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Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by acidfast7, Feb 22, 2012.
*at least in the EU where it's actually regulated
Or you could choose not to take the chance that it's being regulated properly. Whatever floats your boat...
Or you could just stick to McNuggets.
Actually, the one on the right is much bigger, which means it's healthier!
(Just as an edit, this was a response to a question).
You're assuming that free-range is regulated properly and that welfare standards are upheld, is that always the case? If it worries you, why not stop supporting the industry entirely?
I'm not saying people should, just saying it makes the most sense to me.
Aren't you to a degree assuming they are not or will not be regulated properly?
Love me some McNuggets!!! Good stuff! LOL, The real question is what part of the chicken do McNuggets come from!??!?!
In a way. It has happened before, bound to happen again.
So you're suggesting that because you think it is bound to happen again, one should just say screw trying to do a good thing?
Sorry, I have got to start being more explicit.
Of course I believe that free range is better than factory farming. However I prefer not to support the meat industry at all, that way I know I'm not supporting animal cruelty due to meat production.
You can't trust the labeling is the problem when you shop at a supermarket. In the UK if the label says something is 'free range' or is 'sourced locally' or has 'such and such an ingredient' it could well not be any of those.
the UK is pretty lax, but the EU overall is not
The European Union regulates marketing standards for egg farming which specifies the following (cumulative) minimum conditions for the free-range method:
hens have continuous daytime access to open-air runs, except in the case of temporary restrictions imposed by veterinary authorities,
the open-air runs to which hens have access is mainly covered with vegetation and not used for other purposes except for orchards, woodland and livestock grazing if the latter is authorised by the competent authorities,
the open-air runs must at least satisfy the conditions specified in Article 4(1)(3)(b)(ii) of Directive 1999/74/EC whereby the maximum stocking density is not greater than 2500 hens per hectare of ground available to the hens or one hen per 4m2 at all times and the runs are not extending beyond a radius of 150 m from the nearest pophole of the building; an extension of up to 350 m from the nearest pophole of the building is permissible provided that a sufficient number of shelters and drinking troughs within the meaning of that provision are evenly distributed throughout the whole open-air run with at least four shelters per hectare.
Otherwise, egg farming in EU is classified into 4 categories: Organic (ecological), Free Range, Barn, and Cages.) The mandatory labelling on the egg shells attributes a number (which is the first digit on the label) to each of these categories: 0 for Organic, 1 for Free Range, 2 for Barn and 3 for Cages.
There are EU regulations about what free-range means for laying hens and broilers (meat chickens) as indicated above.
No way. The new chicken McBites are where it's at.
Actually, the real question is what part of the chicken don't they come from?!
Although I think McDonald's claims to use all breast meat now, which is good... certainly better than mechanically separate chicken.
Om nom nom Plofkip.
They are called "nuggets" for a reason...
Oh absolutely. I personally don't either. I just didn't like the logic that was happening.
And I figured being more explicit would land this into PRSI...
bio = organic; not free range. there's a difference
Plofkip looks much more tasty and delicious than vleeskip.
I don't see what all the fuss is about. We're talking about high-end health stores that are actually giving away range chicken...for free! If I don't have to pay for something, that's great. Especially when it's something from a healthy grocer.
I haven't tried any yet. But I might stop by and get my free range chicken on the way home from work tonight.
Wait. What do you mean "free range chicken" isn't free!?
Make sure that you also get natural grass fed beef as well.
But I don't want to use my range, I want to bake my chicken...
they have that as well, its a free range of chicken. Everything from fryers to broilers...
What makes you think they come from chicken, anyways?
Am I the only person who doesn't understand the craze about the organic & free range & humanely treated animals?
Yes, let's cut down more forests to give them more room, pamper them, and let them roam free in the most luxurious farm possible before we pluck their feathers, chop their heads off, toss them through the wood chipper to make nuggets, and/or force them to breed / lay eggs to sustain our business. We'll charge 2-3x more, and people will buy it because they'll think it's somehow better for them. Makes sense.
I have no moral difficulties nor desire to nitpick as to the pre-slaughter life of my meat. It all ends up looking like **** anyway.