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Mistake? ipad 1 was an awesome product that i used everyday for 3 years
without complaint.

yeah it was good but the iPad 2 was so much better, I owned both and the iPad 2 still feels good enough where the iPad 1 now is ancient feeling
 
iCloud Drive...ugh...

I've been buying, providing support for, and earning a living from Apple products for 32 years. They've never really "just worked". They've "just worked" better than the competition, but that doesn't mean they've been flawless. Not even close.

Apple has become like everyone else these days. Ship something "good enough" and let your customers be eternal beta testers. By the time something is reasonably solid, it's on to the next version and the process starts all over. But this is the future of software in general it seems. At least now, thanks to the Internet, updates can be made quickly rather than waiting a year or two for one massive patch mailed out on floppy disks.


Hmmm...My first Apple purchase was a 3rd generation iPod Touch, which I still use to stream radio to a bluetooth speaker. Since then, I've purchased an iPhone 4s, an iPad 4, two 160 g iPod Classics, an iPhone 6 and a 13" MacBook Pro. Upgraded the MacBook Pro to 16 G ram and a 1 terabyte hard drive. Funny thing: Every Apple product I've purchased still "just works". Even the original battery in the MacBook Pro still "just works" for 5.5 to 6 hours after 3 years and 427 cycles.

Can't say the same for all the junky PC clones and orphaned MP3 players I bought over the years.
 
Which are the future. Safari in iOS 8 has WebGL enabled - as soon as developers start to realize that and take advantage of it, native apps will die swiftly (pun intended.)

No.

First of all, most of the world doesn't have unlimited data. If everything was web based, it would kill data plans (and battery life) to have to download everything every time.

Second, it makes for terrible security. You can only give webapps so much power over your system hardware.
 

Native apps will die swiftly.

Swift is the name of Apple's new language for native apps.

Thus my pun.

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I seriously doubt the lack of WebGL was the reason iOS 1's webapps failed. Even in this day and age, internet access isn't always available. And even when it is available, it often comes with restrictions. I don't see this changing any time soon. (especially not in the United States)

Of course not. There was a combination of a few reasons, including it only had Edge (two magnitudes slower than LTE), the lack of processor speed (which meant that interpretted languages like JavaScript would be too slow), the lack of RAM (JavaScript has garbage collection, which, kind of ironically, dramatically increases memory requirements), and the lack of standards for accessing things like accelerometer and multitouch input at the time killed it.

So Steve Jobs was a bit ahead of himself to think that web apps would be good enough 8 years ago. But with iOS 8's inclusion of WebGL in Safari, I see no reason to continue making native apps for iOS.
 
so is this an authorized 3rd party Tesla app or something someone shouldn't be messing with?

It's third party, which Tesla has taken a pretty hard line on recently (blocking or severely throttling). Tesla doesn't have an officially-supported API, so third party apps are always used at your own risk.
 
Is that also the range for something with a low powered antenna? I don't seem to get that range for things that are plugged in :eek:

Probably not. And it is probably a theoretical limit even so. But if you live in a one floor apartment, I bet your watch will be connected to your phone no matter where you are. I wonder if operating at range will lower your battery life.
 
The Apple Watch would potentially be closer to the remote than it would be to the phone: raise my arm, select the app, and tap whatever I need to do. Bam.

It's not laziness, it's convenience. It creates fewer actions necessary to accomplish the same task, particularly because the Watch is on my arm and the apps are designed specifically to be easy to use. Brief interactions, then done. Least resistance.

That's why this is so compelling, and why I think this will be a huge hit. It will be the path of least resistance to so many actions during our day, so many little things that become just automatic reflexes, and I fully believe Mr. Cook when he says he can't live without it.

That's exactly why I don't think it's very compelling at this point. Your example shaved what, a fraction of a second off of the alternate method? Is that worth dealing with another device every day? Wearing it on your wrist? Is it worth spending $350 or more for?

Of course those aren't issues for some. But they are just a few of the questions that any potential buyer will be asking themselves. I think the future of a device like this lies in its uniqueness. Taptic feedback, health sensors, etc. Things that the phone either can't do, or can't do well. I think that will drive a customer base. The minor added conveniences over the phone you already have should just be a bonus when it comes to the watch.
 
I'm definitely becoming more intrigued by the watch. This looks like a nice app, though I doubt I will ever own a Tesla.
If the heartbeat sensor works pretty well when I'm going for a run, I think this will push me toward buying the first generation. On the other hand, I have a nice watch with some sentimental attachment. So I'm not sure if I will want to give it up.
 
Which are the future. Safari in iOS 8 has WebGL enabled - as soon as developers start to realize that and take advantage of it, native apps will die swiftly (pun intended.)

Well, that will eventually backfire -- because if all applications live in the web browser, then what will be the advantage of using Apple hard- and software over the competition? Where's the added value? After all, web apps run on web browsers - and those are by definition operating system agnostic.

iOS and OS X app(lication)s are a way to lock people into the Apple ecosystem. The web, on the other hand, was what it made it possible for users to leave Microsoft - or ANY other specific platform - behind.

Steve Jobs realized that very quickly. "There's an app for that" keeps Apple in business - "there's a website for that" would quickly make Apple absolutely redundant.
 
I don't get why Apple insists on locking down new products and features. Let developers take advantage of them now, it'll be opened up eventually anyway.

Look at Android... it's out of control and fraught with security concerns. It has had little regard to end-user experience. Apple wants to make sure the end-user experience is clean, consistent and reliable. That requires a controlled roll-out.

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Well, that will eventually backfire -- because if all applications live in the web browser, then what will be the advantage of using Apple hard- and software over the competition? Where's the added value? After all, web apps run on web browsers - and those are by definition operating system agnostic.

iOS and OS X app(lication)s are a way to lock people into the Apple ecosystem. The web, on the other hand, was what it made it possible for users to leave Microsoft - or ANY other specific platform - behind.

Steve Jobs realized that very quickly. "There's an app for that" keeps Apple in business - "there's a website for that" would quickly make Apple absolutely redundant.

I still think that native apps have capabilities not as easily achievable in the web arena. They may get close, but not _as_ good.
 
Hasn't Apple already stated that a lot is in store for the Apple Watch at WWDC with the next version of the software? This is the beginning. Obviously it's going to be limited, but I have little doubt that things will open up fast.
 
Newton, part 2?

Firstly, I don't wear a watch. I have a phone that does a ton of stuff. ...Including telling time. So the thought of buying an emerging technology watch product does not interest me in the least. I remember looking at a Newton in the 1990s. Interesting product, again, emerging technology, and it was glitchy. I passed then and saved myself a few hundred bucks. I will do the same with the watch AND allow others to QA the device. Maybe gen 2 or 3 will be compelling enough to strap a watch onto my wrist.
To me the iPhone was a transformative device. As for the Iiwatch, hmmmm, maybe not so much. I'll let others beta this for apple. And the pricepoint seems high for emerging technology.
 
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Analog to Digital, and back again

What Apple has successfully done, hopefully anyway....the way things are looking...is take a digital world and make it feel analog. Via the crown of this watch.

I'm apathetic mostly when it comes to the Apple Watch....until I look at potential future application with the internet of things. Being able to control the temp of your house, stereo volume, refrig temp, light dimming....etc.....from your wrist as opposed to your phone, is super cool, especially being able to do so away from home. The digital crown is the key to this device feeling, well, just so damn cool.

So much for Dick Tracy. This thing, properly applied, can truly run your house.....if you have an "automated" house. Talking into it could be quite seriously just be a side effect of what it's capable of.

I'm probably not the first to say any of this, but I want it out there for posterity :)
 
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One person's lazy is another's convenience.

My first reaction was along the lines of the "wow, it's for rich lazy people". After all, it's no big deal for me to get my phone out of my pocket.

But I've realized now that this could be quite attractive especially for women; my wife doesn't normally wear clothes with pockets so she keeps her phone on a holster clip. It's actually pretty slow to get the phone out of the holster (especially since it has the case on it) and she is in a profession where she is getting messaged pretty constantly, sometimes when she needs to respond and sometimes only that she needs to know. So Apple Watch could really save her considerable hassle every day.

A similar argument could be made for people who keep their phones in purses/backpacks, etc.

Now, is it worth the price? That I have no idea and we'll make that call when the final product(s) are available. But I think it's likely that I will get her one as a birthday present after release (<$500).
 
For those saying it's not for me, I get that. Why buy something else to supplement your phone. Personally an iPad is redundant; I've had two and decided a Mac and a phone fits my needs enough.
A smart watch is useful to me - I like to try and take a 30 mins walk at lunch as my job is a desk one. My phone is in a coat pocket - I can look at the notifications coming in, spot one that needs a reply, so fish out the phone call someone and deal with it before getting back home. I did this yesterday (with my fenix watch). My minor gripe is I can't dismiss the notifications from the notification centre as you can with a pebble.
 
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