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There is only about 100 million WhatsApp users in the US - less than a third of the US population. It's relatively small compared to the rest of the world because the US is only about 4% of the world population. Your personal experience is not that of the world. You should get out more.
My personal experience is all I am concerned about. I don’t really care all that much about percentages of who uses certain platforms/apps or not. I don’t really find that information to be useful in my case.
 
I made this thread to get advice to help me decide what phone to get and what would be involved.

It doesn't matter how many people in the US use WhatsApp if the people you communicate with regularly don't use it. I've used WhatsApp and telegram before but it can't replace regular text messages for me since my friends and family don't use it.

Exactly. Knowing what I know now, I am likely to make the decision to just upgrade to the 17e. Double the storage, newer chip, no risks in changing brands into what I may not be as familiar with.
 
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Can someone enlighten me as to why US iPhone users are so set against using third party messaging apps like WhatsApp or messenger?

Using these messaging apps enables movement between ios and Android without feeling like you are stuck because of iMessage!
 
Can someone enlighten me as to why US iPhone users are so set against using third party messaging apps like WhatsApp or messenger?

Using these messaging apps enables movement between ios and Android without feeling like you are stuck because of iMessage!
In my case I am dead set against it because the people I know have never heard of it, and would be very unlikely to transition to it - Imessage is just easier, quicker, and is the tried / true option.
 
Can someone enlighten me as to why US iPhone users are so set against using third party messaging apps like WhatsApp or messenger?

Using these messaging apps enables movement between ios and Android without feeling like you are stuck because of iMessage!
It's the fact that iMessage is built in... no need to go to the App Store to install any 3rd party app and then you come into issues where one friend has WhatsApp, while another friend don't but have Messenger.

Whereas all iPhone users have iMessage and there's no need to jungle multiple 3rd party apps... but this really all started with how carriers setup limited text messages plans and Apple swooped in to take advantage of it.

Well if that's your attitude towards using an alternative to iMessage then this thread is largely pointless!

You can't consider switching to Android then
With the help of BlueBubbles or OpenBubbles makes switching to Android possible when iMessage is the main obstacle, folks can make the move if they actually want to.
 
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Well if that's your attitude towards using an alternative to iMessage then this thread is largely pointless!

You can't consider switching to Android then
Well in the past, I was thinking about it. Keep in mind I made this thread 6 months ago.

I think I have settled on merely upgrading from the 16e to the 17e. Might just kick the "Android" question down the road, if you know what I mean.
 
I have WhatsApp installed purely for work purposes and when I am retired very soon that will be getting deleted because the main reason is that it is owned by meta and I refuse to use any of their services when I leave work.
 
It's the fact that iMessage is built in... no need to go to the App Store to install any 3rd party app and then you come into issues where one friend has WhatsApp, while another friend don't but have Messenger.

Whereas all iPhone users have iMessage and there's no need to jungle multiple 3rd party apps... but this really all started with how carriers setup limited text messages plans and Apple swooped in to take advantage of it.


With the help of BlueBubbles or OpenBubbles makes switching to Android possible when iMessage is the main obstacle, folks can make the move if they actually want to.
Whether IOS or android they both have app stores, downloading an app that makes switching between the 2 simple is not a big deal imo, if you do then fair enough but it's strange!

Most people download apps for this and apps for that but downloading an app for messaging cross platform is too much? Really.
 
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Whether IOS or android they both have app stores, downloading an app that makes switching between the 2 simple is not a big deal imo, if you do then fair enough but it's strange!

Most people download apps for this and apps for that but downloading an app for messaging cross platform is too much? Really.
Of course, it's not a big deal... just pointing out why iMessage is as dominate it is in states. And when you have years of this practice... then it becomes the status quo.
 
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I have a 16e. Main thing I dislike is that the photo quality isn't that great.

The __e iPhones are reduced price mostly because of reduced camera performance.
If that isn't good enough, I suggest that you look here (DxOmark site) before you buy:


The __e iPhones don't make the upper part of the list.

Edit: "I think I have settled on merely upgrading from the 16e to the 17e."

You might consider a refurbished 16 Pro, which might be close to the price of a new 17e. Reputedly, the 16 Pro camera is good.
 
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Can someone enlighten me as to why US iPhone users are so set against using third party messaging apps like WhatsApp or messenger?

Lots of people in the US, and, elsewhere, are not set against using third party messaging apps. All the people I know use Signal when they they want a secure alternative to iMessage. Lots of group chats work fine with mixed iMessage/SMS. Signal is a lightweight app that doesn't drag along a privacy-compromising ecosystem with it.
 
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Most people download apps for this and apps for that but downloading an app for messaging cross platform is too much? Really.

Downloading an app for messaging isn't particularly useful unless you can also get all - or at least many - of your family and friends to download and sign-up for the same app. For most of us that won't happen - the stock messaging app is considered 'good enough' by most phone users. They don't want different messaging apps for different contacts. They'll tolerate it for work-related messaging if forced to do so, but want simplicity elsewhere.

In WhatsApp-using areas the same is probably true in reverse. Why switch to a different messaging app if everyone you need to chat with is reachable through WhatsApp?

As techies we often embrace change and might even enjoy complexity. We're the exception, not the rule.
 
My entire family besides my youngest son and wife (and her parents) are all on iPhones. We communicate via our messages app without issue. RCS fixed all the blue bubble green bubble nonsense. It all works the exact same now. We an message, send photos, videos etc without issue. The only issue is fanboyism in this day and age. Meaning fans of one platform will try to discredit the other side with silly non sensical speak. In reality, Everything works together now.
 
Can someone enlighten me as to why US iPhone users are so set against using third party messaging apps like WhatsApp or messenger?

Using these messaging apps enables movement between ios and Android without feeling like you are stuck because of iMessage!

I'm not... I use What's App with other 'muricans, expatriates and folks living in other contries on regular basis. A number of them are iPhone users.

It also works exceptionally well for me when traveling abroad.
 
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I wonder how many of those are active WhatsApp users. As opposed to setting up an account, and then abandoning it after realizing that no one you know has used the app (or they've also abandoned it for similar reasons).

Like others in the US, I don't know anyone who actively uses WhatsApp.
It says there are 100 million active WhatsApps users in the US...

"How many whatsapp users are there in the US"
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