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Two days with the other power supply, and the same symptoms.

All hardware passes ASD2.5.7

Anything else to try?
 
So, ASD reports no problems at all? Ok, have you tried to see if maybe some of the memory might be causing the problem? What happens when you boot the machine with the known "good" power supply? How far do you get in the boot process?


Two days with the other power supply, and the same symptoms.

All hardware passes ASD2.5.7

Anything else to try?
 
So, ASD reports no problems at all? Ok, have you tried to see if maybe some of the memory might be causing the problem? What happens when you boot the machine with the known "good" power supply? How far do you get in the boot process?

The ram passes all tests via ASD. Don't have a "known good" psu but the symptoms are present with both power supplies.

As far as the boot process, it is the no chime and harrier takeoff with the fans. When it finally boots, the indicator is off until the chime.
 
The ram passes all tests via ASD. Don't have a "known good" psu but the symptoms are present with both power supplies.

As far as the boot process, it is the no chime and harrier takeoff with the fans. When it finally boots, the indicator is off until the chime.

Possibly a logicboard? They run quite a bit so it may not be worth it. (Though I would try to get this working if I were you) do you have access to another power supply to test with?
 
Possibly a logicboard? They run quite a bit so it may not be worth it. (Though I would try to get this working if I were you) do you have access to another power supply to test with?

Nope just the two supplies I have. The one from the dp1.8 would work just fine with the hair dryer trick.

No other logic board to try. They are just too expensive.
 
Try www.applecomponents.com and see if they carry your logic board. I don't believe they are that expensive anymore. Usually, I am much better at troubleshooting other's systems when I am there to see it for my own self and can usually determine what the cause is. I am leaning more at this point to a logic board issue.

Also, like the MDD G4's, I believe there is a front panel module which controls turning on, off, and resetting the machine. But, from what you describe to me it sounds like a logic board issue and I am surprised that ASD did not pick up any issues with the logic board.


Two days with the other power supply, and the same symptoms.

All hardware passes ASD2.5.7

Anything else to try?

Nope just the two supplies I have. The one from the dp1.8 would work just fine with the hair dryer trick.

No other logic board to try. They are just too expensive.
 
Try www.applecomponents.com and see if they carry your logic board. I don't believe they are that expensive anymore. Usually, I am much better at troubleshooting other's systems when I am there to see it for my own self and can usually determine what the cause is. I am leaning more at this point to a logic board issue.

Also, like the MDD G4's, I believe there is a front panel module which controls turning on, off, and resetting the machine. But, from what you describe to me it sounds like a logic board issue and I am surprised that ASD did not pick up any issues with the logic board.

Logic boards range from $150 to $300 still
 
Yeah, I was surprised by those prices for such older boards. I guess Apple gets a royalty fee for each of those boards Applecomponents.com sells. Have you checked ebay? I know that there might be some replacement boards on there.

They have a ton of G5 Quad boards, so they probably have dual 1.8 based boards as well.


with the kind of money they want for a logic board I could either a) purchase a complete single-CPU 1.6 or 2) have a third of the cost of an early intel mac mini.
 
with the kind of money they want for a logic board I could either a) purchase a complete single-CPU 1.6 or 2) have a third of the cost of an early intel mac mini.

You can get a 1.8GHz single, 1.8GHz Dual, 2GHz Dual, etc. for $100-150. I've seen them on eBay. I saw a 2GHz dual go for $99 once, it was snatched up before I could buy it myself. :(
 
Wanna know whats really strange? The Mac Pro 1,1 and 2,1 boards are still fetching close to 800.00!? Now, thats enough to buy a whole new 1,1 Mac Pro. Its amazing PC boards are like close to nothing, but Apple's long discontinued logic boards for PowerPC are still fetching a price. Gotta be some kind of royalty Apple receives.

Ebay has better pricing. I have seen MDD G4 boards for as low as 45.00! Go figure.


with the kind of money they want for a logic board I could either a) purchase a complete single-CPU 1.6 or 2) have a third of the cost of an early intel mac mini.

Logic boards range from $150 to $300 still
 
Yeah, I was surprised by those prices for such older boards. I guess Apple gets a royalty fee for each of those boards Applecomponents.com sells. Have you checked ebay? I know that there might be some replacement boards on there.

They have a ton of G5 Quad boards, so they probably have dual 1.8 based boards as well.

The problem is I lost my job and have no money to spend on components for troubleshooting. Its a shame I couldn't use the same board in both units. that way if it didn't fix one, I could put it in the other. The DP1.8 is is WAY better condition anyway.
 
Aw, man.. dude.. I am in the same boat!!! However, I am still getting unemployment until the end of the year. I know. It sucks really bad not having employment. I feel for you.

Well, although sales and marketing aren't my strongest areas, I managed to get a second interview for an account management position.. I will test the waters accordingly as I don't want to mess up my unemployment.

But, dude.. I feel for you. I wish I could remotely log in and check out your system. I hope things get better for you.



The problem is I lost my job and have no money to spend on components for troubleshooting. Its a shame I couldn't use the same board in both units. that way if it didn't fix one, I could put it in the other. The DP1.8 is is WAY better condition anyway.
 
The problem is I lost my job and have no money to spend on components for troubleshooting. Its a shame I couldn't use the same board in both units. that way if it didn't fix one, I could put it in the other. The DP1.8 is is WAY better condition anyway.

If you send me your address and agree to pay the shipping I'll send you the DP 2.0 7,3 I have. We can work out how to pay me for it after you get back to work. I'll pull the drives and the optical and you can keep.
 
Aw, man.. dude.. I am in the same boat!!! However, I am still getting unemployment until the end of the year. I know. It sucks really bad not having employment. I feel for you.

I worked for Sam's Club for about 18 months. They fired me for exercising my first amendment rights off the clock. The state denied my unemployment. I am appealing the unemployment determination, but I don't get my day in court until 09AUG. Two months of no job and no unemployment. I thought RadioShack would hire me since I have four years with them, but apparently I am overqualified now.

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Wanna know whats really strange? The Mac Pro 1,1 and 2,1 boards are still fetching close to 800.00!? Now, thats enough to buy a whole new 1,1 Mac Pro.

I've seen Mac Pros on gainsaver for less than $600!
 
If you send me your address and agree to pay the shipping I'll send you the DP 2.0 7,3 I have. We can work out how to pay me for it after you get back to work. I'll pull the drives and the optical and you can keep.

What a good guy. Virtual handshake.
 
There is a massive amount of red flags with anything to do with G5's. I have been telling people this for ages and most never listen. I honestly wouldn't even take a free one.

As much of a PowerPC pusher as I am I would say go Intel if you really need more than a G4 can give you.

People who use G5 hardware do so at their own peril. The proof is all over the place for those that are interested in actually understanding things beyond a 5 is higher than a 4.
 
There is a massive amount of red flags with anything to do with G5's. I have been telling people this for ages and most never listen. I honestly wouldn't even take a free one.

As much of a PowerPC pusher as I am I would say go Intel if you really need more than a G4 can give you.

People who use G5 hardware do so at their own peril. The proof is all over the place for those that are interested in actually understanding things beyond a 5 is higher than a 4.

Here is the thing for me it's not right or wrong it just is. I had a 1,1 that I ended up making a 3,1 all the way to the logic board it was fun and quick but in the end just an old Mac. So I sold it..

I built a Hackintosh overclocked it did everything I ever wanted to do and did it seriously fast but in the end it wasn't a Mac so I sold it.

I now have a quad, it's quiet not particularly fast but it is interesting in the fact that it was made for only a year so it transcends old mac and turns into interesting Mac history.

If the LCS goes I'll just rebuild it or build a water loop parts are cheap enough now that even if it takes some parts with it the parts won't break the bank.
 
Dont know if its a similar fault.
Had on a 1.42 Ghz the PSU blown out and got a new in which worked 3 Weeks,and a replacement worked a week.
Now i put another used PSU in,and swapped the 1.42 Ghz CPU with a 1.25 Ghz CPU and works fine now since over 6 Month
 
So, does the 1.42 cpu work with the replacement power supply? To my knowledge, the wattage for the MDD G4, MDD G4 FW800, and MDD G4 2003 all had 360 watts which are also known as the "quieter" models. In the beginning of the MDD life cycle, 400 watt PSUs were present and they were loud.

I am just wondering as to why the 1.42 was downgraded to the 1.25?

Dont know if its a similar fault.
Had on a 1.42 Ghz the PSU blown out and got a new in which worked 3 Weeks,and a replacement worked a week.
Now i put another used PSU in,and swapped the 1.42 Ghz CPU with a 1.25 Ghz CPU and works fine now since over 6 Month
 
If you send me your address and agree to pay the shipping I'll send you the DP 2.0 7,3 I have. We can work out how to pay me for it after you get back to work. I'll pull the drives and the optical and you can keep.

your a good guy. big thumbs up!

I have two 1.8 processors if the OP needs em! Freebie.
 
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