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I think my iPhone 8 takes okay pictures, but then I haven't followed the progress in mobile cameras.
 
When the last SE came out I got it for my elderly parents- a perfect phone for them. They asked if they should upgrade to this one. Absolutely no point, I told them. Not worth it at all.

The base storage of 64Gb is insulting. For a lot of people 128Gb is too small.
 
I have an iPad Pro and an iPhone 13 mini. From my experience, I can say that the face recognition is more reliable on the phone. When you're using the phone, you're more likely to be "face on" to the face sensor. With the iPad, I sometimes have to remind myself to deliberately look up towards the top of the screen.
I'm almost always holding my iPad Pro in landscape and I always cover the damn camera!
 
So , in day to day usage what am I going to notice? I do not recall the last time I had an issue with a computer because it didn't have enough RAM. Does it become slow as it moves from one task/app to the other?

So much performance. So little screen.

Thats actually a positive not a negative. 4.7inch is the largest I am going, anything larger I am unable to use one handed with a thumb.

I want a smartPHONE not a portable TV

Translation: We are going to keep this design for another 4 years.

How did you figure that a ram upgrade means the whole design will remain for another 4 years?
and thats good news, because I find this design is better than the whole screen-notch design

This SE3 will be incredibly snappy and fast in day to day use.

I’m pretty sure it’s going to be noticeably faster when navigating between screens than the rest of the iPhone 13 lineup. It’s probably not a huge difference, but I’m sure it’s there.

The same thing happened with SE2 and iPhone 11. If you play with both side by side, you will clearly notice that the SE2 is snappier, despite having the same chipset.

I plan on upgrading to the SE3 from my iPhone 13 Pro for the following reasons:

- Face ID just sucks. For me, Touch ID is far more reliable and convenient.
- 13 Pro is too bulky and heavy. Feels like a brick. Never got used to it.
- 13 Pro has extra cameras that I never use. Bunch of gimmicks all around that are useless to me.

Now that SE3 comes with an improved camera and 5G, it’s a no-brainer to me.

I just wish Apple offered it in black. There should always be a black color. I emphasize black, no graphite or midnight. The midnight is actually a rich navy, which is clearly blue during the day.

I salute you Sir!
 
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The wife of a close friend is excited about the iPhone SE3. She currently is using an iPhone 5 that her provider has recently said it will not support after the end of March. The phone is a huge upgrade for her. BTW, she could afford the top of the line iPhone Pro, but she commented, "why do I need it, I only use the phone to text with my daughter and call my husband when we get separated in a large store." My guess is there are several million iPhone users out there just like her. (Her husband plans to get an iPhone 14 in the fall, upgrading from his iPhone 6.)
 
"why do I need it, I only use the phone to text with my daughter and call my husband when we get separated in a large store." My guess is there are several million iPhone users out there just like her. (Her husband plans to get an iPhone 14 in the fall, upgrading from his iPhone 6.)

Lol, that's me. Hence, iPhones have always been low priority for me.

I do like Night Mode though. I found it incredibly useful on the 12 mini while I was doing a site survey and had to check out wall jacks hidden behind large heavy furniture. Alas, I can't stand looking at OLED for more than a few minutes so I'm sticking to the SE. Just wish it came with better cameras.
 
I have a relative who recently bought an iPhone 13 mini, when his first-gen SE failed, because that was the smallest phone Apple sells. He rejected the second-gen SE as too big. It's not like he wears super tight jeans or anything, he just doesn't like "big" phones. Some people have different needs/wants.
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What is your point? Per Apple's own specs, compared to the first-gen SE, the iPhone 12 mini is 0.31" (7.7mm) taller, 0.22" (5.6mm) wider, 0.01" (0.2mm) thinner, and 0.77 ounces (22 grams) heavier.

Compared to the 12 mini, the 13 mini adds back the 0.01" (0.2mm) of thickness and adds an additional 0.21 ounces (6 grams) of weight.

The SE in that picture would be second-gen or third-gen.

The relative I mentioned didn't really want a phone bigger than the first-gen SE (the size of an iPhone 5). The 13 mini he got is the smallest they make now, but it's still bigger than that first-gen SE.
 
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What is your point? Per Apple's own specs, compared to the first-gen SE, the iPhone 12 mini is 0.31" (7.7mm) taller, 0.22" (5.6mm) wider, 0.01" (0.2mm) thinner, and 0.77 ounces (22 grams) heavier.

Compared to the 12 mini, the 13 mini adds back the 0.01" (0.2mm) of thickness and adds an additional 0.21 ounces (6 grams) of weight.

The SE in that picture would be second-gen or third-gen.

The relative I mentioned didn't really want a phone bigger than the first-gen SE (the size of an iPhone 5). The 13 mini he got is the smallest they make now, but it's still bigger than that first-gen SE.
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My point is that these comparisons down to millimetres are just absurd. iPhone SE, 12, 13, 12 Mini, 13 Mini, 12 Pro, 13 Pro are all small and compact phones. Try holding them with a Pro Max in another hand.
 
Well in India though, where I live.

iPhone SE is launched for INR 44,000 (USD 579)

I got the iPhone 12 for INR 46,000 (USD 598).

iPhone 12 Mini was priced at INR 34,000 (USD 442).


So I have no idea who SE 2022 is for. It certainly is not for consumers in developing economies.
It's good that you're saying I can't decide right now ? help
iphone 12 mini is compact and better screen and Gorilla Glass,battery,camera vs A15 chip + touch ID
 
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My point is that these comparisons down to millimetres are just absurd. iPhone SE, 12, 13, 12 Mini, 13 Mini, 12 Pro, 13 Pro are all small and compact phones. Try holding them with a Pro Max in another hand.
I'm giving you a data point and you're arguing that it's preposterous - it isn't preposterous, it's data. Ignore it if that's what you were going to do anyway. The iPhone 12/13 mini are, very roughly, a third of an inch taller, and a quarter of an inch wider, than the first-gen SE. To some people, that's significant.
 
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I honestly think the only reason Apple refreshed this version of the SE was due to 5G. I think they would have refreshed the old SE if 5G came earlier (or it was a 3G device and needed 4G).

I'm giving you a data point and you're arguing that it's preposterous - it isn't preposterous, it's data. Ignore it if that's what you were going to do anyway. The iPhone 12/13 mini are, very roughly, a third of an inch taller, and a quarter of an inch wider, than the first-gen SE. To some people, that's significant.

I agree. When I hold the 12/13 in my hand, they feel huge in comparison to the Mini. When something is small a centimetre difference can feel huge. The same goes for weight, the MacBook 12 might've only weighed a small amount less than the Air -- but it makes a huge difference.
 
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I'm giving you a data point and you're arguing that it's preposterous - it isn't preposterous, it's data. Ignore it if that's what you were going to do anyway. The iPhone 12/13 mini are, very roughly, a third of an inch taller, and a quarter of an inch wider, than the first-gen SE. To some people, that's significant.
And I am telling you that people who wanted a large battery and screen size won that war 3 years ago. Thats why Pro Max is such a success.
Now luckily there is still a Mini device but its sales are pretty low. I also prefer a compact device but not to the point where the battery suffers. Standard iPhone 12/13 are the sweet spot for me.
 
And I am telling you that people who wanted a large battery and screen size won that war 3 years ago. Thats why Pro Max is such a success.
Now luckily there is still a Mini device but its sales are pretty low. I also prefer a compact device but not to the point where the battery suffers. Standard iPhone 12/13 are the sweet spot for me.
The argument that @CarlJ makes is completely legitimate. Your last statement makes the point. Everyone has their own sweet spot - and they can be quite different. To illustrate:

I can't stand small phones. I use the max/pro size for battery life and screen width. Both are of paramount importance to me. I have large hands, don't do one-handed texting and like the larger screen size. The difference in screen between the max/pro and SE/6/7/8 screen width is just a few mm's but it's a huge difference to me when it comes to keyboard use and a larger display. I had a 6s and it drove me crazy because it was so narrow. I'm a computer geek and like newer tech.

My wife, on the other hand, cannot stand larger phones She has an 8 and wants a mini because it's not as long. That length is important to her because of the way she carries her phone. She has small hands and does on-handed texting. As long as the device texts, gets emails and call well, she couldn't care less how up-to-date the tech is.

I really don't think fractions of a mm or gram make much of a difference, but a few mm's can make a big difference.

Just my 2 cents. I realize others may agree and disagree but that's the point Everyone's 'sweet spot' is different. Thank goodness for all the options Apple provides.
 
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The argument that @CarlJ makes is completely legitimate. Your last statement makes the point. Everyone has their own sweet spot - and they can be quite different. To illustrate:

I can't stand small phones. I use the max/pro size for battery life and screen width. Both are of paramount importance to me. I have large hands, don't do one-handed texting and like the larger screen size. The difference in screen between the max/pro and SE/6/7/8 screen width is just a few mm's but it's a huge difference to me when it comes to keyboard use and a larger display. I had a 6s and it drove me crazy because it was so narrow. I'm a computer geek and like newer tech.

My wife, on the other hand, cannot stand larger phones She has an 8 and wants a mini because it's not as long. That length is important to her because of the way she carries her phone. She has small hands and does on-handed texting. As long as the device texts, gets emails and call well, she couldn't care less how up-to-date the tech is.

I really don't think fractions of a mm or gram make much of a difference, but a few mm's can make a big difference.

Just my 2 cents. I realize others may agree and disagree but that's the point Everyone's 'sweet spot' is different. Thank goodness for all the options Apple provides.
Agreed, it's good we have the choice to suit individual preferences. As for myself, I prefer a smaller phone that I can tuck into my shirt pocket.

I read a while back that Apple were considering dropping the smaller form factor in future. I hope that doesn't turn out to be true.
 
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