Two idle VMware VMs would be virtually no load.
Two busy VMs would be a different story.
What does OSX report for CPU load?
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Two busy VMs would be a different story.
What does OSX report for CPU load?
Now I can tell the differences between the Quadcore and the 10 core. 
It was an E5-1620 v2 @ 3.7 GHz with 32GB 1866 MHz DDR3 RAM.
I am getting 3970 in single core and 14338 in multicore.
Now it is an E5-2690 v2 @ 3GHz.
And now I am getting 3663 in single core and 26802 in multicore.
The temperature is at 42°C when idle.
When Handbrake is running the temperature goes up to 73°C.
It was an E5-1620 v2 @ 3.7 GHz with 32GB 1866 MHz DDR3 RAM.
I am getting 3970 in single core and 14338 in multicore.
Now it is an E5-2690 v2 @ 3GHz.
And now I am getting 3663 in single core and 26802 in multicore.
The temperature is at 42°C when idle.
When Handbrake is running the temperature goes up to 73°C.
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Thanks for posting all of your findings guys!
That is cool to see you cracked the 4000 Geekbench score.
When comparing the stock 1650v2 with the 1660v2 I notice that the 1660 doesn't have a lot of these "extensions"...
SSE2
F16C MMX SSE4
SSE3 EM64T SSE SSE4.1 SSE4.2 Supplemental SSE3
What are these, and is my Mac Pro utilizing them? Would I miss them? :/
I notice that the 2667 V2 is only missing: F16C and EM64T compared again to the stock 1650v2 that has all the extensions.
That is cool to see you cracked the 4000 Geekbench score.
When comparing the stock 1650v2 with the 1660v2 I notice that the 1660 doesn't have a lot of these "extensions"...
SSE2
F16C MMX SSE4
SSE3 EM64T SSE SSE4.1 SSE4.2 Supplemental SSE3
What are these, and is my Mac Pro utilizing them? Would I miss them? :/
I notice that the 2667 V2 is only missing: F16C and EM64T compared again to the stock 1650v2 that has all the extensions.
I just upgraded to a 2667 v2 in my 6,1. So far so good. It was a vanity upgrade as I already had the 6 core 1650 v2, but I got a good deal. I'm seeing good idle temps in OSX (36 - 38C).
I do think this cpu is pushing the thermal limit of the heat sync though. I say that because under heavy gaming in bootcamp I saw spikes slightly north of 90C in both CPU and GPU. I know this is under the stated limit of those parts but I got the feeling that had I really been pushing the CPUs in addition to GPUS it could easily climb much higher. The game I was playing didn't have high CPU utilization so I think the CPU was getting soaked from the heat of the GPUs. There is a strong correlation in temps of all three dies (GPU1, GPU2, and CPU) after a certain amount of time and load which only makes sense as they all share the same heat sink. I'll do some more testing in the coming weeks and share my observations.
Would be interested in others experiences especially in bootcamp/gaming. My 6,1 has dual d700 and I use one 1440p monitor on bus 0.
I do think this cpu is pushing the thermal limit of the heat sync though. I say that because under heavy gaming in bootcamp I saw spikes slightly north of 90C in both CPU and GPU. I know this is under the stated limit of those parts but I got the feeling that had I really been pushing the CPUs in addition to GPUS it could easily climb much higher. The game I was playing didn't have high CPU utilization so I think the CPU was getting soaked from the heat of the GPUs. There is a strong correlation in temps of all three dies (GPU1, GPU2, and CPU) after a certain amount of time and load which only makes sense as they all share the same heat sink. I'll do some more testing in the coming weeks and share my observations.
Would be interested in others experiences especially in bootcamp/gaming. My 6,1 has dual d700 and I use one 1440p monitor on bus 0.
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Nice! Are you controlling your fan speeds? I found that if I did not, and just let windows decide... my temps would skyrocket. So now before I game (GTA/PUBG) I manually set the fan to 1900rpm (max) and all my temps stay nice and cool. I use the Mac Fan Control App in bootcamp.
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I'm kind of surprised at the Geekbench result shown earlier. I have a 4,1 (flashed to 5,1) with a single hexacore processor - the Xeon W3680, which I got used off eBay for $100. My computer originally had the slowest quad core Xeon.
My score is 3088 (single-core) and 14390 (multi-core). I expected the garbage can to be faster than my ancient computer by a significant margin... am I missing something? I've been keeping my cheese grater alive long enough to get a used garbage can. But if it's only 30% faster...
My score is 3088 (single-core) and 14390 (multi-core). I expected the garbage can to be faster than my ancient computer by a significant margin... am I missing something? I've been keeping my cheese grater alive long enough to get a used garbage can. But if it's only 30% faster...
pretty sure that horse has been beat to death over the past 5 years
Results are typical for that CPU in a cMP. I had a single X5690 in my 2009 cMP and it Geekbenched 3200 single and just over 15000 multi:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8005381
Upgrading to a dual CPU tray and a pair of the X5690s netted scores of near 3000 single and near 27000 multi:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9449958
The nMP will usually single-core score better than the older cMPs, but multi-core scores are very similar.
Yes - fan control helps tremendously. Using macfan control to ramp up fans past 60c, I rarely see gpu/cpu temps past 80c, even with my d700's overclocked - thanks for the tip.
Awesome. I bet all the cases of nMP's frying, I keep hearing about, is simply because the fan speed is way too low.
What is your method for overclocking your d700'? I used to be able to overclock my d500's but since I have been using bootcampdrivers.com for my amd drivers....the past several versions would not work with MSI Afterburner for me anymore. Very curious, as I miss the huge boost that was possible with Afterburner.
Cheers.
I went back to the ATI delivered bootcamp drivers (from their website). Had too many issues with the other drivers like bootcamp.com. Not on the bleeding edge of games, so I guess that helps.
I use MSI afterburner on windows 10. Getting a stable 1000mhz core and 1500mhz vram which is a pretty nice bump. I disabled ULPS and Powerplay and added +20 to the power slider to prevent throttling. Disabling ULPS and Powerplay have the biggest impact to performance even at stock clocks. Out of the box the GPUS throttle a lot to maintain that whisper quiet fan profile I guess.
I got so excited about how well this system does I even created a thread about it here. As much grief as the trashcan gets most people don't realize how much power is packed in a system the size of a roll of paper towels that's dead silent.
Believe me, I would love to shout that praises about the nMP... but damn man, the PRICE! For what you can get the cMP for, the nMP is 3X the price if not more.
I bought the cMP for $450... dual CPUs, the works. To buy a comparable nMP would be at least $1700 these days.
If the price were $1000 or less, sales would skyrocket!!!
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They are expensive. But that's like complaining that a new car is more expensive than a 10 year old one.
I'm sure a lot has to do with the fact that almost everything in the nMP is custom. The d700 video cards still sell for $1000 a piece on ebay!
I'm sure once the next Mac Pro comes out, the 2013 will dip in price. Since it was such a "disaster" I hope that helps bring parts down as well.
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When I was considering purchasing a nMP, I did look up pricing on the D700s. My thinking was that I could get a lower end model, and upgrade the internal graphics cards. Then I saw the ebay pricing... nope!
Like you said, when the mMP comes out, hopefully the bottom will fall out on the nMP. Then maybe I can finally pick one up for a reasonable price.
Problem with this "new" car, is that it was new 5 years ago. In the computer world, that's ancient. I just have a hard time shelling out the kind of money the nMP goes for when its tech is over 5 years old.
When I was considering purchasing a nMP, I did look up pricing on the D700s. My thinking was that I could get a lower end model, and upgrade the internal graphics cards. Then I saw the ebay pricing... nope!
Like you said, when the mMP comes out, hopefully the bottom will fall out on the nMP. Then maybe I can finally pick one up for a reasonable price.
I haven't yet but it is on my to-do list.I have the 6 core with d500s. Ive been looking at the E5-1660v2 as a replacement. Mostly for it's higher clock speed for photoshop/lightroom and games in bootcamp. Also because there are cheap used chips available that I can try. It is a small bump in clock speed but I have seen good single core benchmarks. As for my needs, would be the best option...vs an 8 core chip?
Has anyone here swapped the xeon in your trashcan?
Cheers!
As soon as the warranty is out early next year. A 12Core is going in.
It already runs great on the amount of RAM in it. It runs great with the eGPU. And from what I've read the higher core cpu will push it's life span jusssssssst a little bit longer.
So if I can put another $150-200 in to get another several years out of it. That gives me a better return on investment as well as extending the time in between spending another several thousand dollars on a new system.
So I am hoping for no computer replacement until at least 2020+.
18.10.1 seems to have restored overclocking capabilities. Worth giving that one a go.