MacPro 6,1 - BootCamp/Gaming Check-in Thread

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  1. sbarton, Sep 11, 2018
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    sbarton macrumors regular

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    Hey, anyone still gaming on your trashcan?

    I am, so I thought I'd start a post to share information about what games work, issues, tips and tricks. I'm not a huge gamer, but these days everything I do play is in Windows 10 on a bootcamp partition.

    I'm currently using the bootcamp drivers from AMD's website. I tried several of the 18.x series drivers on bootcampdrivers.com site but one of the games I play (eve online) wouldn't launch with any of them. Also, I've encountered multiple issues with various driver packages installing correctly. Best advice I can give is to absolutely use the latest DDU utility (outlined in the readme's) and run it in SAFE mode at least 2 times in a row (some recommend 3). The only issue I have seen with the drivers didn't load any gaming profiles. It's unclear to me if a AMD delivered game profile can/does set parameters for a game that can't be done in the settings interface. I've made profiles for all of the games I play to tweak various settings.

    I also use MSI Afterburner to overclock when gaming. My d700s are currently clocked at 950Mhz core and 1500Mhz memory. No issues with heat management with anything I play, and temps rarely exceed 80C while using the macfancontrol utility.

    Best bump in performance is to use MSI Afterburner to disable PowerPlay and raise max power +20. Couple this with macfancontrol and it will give you a solid 20% boost in performance in both single and CF games. Add a modest overclock to memory and GPU and you can eek out another 5% - in my experience memory has better impact than GPU speed. My d700s will clock to 1Ghz, however I stay at 950Mhz so I can safely stay at or under 80c for long durations.

    I run a single display at 2560x1440 @ 75Hz over display port (TB Bus 0)

    Games I play and performance I'm still seeing:

    • Guild Wars 2: Between 50 - 65fps in most places. In large battles can drop to 30'ish but still very playable. I run this game with CF off and all settings at High except distance which is set to Ultra. CF works, but results in poorer performance than a single card.
    • World of Tanks: Between 45 - 65fps all settings maxed. CF off
    • World of Warships: Between 50 - 75fps all settings maxed. CF off
    • Black Desert Online: Between 55 - 70fps all settings High (don't forget to disable low power switch in display settings of this game. CF On - set to 1x1. Some flickering when switching between desktop and game, but quickly disappears.
    • Eve Online: 75fps solid all setting maxed. During large fleet battles it can drop to 30'ish. Very CPU dependent game. CF works well with this game "1x1". Launcher required an obscure system environment variable to be set before it would launch: (QT_OPENGL = desktop).
    Feel free to share your tips, tricks, and thoughts on keeping these systems playing for as long as possible! Also, please keep the discussion to Windows and bootcamp please. Plenty of other threads for native mac gaming already!

    If your playing any games in bootcamp send me your config, screen resolution and low/high/avg frame rates and I'll post it here.
     
  2. sbarton, Sep 29, 2018
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    sbarton thread starter macrumors regular

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    Quick update -

    I went back to the AMD official drivers from their website. They seem to run better for me than others i've tried and I've had no game compatibility issues with anything I play.

    For those looking to overclock their d700's - I've had good luck with msi afterburner. Make sure you disable ULPC and Powerplay. If you don't your overclock will likely throttle significantly and you might actually loose performance. I also use +20 on the power slider to give it some headroom. I've been able to increase the core GPU clock to 1000mhz and VRAM to 1500Mhz with no stability issues whatsoever. Temps are still south of 80c in most cases and something like macfancontrol is really necessary to ramp up the fan during gaming - it works brilliantly.
     
  3. Selsk macrumors member

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    Oh cool. I will try them again with the overclock.... do you mean AMD drivers?
     
  4. sbarton thread starter macrumors regular

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    yep
     
  5. pierre1610 macrumors regular

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    Can Bootcamp be installed on a USB 3 drive yet on win 10? My 1tb internal drive space is needed for other things
     
  6. Selsk macrumors member

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    I'm not sure. I only have the 250GB which I split into Mac/Win evenly. Usb 3 5TB external for my other things.
    --- Post Merged, Oct 1, 2018 ---
    Thanks for the advice! I had been using bootcampdrivers.com for so long, hoping each new update would increase my FPS in PUBG. I switched back to the AMD official drivers and am using MSI Afterburner Beta. My FPS in pubg almost doubled with forcing crossfire 1x1.
     
  7. sbarton thread starter macrumors regular

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    I don't think it works. There are several videos about how to hack it onto a USB device but I wouldn't bother. I tried it once and it worked great until I booted into OSX after which it became unusable. Perhaps someone here can give you better advice. If you need to reclaim the space, my recommendation would to buy an external TB drive or enclosure and stick an SSD in there. I usually need about 500gb for my windows 10 install and games.
     
  8. pierre1610 macrumors regular

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    How would something like Forza run? i have D500's
     
  9. sbarton thread starter macrumors regular

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    I don't know what the D500s equate to - maybe HD7950 with 3gb. Easiet way to project peformance is to google benchmarks on windo
    Thats great news - can you share your screen resolution and low/high/average FPS and I will add that to the top of the thread.
     
  10. mhd2100 macrumors member

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    18.10.1 seems to restore overclocking capabilities again. Worth a try?
     
  11. Selsk macrumors member

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    Sure I'm playing native on my 27" monitor with only 60hz. 2560x1440
    55 low fps sometimes while driving etc. 97 on the high side. Average about 77. Not bad for such a high res. If I switch to 1080 then my fps is over 100.

    My MSI afterburner settings for the d500s:
    Power Limit +20
    Core Clock 944
    Memory Clock 1443

    Running crossfire is not perfect for PUBG but it works. For example in the Lobby / Menus I get flickering. And some buttons are missing until you mouse over them etc. But once in game everything is fine!
     

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