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- Haptic feedback while dragging: feel when you hit the end of a scrolling page or list, or when something you're dragging gets over a target. ANY user can benefit from that kind of added feedback. (But it will take time for developers to get used to what works best vs. what's a gimmick.)

This could be very useful for accessibility... I'd imagine vision-impaired users would find this kind of haptic feedback very useful when navigating UI elements.
 
Sure, I just like the idea of having a built in tablet on the laptop where graphic designers could do their work.

It might not be Apple first intention but if that leads to a Wacom replacement, I am up to it. I love Wacom, don't get me wrong. I had more than 4 of their tablets over the years but if Apple can deliver a superior experience built in on their laptops and make me avoid to carry the tablet everywhere, I am all for it.


To do that work effectively, you need a 9 x 9 area or bigger to use the stylus with force touch. Otherwise, I recommend using a small or medium digitizer to hook up to your laptop. That's how I used to do that years ago but now do it mostly on my desktop for professional reasons.

I don't think Force Touch will have that many pressure sensitivity levels that the Wacom has.

A trackpad or smaller for this new tech won't cut it.
 
Who came up with this idea? damn smart. I imagine many things but this was not one of them. Good work!

(talking abut the force touch pad by apple)
 
Heh, I was talking about Inklet in another thread the other day.

It'll be fine for writing quick signatures, not so much as a Wacom Pen & Touch replacement. Just think about how you write when you do write on paper, the trackpad isn't setup to work that way.

Will be great on the iPad though.
 
A 13" iPad with Force Touch could be a viable replacement for a 13" Cintiq, though. Kind of depends on how many levels of pressure sensitivity this has. Does anyone know? Even just 256 would be decent.

Pressure sensitivity is the easy part. A better digitizer with much higher accuracy is far more important. There are any number of crappy stylii out there for the iPad now with pressure support, and you can use the iPad as a Cintiq with an app whose name I can't recall at the moment. Until the capacitive screen gets an update though, none of them are worth owning because the pens just aren't nearly as accurate or responsive as a Cintiq. Not even close. And this isn't even touching on more advanced functionality like tilt sensitivity.
 
I'm excited about a new Magic Trackpad with these new features, but then I think the haptic feedback will consume some battery... a wired trackpad would be much better, I don't get all this fashion to use batteries all around like if we were 5yo kids.
 
And no one will get confused ?

How many uses accidentally touch their track-pad invoking some command with "tap to click" on currently?

This only makes it worse with force touch..... now u have the added ability of making sure if u do touch to "make sure u only touch either lightly or press heavenly"..

I anticipate... all sorts of things will happen, depending on what app your in, and it will be so frustrating that while on the surface, looks cool, it will really get under the users skin....

I hope this is implemented ONLY when u enable "tap to click" and not forced upon uses, as that will really look ugly.

Basically, I know Apple really wants to eliminate the "two finger tap" for right click here into a "smart" "how much pressure can we apply to achieve the same thing" kind of issue..... but it will only cause allot of headaches in the end.

As for implementing this on iOS.... well....... (switch to Android now) :) You'll be glad you did.

There is only so far you can take it.

(What is wrong with that picture) ... Not on a laptop ...... It's basically saying "users don't want touch screens, so drawing on something that is NOT a screen looks way better" I would keep looking to see if this darn pen works, since nothing is appearing on my trackpad.
 
I see the learning curve on this being massive. 21 years of "click" and dealing with 10,000 spread sheet reports where suddenly its "press just right" or you get have a bad day real quick.

That's right. Some people still actually do real business work on computers.
 
And no one will get confused ?

How many uses accidentally touch their track-pad invoking some command with "tap to click" on currently?

I used tap to click feature for six years already, and not a single accident click occurred that I remember.

Mac has done a very good job preventing that, especially when typing. It's almost same like ipad edge rejection when holding it.

My touch pad click already broken 4 years ago because the battery start to become swollen. I haven't change it though, now is pushing the battery door 2mm.

Different case with my asus laptop, I have to disable those touch pad every time i type which I think just driver issue though.
 
And no one will get confused ?

How many uses accidentally touch their track-pad invoking some command with "tap to click" on currently?

This only makes it worse with force touch..... now u have the added ability of making sure if u do touch to "make sure u only touch either lightly or press heavenly"..

I anticipate... all sorts of things will happen, depending on what app your in, and it will be so frustrating that while on the surface, looks cool, it will really get under the users skin....

I hope this is implemented ONLY when u enable "tap to click" and not forced upon uses, as that will really look ugly.

Basically, I know Apple really wants to eliminate the "two finger tap" for right click here into a "smart" "how much pressure can we apply to achieve the same thing" kind of issue..... but it will only cause allot of headaches in the end.

I see the learning curve on this being massive. 21 years of "click" and dealing with 10,000 spread sheet reports where suddenly its "press just right" or you get have a bad day real quick.

That's right. Some people still actually do real business work on computers.

It's clear to me that neither one of you have spent any "hands on" time with the new 13" rMBP.

Not that it wouldn't be possible to implement this kind of thing poorly ("Coming soon to Dell, HP, and Samsung laptops near you!") but Apple has really nailed this perfectly. And it doesn't otherwise change existing gestures in any way (e.g. two-finger "right click", Mission Control/Exposé, etc.) What's more, if you don't like Force Touch, it's easy enough to disable in System Preferences.
 
I want one for my new iMac Retina.

Hope Apple produces a separate trackpad for iMacs and Mac Pro.
 
I too hope there will be a new 'Force Magic Trackpad' soon.

By the way I'm a developer, currently I'm porting the multitouch Trackpad++ Windows driver to work the new Force Touch trackpad. Have to tell, the new Boot Camp driver is so buggy and limited, got even worse than ever.
 
Great idea to be able to use the trackpad as a drawing tablet, but I still can't get over the fact that the new Force Touch trackpad doesn't have a physical button.
 
Waiting for the ForceTouch iPhone 6s and iPadMini. There's a PERFECT use for a tablet. Put Wacom out of business. It's about time... since Wacom's prices have remained ridiculous and yet their quality keeps dropping (I'm looking at YOU Intuos CS2)!
 
I agree, although I'm not sure how they'd integrate Force Touch that way.

Wouldn't the vibration shake the trackpad around your desk?

Nah, the vibrations are subtle and the grippy rubber feet hold it in place. Also your finger is on the pad when the vibration is activated, meaning your finger is another point of stability as it holds it in place.
 
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