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This fanboy being tempted by the dark side
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As before a bit myopic or just refusing to think along the logical lines due to preference to the Apple way of thinking.
The rich buys the newest Android phones. There's a ready market for their used phones so they keep buying and keep selling every few months. The poorer people buy the rich's used phones and sell their old ones. And poorer still buys those. The end result is everyone ends up using an Android phone. This happens to a lesser extend with Apple phones as well. Thing is if you are locked into Apple's eco system you are going to be upgrading once a year or so vs once every 6 months to once every months as some people I know are prone to doing. And if you aren't made of money but still want a new phone with new features Android makers have more economical models for you as well.
This leads to market domination because who are you going to develop for the market where there are a few owners or the market with lots of owners?
It's not a model for failure. It's been the cell phone marketing model for a long time in Asia with success since the 90s.
As to the webpage I posted that was to point out there are cultural difference in how things are done and what's viewed as good. The neat manicured eco system of apple is nice but it might not fit into how things are done over the pond. Take the app approval process for example. It's great because people feel safer. However, it's a human driven process. What happens when the billions of potential software developers in China wants in? People over there are very open to using multiple applications on their computer for the same task. And the size of the market means that unlike in Western world where a few apps can dominate the market over there you can have many apps all co-existing. The app approval process is going to become a bigger and bigger burden if those people all pile in on Apple's eco system. It's going to be a big issue especially as the respect for rules are totally different from here. They will happily ignore and find way around apple's rules. And if they get banned? They resurface a few days later having opened a new developer account.
So how does that mean Android's model is better? Well it's simple really Android lets you use apps from other sources. Likely you'll see local firms setting up their own android app stores which will take the burden off from google for maintaining that customer base. It's likely those local stores will cater better to local tastes and needs. To distil it down it's the difference between 1 size fit all and a system that can adapt and evolve.
The basic situation is the dynamics of the market be it for phones or Apps are quite different in Asia. And that market is only just developing so you saying Apple is going to win no matter what is at best an overly simplistic view.
Btw care to name any of the patents they have actually use in the 4S vs the 4? Honestly what did they add? Oh wait they just had to disable push because of Motorola in Germany. Patents are pretty stupid point to make because: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_exercising_a_cat. Numbers of patents a company has is not a 1 to 1 correlation to actually having a useful innovation.
Here's another thought. Apple is 1 company there are how many companies out there doing android phones now? Who's going to end up throwing more stuff on the wall and seeing what sticks? Who's going to end up with more patents? It's a losing battle if they want to win by patents. They are going to get buried if they continue on that route.
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Do you still drive a ford? Or have you ever driven other cars? Do we still have cars that operates like the ford model T which was the first popular mass manufactured car in the world or do we drive cars that operates more like the later 1916 Cadillac type 53?
By your logic blackberry should be kicking apple's butt and apple should disappear before RIM.
Come on you can't be that thick? The game's just begun don't call your odds so soon.
I've said this before, but the list of things that the iPhone and iOS do better than a Nexus device & Ice Cream Sandwich have shrunk considerably, while the things that a Nexus/ICS can do better than the iPhone/iOS5 have grown significantly.
Full gmail integration, a superior keyboard (there is no contest here; ICS keyboard is leaps and bounds ahead of iOS'), more intuitive browser, voice navigation...
There's been no better time to give ICS a chance.
Full gmail integration, a superior keyboard (there is no contest here; ICS keyboard is leaps and bounds ahead of iOS'), more intuitive browser, voice navigation...
There's been no better time to give ICS a chance.
Well windows mobile came first buy a long shot, and that one didnt do so well in the long run.
Uhhhhhh, how did they prove it was a superior device? Thats just a subjective statement, your opinion is not proof my friend.
Stick to simple statements you can back up.
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To be fair I don't see huge amounts of schools handing out iPad either there is a few of them to be sure but its not widespread as you imply and its probably got a lot to do with apple leasing them to schools.....
Having used both iOS and Android they both have their pros and cons and are both great operating systems it comes down to user preference like everything else.
Fair enough but with the current level of education spending and the cuts that are being made across the country schools can barely afford to pay staff let alone get tablets, windows or apple. Which is unfortunate as I think that tablets can be very useful in the classroom and there is a lot of research that points to that as well. Students who use tablets or laptops generally perform higher on standardized tests and the technology allows the teacher to run the class more like a college lecture and provide individual help to those in need while the rest study or practice their skills. But I am sorry I digress sorry for the bit of thread jacking there my bad.
What's been proven? You are starting to make up things now. Saying apple is better and it's proven is like saying blue is a better color and it's proven.
Different devices fit people's lives better. I know a couple people that can't use an iPhone well cause the have very bad vision even corrected. Is it still proven to be better for them?
Android hasn't been trying to be like apple in years. I lol'd with apples half ass copy of androids notifications. Im sure most will claim that apple was using that prior to android.
I like my iPhone cause its fast and simple. Im not going to start making up reasons it's better or worse.
don't worry....you'll be back!First let me state I'm a die hard iPhone and Apple fan. I've had every gen iPhone and I'm (almost) certain to get the next. But...
I have to admit, I'm more and more interested in things like the LG Optimus 4X HD as I become more and more content hungry as a user.
Netflix and Hulu are my closest companions these days and more RAM, more speed, and more screen really appeal.
Here's hoping iPhone 5 responds soon and in a BIG way
How about this. You get whatever phone you want, with your own money that you worked for and earned. And who gives a flying rat's a$$ what someone else may or may not think about what you do with your own money.
Get what makes you happy and does what you want it to. It doesn't matter one iota what someone else thinks about what you've purchases.
If you're an Apple fanboy, so.
Just enjoy the life you have, do what you can to make it better for you and those around you.
The name on the phone you have is 100% irrelevant.
Rock on Jefferson.
Get what makes you happy and does what you want it to. It doesn't matter one iota what someone else thinks about what you've purchases.
If you're an Apple fanboy, so.
Just enjoy the life you have, do what you can to make it better for you and those around you.
The name on the phone you have is 100% irrelevant.
Rock on Jefferson.
I can't imagine carrying these stupid phones around.
Do all these guys carry man purses? Ain't no way those phones are going in my pocket.
Do all these guys carry man purses? Ain't no way those phones are going in my pocket.
LOL. I seriously doubt I'll be going anywhere. And again, it's not about wanting an Android, it's about hoping Apple moves the iPhone 5 a bit closer to some of these newer phones in terms of specs without sacrificing the goodness that is the iPhone. For me, that would be a 4" screen, 1G RAM, LTE and the 4S camera.
As someone that's had a crap ton of android phones and finally come over to iPhone, i can tell ya: if there's any one thing you don't like about the iPhone, chances are, there'll be twice as many things you might not like about any android phone. I'm leaving android for awhile just because i don't like where manufacturers are taking it and how little google is controlling things.
You hear "android is all about choice", yet where's a phone for me that has a smaller 3.5-4 inch screen that's high end and runs every app i want? None. Your choice is between this 4.3 inch android phone with bad battery life or the other with a huge screen and bad battery life. Screen size and raw processing power is how these companies have chosen to compete and it's getting sad. Nobody gives a damn about giving a good experience. Only stacking a spec list that looks impressive on paper and performs like crap.
My htc rezound should not have lagged as much as it did and it'll be seasons, not months, before i can expect to get ice cream sandwich on it. If you know what you're getting yourself into, android can be fun. But if you're new to it, there will be some things that piss you off to the point where you start asking why you switched.
The only phone i could recommend that'll stay up to date for at least a year is the galaxy nexus and the thing is huge. Not to mention the camera is one of the worst i've seen for awhile. It just really depends on what you want.
You hear "android is all about choice", yet where's a phone for me that has a smaller 3.5-4 inch screen that's high end and runs every app i want? None. Your choice is between this 4.3 inch android phone with bad battery life or the other with a huge screen and bad battery life. Screen size and raw processing power is how these companies have chosen to compete and it's getting sad. Nobody gives a damn about giving a good experience. Only stacking a spec list that looks impressive on paper and performs like crap.
My htc rezound should not have lagged as much as it did and it'll be seasons, not months, before i can expect to get ice cream sandwich on it. If you know what you're getting yourself into, android can be fun. But if you're new to it, there will be some things that piss you off to the point where you start asking why you switched.
The only phone i could recommend that'll stay up to date for at least a year is the galaxy nexus and the thing is huge. Not to mention the camera is one of the worst i've seen for awhile. It just really depends on what you want.
Larger screen, more RAM, etc. would be nice, but software wise, iOS needs some major updating/upgrading too. Just to name a few things things I hope to see: Navigation, better notifications (yes, still), more integration with Gmail, and above all, a better keyboard. Typing kills me. So many missed keys (as in, unregistered presses) and ridiculous autocorrections...
I'm also being tempted. I love my iPhone, but the prices here (internationally), have gone up dramaticly.First let me state I'm a die hard iPhone and Apple fan. I've had every gen iPhone and I'm (almost) certain to get the next. But...
I have to admit, I'm more and more interested in things like the LG Optimus 4X HD as I become more and more content hungry as a user.
Netflix and Hulu are my closest companions these days and more RAM, more speed, and more screen really appeal.
Here's hoping iPhone 5 responds soon and in a BIG way
To compare it, an iPhone 3GS 16 GB on contract used to cost $133.27. Nowadays, an iPhone 4 16 GB on contract costs $349.94 dollar.
To make things even worse, the prices of the data plans have gone up as well. An iPhone was in 2009 sooooo cheap compared to the prices of now.
I am a fan of both operating systems, so keep that in mind, becuase I disagree with both points made.
ICS does have full gmail integration. There is nothing there, for me, that I find myself missing when setting gmail up as an exchange account on iOS.
As to the keyboard, how is it leaps and bounds ahead? I honestly don't know. I find them to be equally good in an area where Android was sorely lacking, up until now. But that is it, I haven't seen the ICS keyboard surpass IOS in any way.
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There is quite a bit of flawed logic here, but if you truly believe this then I don't think anything anyone can say will have you see otherwise.
Go ahead and try it out.
I'm both a iPhone and Android user.
And I hate and love both of them equally.
I'm both a iPhone and Android user.
And I hate and love both of them equally.
Going over to Android Ice Cream Sandwich for me from iOS.
Simplicity and lack of customization leads me to change.
Simplicity and lack of customization leads me to change.