid/invalid? This very kind of attitude is exactly the kind of objectionable fanboyism I mentioned in the first part of my post you quoted.
 
Mighty mouse, even though it has two buttons, you can't use both at the same time (e.g. Unreal I use right button to run and left button to shoot. Can't do both at the same time on Mighty Mouse).

Let me advise you to use W key for running forward and right mouse for weapon alt-fire, but I agree that MM sucks for gaming.

I do wish it had a hard disk access light... It gets annoying not knowing what your Mac is doing.

If you really want to know what your Mac us doing, open Activity Monitor.

The aluminum is freezing cold when I start it in the morning (my den gets cold) and gets pretty scorching hot in the summer when it's been on.

Are you complaining about the MBP material or what?

I wish I could turn off the system start "BONG".

Before shutting down your Mac (why do you shut it down anyway :rolleyes:
) mute the volume.

I wish it could write to NTFS drives.

And I wish Windows could write (or at least read) Mac-formatted drives.

Make it easier to replace the hard disk.

Be prepared for a thicker laptop.

The lack of early support for HD-DVD and/or Blu-Ray pisses me off. The super media machine that can't play HD movies ;) I was very angry when I bought an LG combo player and the Mac won't handle either format.

Again, Macs aren't the best media PLAYERS, they are the best media CREATORS. And giving early support for next gen drives when the final format isn't yet settled is very risky and costly.

Re: ^ the lack of 3rd party alternatives. On the PC you have PowerDVD, WinDVD, etc. Here we have to wait (and wait and wait and wait) for Apple to bless something new.

You don't like Leopard's DVD Player? It doesnt NEED alternatives.

Lasso a bunch of files in Finder and press delete; nothing happens.

Its not Windows. To delete files press Cmd-Backspace.

Lack of backspace on the Macbook Pro (who thinks FN-DEL is a good idea?)

Actually, its the BACKSPACE button, not DELETE. To make it act like DELETE, press FN. Personally, I never use DELETE button so I don't know why you want it to have a separate key on a laptop keyboard.

All kinds of crap gets in the speaker grilles and I can't get it out!

Dont eat over your MBP.

The power button has absolutely no rebound (did I press it or not?)

It makes a loud click that lets you know you've pressed it (yes, I've pressed Power buttons on MBPs, many of them).

A LOT of webpages are not handled properly by Safari. If they want to foist their own browser on us, be more proactive about fixing broken pages -- put a "report me" button on the toolbar.

Ask site developers to stop optimizing for IE and take Safari into consideration.

"Hibernation" support is in OSX but hidden and not enabled by default in the GUI. Hibernation = good for putting your Macbook in your laptop bag for the hour drive home without losing state or starting a fire.

For what reason doesnt the default sleep appeal to you?

Closing the app window with the red "x" doesn't kill the application. That drives me insane.

As already been said, relaunching Photoshop is better?

You can't right-drag-and-drop. In windows, this gives you a "move/copy" menu. On OSX, nada. You also can't right-drag-and-drop to create a program shortcut. No, you have to say "make alias" and then move it where you want. 2 steps instead of 1.

Again, learn some keyboard shortcuts.

You sound like you like Windows a lot better than OS X.

BTW, the glowing Apple logo is gorgeous!
 
This is a thread about what bothers you about Macs, right? So, A) everything in here is going to be subjective; and B) why do you waste thread space not answering the topic of this thread with something that bothers you, instead trying to invalidate my opinion with yours, which is equally valid/invalid? This very kind of attitude is exactly the kind of objectionable fanboyism I mentioned in the first part of my post you quoted.

The thing I hate most about Macs is ex-PC users who think everything should work the Windows way. :rolleyes:

Happy?
 
To the contrary, I REALLY MISS having a sleep light on my iMac - it lets me know if I need to wait 20 seconds to boot it or 3 seconds for it to wake from sleep :p

Seriously though, I'd like some visual confirmation that my iMac is asleep - since I use my iMac as an AirPort hub for my iBook, my iMac won't go to sleep by itself, so I'd like to know that pushing the power button actually slept my iMac. (by the way, why on earth is the power button on the back? Isn't turning the computer on important enough to be front-and-center?)

People saying that shutting down your Mac is stupid - I live in an area where the power isn't terribly reliable (and yes I should buy a UPS, I'm saving up for one - maybe my opinion would change after I own a UPS :eek:), so if I'm going to be away from my computer for a while (if I'm going to sleep or going to be out of the house all day/for a couple of days for example) I'd rather have it be shut down properly than force-shut-down without my knowledge.

People saying that the "chin" on the iMac is stupid - where else would I put all of my assorted Post-It notes???:rolleyes:;)
 
Tby the way, why on earth is the power button on the back? Isn't turning the computer on important enough to be front-and-center?

It used to be in the front of the iMacs back in the G3 days, but with the release of more stable software they first got rid of the Reset button and then moved the Power button to the back.

I know no one with a Mac who shuts it down.

People saying that the "chin" on the iMac is stupid - where else would I put all of my assorted Post-It notes???:rolleyes:;)

Dashboard :p a lot more convinient than physical notes all over your desk/monitor.
 
You don't like Leopard's DVD Player? It doesnt NEED alternatives.

Yes it does. There is currently no Mac playback software for HD DVD or BR. Just because you don't need it doesn't mean that nobody else does; personally I'm getting sick of booting into Windows to watch HD DVDs.

Dont eat over your MBP.

I don't, yet my speakers are full of dust etc. That'd be my biggest complaint about my MBP: It's a dust magnet.

It makes a loud click that lets you know you've pressed it (yes, I've pressed Power buttons on MBPs, many of them).

I don't agree with the original poster and I can feel the "press" of the button, but I certainly wouldn't say it emits a loud click!
 
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